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3blackrings

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I would like to ask some questions about myself. I do know a Psychologist or two, but they don't know about MBTI stuff. Too bad. I think it's pretty useful as a tool and enlightening as a person. The desire to be understood is eased by a better understanding of yourself. When I read what someone had written about the desire for being understood, I just knew.
I've felt really uncomfortable with people in the past, feeling "vibes" (Is there a German or French word in the vein of "schadenfreude?) and taking in everything I could about them with my senses. I've also been told I had the gift of discernment. That's not something I could have defined like that until I learned about being an INFJ. It's helped me understand myself better. Maybe it's my senses making me feel "vibes". Why? Anyone else experience any of the things I've talked about? Thanks!
 
First of all, welcome to the community. MBTI is a pretty cool tool, however, a lot of people tend to look at it as the answer to everything or a way to validate themselves/their traits and their psychological bias might ironically prevent them for finding the very thing it is that they're looking for: an objective assessment of themselves. At the end of the day, it's just a theory. Human experience is much more complex and often much too fussy to fit into neat little boxes.

Still, given all that, I do hope that you will find what you're looking for. I think you're going to have to be more specific about these 'vibes.' I'm not sure what you mean. Can you give us a few examples?
 
"Vibes" means feeling the emotions of others? It's difficult to define. I just don't know the right words.
 
3blackrings said:
I've felt really uncomfortable with people in the past, feeling "vibes" (Is there a German or French word in the vein of "schadenfreude?) .....
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schadenfreude is German

"scha·den·freu·de
[shahd-n-froi-duh]
- noun 1. satisfaction or pleasure felt at someone else's misfortune
Origin:
1890—95; < G, equiv. to Schaden harm + Freude joy
"
Is this what you mean to say?
 
3blackrings said:
"Vibes" means feeling the emotions of others? It's difficult to define. I just don't know the right words.
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Do you mean you understand and can sympathize with others because you have sense of what they are feeling and going through? I know INFJs are supposed to be keenly attuned but I don't think this is something special. Special meaning it makes us better, or capable of something that others aren't. We are predisposed toward certain personality traits which make us more inclined to pay attention. I'm not sure this is the same thing as psychic ability.
I now what most people are saying before they finish their sentences. I usually know what you are going to say before you open your mouth. But I also know how you are moving your body and how to make you fall because I'm paying attention.
 
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@Rferraris Thanks, but no. I knew it was German. I'm looking for single words that describe unusual emotions. I don't care what language it is, really. It's just that, for example, it takes a sentence to say "Schadenfreude" in English. Right? Or does anyone know one? Maybe there's a list somewhere of unusual or rare or hard to define emotions? I feel like I have a decent vocabulary. I'm not bad at finding stuff on the internet, either...

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Ok. To answer my own question. I found:

"An English expression with a similar meaning is 'Roman holiday', a metaphor taken from the poem "Childe Harold's Pilgrimage" by George Gordon, Lord Byron, where a gladiator in Ancient Rome expects to be "butcher'd to make a Roman holiday" while the audience would take pleasure from watching his suffering. The term suggests debauchery and disorder in addition to sadistic enjoyment."
 
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@Rferraris I'm not sure this is the same thing as psychic ability. [/QUOTE] You mean you can't read minds? lol I'm not suggesting anything special or Supernatural. I'm looking for words that define the feeling I have when....whatever. F#@k it.
 
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@Rferraris I'm not sure this is the same thing as psychic ability.
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You mean you can't read minds? lol I'm not suggesting anything special or Supernatural. I'm looking for words that define the feeling I have when....whatever. F#@k it.[/QUOTE]

I think I'm understanding better. Sorry I'm not more helpful. I guess I would have to understand what feeling it is you are trying to explain. For some reason uncanny comes to mind. But not sure. That is maybe a good word for what I feel sometimes or nuanced is also one I might use.

Good luck with your search.
 
Aristotle's List of Emotions

Anger: An impulse to revenge that shall be evident, and caused by an obvious,
unjustified slight with respect to the individual or his friends. Slights have three
species: contempt, spite, and insolence.

Mildness: The settling down and quieting of anger.

