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[Skybladezero]

Here's my history: (You can read the Concise version below)

I'm an only child.
When I was a kid, I'm totally oblivious to my surroundings, people always call me absent minded and I somewhat grew up being bullied. I always love creating a new toy out of parts of old toys. I love legos, because I love creating something out of everything I see. One thing made me quite sure about that is, I made a robotic fly out of zoids parts and a water bottle. And I even customized my Spongebob figurine and turned it to a Gundam. I dismembered my gundam and Spongebob's arms and legs (creepy I know) and connected my the legs and arms of my gundam and connected it to my Spongebob toy. From this point, I knew myself that I've been a creative innovator. I always play video games and love adventure genre. I'm also an extroverted guy before. I love playing outside with my friends. But this ended when I'm in high school because my iron-fisted mom doesn't want me to grow up with friends. Since she knew that if she made me grew up with my friends, I'll not be close to her, hence failing her job as a parent (she's an ISFJ btw)

When I reached high school, it totally bothered me what people think about me. And I do not have a profound common sense and people called me idiot before. But I'm pretty good at computers. Logic didn't brought me there, but guts and hunches, I just click click click and intuitionize the whole thing how it works. And because of this, I always fail. Soon, failure gave up on me, and finally mastered how to reformat a pc, and customize the firmware of PSP. From this point on, people always come to me when they want to fix their pc's or modify their PSP console.

I had more friends, and always love being with them. But one thing I hated is if they knew they hate me for something. I know because I'm an empath when I was young, and still being bullied. But I do not fight, since I'm pretty scared being hit more. I'm a stupid martyr too before. And I know deep inside them, they are also being bullied too, so it's kind of ok to me being bullied because I somewhat help them.

But in the bright side, this is where my inner counselor rose. People always consult me for their problems and loved helping them. People I helped told me I'm pretty good at advising. That's because I can see right through them. I can see their needs, what they lack and stuff like that.

I developed common sense when I reached my college years. But it doesn't developed quickly. My classmates still bully me, but not worse than before. They are telling me that I'm an idiot because I don't have common sense. I doesn't matter to me, up until my father got angry and told me how stupid I am. Now that's another story, it hurt right through the bone and finally changed.

From this point, I finally developed my common sense. But still, I've been always oblivious of surroundings. One thing that inspired me to develop my thinking is Sherlock Holmes. I knew him since high school because of Case Closed Anime. But I was curious about why he regarded as the world's famous detective. And from that point on, I absorbed his methods and this help to cope with my oblivious senses and poor judgement.

Later, I tried to be like him, but my cousin noticed this, she told me that I was faking myself, and again it hurt me right through the bone. Because it's true, and I know copying someone is weak. So now, I'm in the quest of knowing what I am.

And from here on I became a rational brainiac. I love new ideas, always spontaneous and jumping from one idea across another. But I only question the ideas that interests me fully. From this moment my empathy evolve to a high level where I always discern what people think. And I always combine my hunches to my rational function, and then my hypothetical guess would be right. I can pierce through people, their motives, intentions, and what they will probably do next. From this point, I love learning about Psychology, Philosophy, and Economics and Behavioral Sciences because I love seeing a lot of perspectives. And it gives me a lot of insight about human mind and know what they think in a more rational way.

Now, when I percieve things, I always see the logic behind it. For example, when I hear a noise, I try to discern what kind of noise is it, then from that point I'll conclude what where and why it was sounded.

When I came across Hannibal tv series, I can really relate to Will Graham's method of deduction unlike of Sherlock's. Will graham can pierce the feelings of the psychopaths he came across. Unlike Sherlock who's a brainy type.

Now I'm quite organized, I love being messy so I organize back the mess I made. Hence, I'm always messy.

Now, about the MBTI:
I discovered it last year and I was first tested as INFP, then became INTP, then became ENTP. Jeezus, I don't know what to choose. So instead of taking tests, I want your opinion. Your honest, rational and helpful opinion. Thanks.

P.S I'm currently studying Jungian, and honestly, I don't understand it wholly. I know for sure that I'm an intuitive type, then borderline at P/J and I/E
But in terms of functions, I'm a dominant Ni/Ne user. Then my support is Fi/Fe, followed by Te/Ti, then Se/Si. (I calculated this because of my history)

Hence, am I ENFP or INFJ for you?

I love being with my friends, and uncomfortable meeting new people. The irony of it, I sometimes love being a comedian. It's where I can express myself. It pleases me when I see people laugh.

When I act, I act while I think, and it gives me a lot of errors.



I encountered enneagram btw, my tritype is 7w6 9w1 4w5. And I'm 20 yrs old.

TLDR, TO SUM IT ALL UP (Still, TLDR but much shorter):
-I first develop seeing the deepness of something. And I'm pretty absent minded when I was a kid.
-I became a good counselor at high school. And people always bully me, and I let them bully me because I knew I'm somewhat helping them to cope in their dark personalities. I know what caused them to act like that.
-I developed my logic and became pretty good at it (I think).
-I feel like an alien in this world, because I already accepted the truth that nobody will understand me.
-I got a knack on how people think and why they think like that. I do that passively all the time.
-I love answering life's deepest question, what makes us do this, what makes us do that? In short, I love Psychology and Philosophy
-I got a knack too on possibilities, I can see many possibilities at once. And I'm good at looking for alternatives.
-I enjoy being in the crowd, but I also enjoy solitary walks.
-I love programming because I could easily apply the concepts I understood, unlike math, which requires me to be more exact. But I love math too because it's challenging.
-I love solving puzzles, or solving a crime or whatever. Because it engages me to use my brain.
-I love living in the moment, however, I'm also clumsy all the time.
-I'm quite senstive to so much destructive criticism.
-Not so artsy, but I enjoy writing what I observed in real life (mostly about the irony of people's choices)
-I'm not into poetry, or painting. Not bohemian.