Love: Wishing for a person those things which you consider to be good–wishing them
for his sake and not your own--and tending so far as you can to affect them.

Enmity (hatred): Whereas anger is excited by offences that concern the individual,
enmity may arise without regard to the individual as such. Anger is directed
against the individual, hatred is directed against the class as well.

Fear: A pain or disturbance arising from a mental image of impending evil of a painful
or destructive sort.

Confidence: The opposite of fear. Confidence is the hope (anticipation), accompanied
by a mental image, of things conducive to safety as being near at hand, while
causes of fear seem to be either non-existent or far away.

Shame: A pain or disturbance regarding that class of evils, in the present, past, or future,
which we think will tend to our discredit.

Shamelessness: A certain contempt or indifference regarding the said evils.

Benevolence: The emotion toward disinterested kindness in doing or returning good to
another or to all others; the same term represents the kind action as an action; or
the kind thing done considered as a result.

Pity: A sense of pain at what we take to be an evil of a destructive or painful kind, which
befalls one who does not deserve it, which we think we ourselves or some one
allied to us might likewise suffer, and when this possibility seems near at hand.

Indignation: A pain at the sight of undeserved good fortune.

Envy: A disturbing pain directed at the good fortune of an equal. The pain is felt not
because one desires something, but because the other persons have it.

Emulation: A pain at what we take to be the presence, in the case. of persons who are by
nature like us, of goods that are desirable and are possible for us to attain--a pain
felt, not because the other persons have these goods, but because we do not have them as well.

Contempt: The antithesis of emulation (Persons who are in a position to emulate or to be
emulated must tend to feel contempt for thos
 
3blackrings said:
Aristotle's List of Emotions

Anger: An impulse to revenge that shall be evident, and caused by an obvious,
unjustified slight with respect to the individual or his friends. Slights have three
species: contempt, spite, and insolence.

Mildness: The settling down and quieting of anger.

Love: Wishing for a person those things which you consider to be good–wishing them
for his sake and not your own--and tending so far as you can to affect them.

Enmity (hatred): Whereas anger is excited by offences that concern the individual,
enmity may arise without regard to the individual as such. Anger is directed
against the individual, hatred is directed against the class as well.

Fear: A pain or disturbance arising from a mental image of impending evil of a painful
or destructive sort.

Confidence: The opposite of fear. Confidence is the hope (anticipation), accompanied
by a mental image, of things conducive to safety as being near at hand, while
causes of fear seem to be either non-existent or far away.

Shame: A pain or disturbance regarding that class of evils, in the present, past, or future,
which we think will tend to our discredit.

Shamelessness: A certain contempt or indifference regarding the said evils.

Benevolence: The emotion toward disinterested kindness in doing or returning good to
another or to all others; the same term represents the kind action as an action; or
the kind thing done considered as a result.

Pity: A sense of pain at what we take to be an evil of a destructive or painful kind, which
befalls one who does not deserve it, which we think we ourselves or some one
allied to us might likewise suffer, and when this possibility seems near at hand.

Indignation: A pain at the sight of undeserved good fortune.

Envy: A disturbing pain directed at the good fortune of an equal. The pain is felt not
because one desires something, but because the other persons have it.

Emulation: A pain at what we take to be the presence, in the case. of persons who are by
nature like us, of goods that are desirable and are possible for us to attain--a pain
felt, not because the other persons have these goods, but because we do not have them as well.

Contempt: The antithesis of emulation (Persons who are in a position to emulate or to be
emulated must tend to feel contempt for thos
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Now I totally get what you are asking.
I will have to think on it.
There seem to be a few that should be added to that list. But I guess they are also derivatives of each other, too.
 
Many psychologists actually ARE aware of MBTI. A good ethical psychologist will not use it in practice b/c the point of therapy is for the patient to come to realize his/her own problems. Psychologists are there to enable you to think outside the box in order for you to achieve a positive outcome for your life.

I brought up MBTI with my therapist and she quickly stated: "It is great in the sense that you are learning more about yourself, but I don't want you to allow MBTI to define you. It is only one theory in self actualization."
 
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