So what do you think?

 

[sassafras]

My personal guess is INFP.

You've got the classic Fi/Te dominant-inferior struggle happening all over your post. Remember: just because the type is described as a 'feeler' doesn't mean that its incapable of rational, penetrating thought or that you're supposed to like poetry and put flowers in your hair and sit around a campfire all kumbaya. Your judging functions work together, and Fi doesn't always manifest itself in a stereotypical manner. You'd be surprised how many INFPs find themselves in IT or in positions of management or other Te-esques playgrounds.

Barring that, I'd say ENFP, but given the things you've chosen to highlight in your post, I'd be hardpressed to say so.

Meanwhile, I don't get a Ni vibe. At all.

 

[Skybladezero]

Can you explain more elaborately why you think I'm an INFP? I don't really get the dominant/inferior struggle. Plus I don't feel Fi since I don't understand it.

 

[54tjsioU]

I think you're an ENTP/INTP. Just from grouping your outcomes on your test that'd be the more likely case. Aside from that you sound like you have Ni and a more prominent T function. I don't know Socionics very well but you don't sound like an F. You're sensitive sure, but Ts are sensitive too. They also seem to lack common sense in ways of socializing. Besides that you're a hell of a lot more handy and want to learn more about tech. I don't know any INFP that cared so much for tech unless it's their job -they want to know more about people. And though they do like using their hands I've never met one who cared to know every in and out about tech. You definitely got some Ni going. If you had Ne your explanation would have been more vibrant regardless of the language barrier. That's not an insult.

 

[Skybladezero]

I think you're an ENTP/INTP. Just from grouping your outcomes on your test that'd be the more likely case. Aside from that you sound like you have Ni and a more prominent T function. I don't know Socionics very well but you don't sound like an F. You're sensitive sure, but Ts are sensitive too. They also seem to lack common sense in ways of socializing. Besides that you're a hell of a lot more handy and want to learn more about tech. I don't know any INFP that cared so much for tech unless it's their job -they want to know more about people. And though they do like using their hands I've never met one who cared to know every in and out about tech. You definitely got some Ni going. If you had Ne your explanation would have been more vibrant regardless of the language barrier. That's not an insult.

I understand about the language barrier thing, actually, English is not my dominant language (I'm a Filipino, btw). Well, it is possible that there are INFP's who's into tech. I encountered some Scientist INFP in some forums and groups in Facebook so that's not a rule out in possibility.

 

[sassafras]

Can you explain more elaborately why you think I'm an INFP? I don't really get the dominant/inferior struggle. Plus I don't feel Fi since I don't understand it.

You have to understand that the cognitive functions are 'feelings' on one hand and 'only strict, strict logic' on the other hand. They refer to modes of thinking.

Feelers are holistic thinkers. They don't follow a rigid path of point a to point b, they remain open to nuance and complexity. The way you can think of thinking versus feeling is to imagine a piece of grid paper. The thinker will follow the longitudes and latitudes of the lines and consider the outline of each individual box and its general shape, whereas the feeler will consider everything within it and without the box, and only casually notice the lines.

Fi is more or less what Ni would look like if it were conscious and accessible. Fi picks up on patterns in the holistic sphere and takes time to puzzle and ponder about them aloud, how they apply to their experiences, where they've seen that pattern before in others, etc. Their Te helps them synthesize these thoughts consciously and aloud.

 

[Skybladezero]

You have to understand that the cognitive functions are 'feelings' on one hand and 'only strict, strict logic' on the other hand. They refer to modes of thinking.

Feelers are holistic thinkers. They don't follow a rigid path of point a to point b, they remain open to nuance and complexity. The way you can think of thinking versus feeling is to imagine a piece of grid paper. The thinker will follow the longitudes and latitudes of the lines and consider the outline of each individual box and its general shape, whereas the feeler will consider everything within it and without the box, and only casually notice the lines.

Fi is more or less what Ni would look like if it were conscious and accessible. Fi picks up on patterns in the holistic sphere and takes time to puzzle and ponder about them aloud, how they apply to their experiences, where they've seen that pattern before in others, etc. Their Te helps them synthesize these thoughts consciously and aloud.

Wow, that's a pretty new perspective to me. How can be Fi like that? It's like you've said Fi can look like a perceiving function, but you actually made it mean like "yes it's a judgement function, and how you know things from the unknown is judged by feelings."

I thought Fi just something about Personal values and moral judgements? Can you explain a bit more?

 

[sassafras]

Wow, that's a pretty new perspective to me. How can be Fi like that? It's like you've said Fi can look like a perceiving function, but you actually made it mean like "yes it's a judgement function, and how you know things from the unknown is judged by feelings."

I thought Fi just something about Personal values and moral judgements? Can you explain a bit more?

Fi is a judging function. As are Ti, Te, and Fe. They are your conscious functions. Because they are conscious, they actively make judgments about the world in order to navigate it. But you also have unconscious functions that take more of a back seat to support the conscious functions (a nice way to think of it is that they observe in the background, hence they're perceiving). Notice you alternate between extroverted and introverted functions and conscious and unconscious functions in your stack. They all work together to shape your perceptions, although some of the functions are stronger than others and tend to lend more of a voice.

INFP's have Fi first in their stack, so they lead with a judging function. That is, they come into the world with their own preconceptions and expectations of it. Because Fi is also a holistic function, however, it judges through a holistic, internal lens wherein the person reacts to the nuances in his or her emotional make up and sensation. It's not necessarily weepy, bursting emotions so much as a heightened sensitivity and consideration of additional patterns and options that are supported by the INFP's Ne and Te.

When those are suppressed, however, you either get a really close-minded individual or a complete scatterbrain.