What exactly is "Anonymous"

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Aside from some buttholes who use the Guy Fawkes mask and shitty music in their videos, is Anonymous real? I keep seeing this shit pop up, its kind of interesting. I wonder if they have a more active/armed division :P
 
Billy said:
Aside from some buttholes who use the Guy Fawkes mask and shitty music in their videos, is Anonymous real? I keep seeing this shit pop up, its kind of interesting. I wonder if they have a more active/armed division :P
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They're hackers

They have fed information in the past to wikileaks who have then published it for example the Stratfor documents

Another group is LulzSec but they got busted. They used to meet on a particular forum and would coordinate their actions through it
 
muir said:
They're hackers

They have fed information in the past to wikileaks who have then published it for example the Stratfor documents

Another group is LulzSec but they got busted. They used to meet on a particular forum and would coordinate their actions through it
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That is a grandiose oversimplification of what Anonymous is, and it's false to boot.

Anonymous is basically an anarchist affinity group. It started on 4chan many years ago, we were just a bunch of silly kids who liked to prank people and such. If you played Habbo Hotel many years ago, you might've been stopped from moving around by a walking-swastika. That was kind of our 'thing' - being hilarious (and offensive) pranksters.

Later on, our focus kind of changed to attacking Scientology for their war on the internet. That resulted in Project Chanology. It was basically a bunch of nerds (mostly non-hacker, although there are certainly a few of those) trying to take on a cult. Nothing happened, naturally, but we did at least bring light to their bad practices.

Jump a good 5 years (damn, has it really been that long?) and Anonymous is still a bunch of 4chan pranksters, but really, much more than that. I kinda thought Anon would become a major political force after the Scientology thing, and it did.

For the record: most so-called "hackers" in Anon are script kiddies using things like the Low Orbit Ion Cannon that don't require any real hacking whatsoever.

It's come a long way since the beginning, the glory days, but it's still at base what it always was: a bunch of internet nerds from 4chan/420chan/whatever other chans… there is no "armed" division, there's no real divisions at all.

Have you heard of a hive mind? Basically, Anonymous actions are done as a collective. There are no internal factions (although there are groups which originated from Anon, i.e. LulzSec), no leaders, and etc.

Also, Anonymous is responsible for every meme that has ever hit the internet ever. (Well, not really, but it's close enough.)
 
unpersons said:
That is a grandiose oversimplification of what Anonymous is, and it's false to boot.

Anonymous is basically an anarchist affinity group. It started on 4chan many years ago, we were just a bunch of silly kids who liked to prank people and such. If you played Habbo Hotel many years ago, you might've been stopped from moving around by a walking-swastika. That was kind of our 'thing' - being hilarious (and offensive) pranksters.

Later on, our focus kind of changed to attacking Scientology for their war on the internet. That resulted in Project Chanology. It was basically a bunch of nerds (mostly non-hacker, although there are certainly a few of those) trying to take on a cult. Nothing happened, naturally, but we did at least bring light to their bad practices.

Jump a good 5 years (damn, has it really been that long?) and Anonymous is still a bunch of 4chan pranksters, but really, much more than that. I kinda thought Anon would become a major political force after the Scientology thing, and it did.

For the record: most so-called "hackers" in Anon are script kiddies using things like the Low Orbit Ion Cannon that don't require any real hacking whatsoever.

It's come a long way since the beginning, the glory days, but it's still at base what it always was: a bunch of internet nerds from 4chan/420chan/whatever other chans… there is no "armed" division, there's no real divisions at all.

Have you heard of a hive mind? Basically, Anonymous actions are done as a collective. There are no internal factions (although there are groups which originated from Anon, i.e. LulzSec), no leaders, and etc.

Also, Anonymous is responsible for every meme that has ever hit the internet ever. (Well, not really, but it's close enough.)
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Anonymous hack into systems such as Stratfor's therefore they are engaged in hacking activities and can therefore justifiably be called 'hackers' so what i'm saying is not 'false'

Neither is the stratfor job a small deal so calling them hackers is not 'grandiose'
 
They are largely free speech hacktivists. Most of them are not proper hackers, though.

Armed division? Don't be paranoid.
 
Meer said:
They are largely free speech hacktivists. Most of them are not proper hackers, though.

Armed division? Don't be paranoid.
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I dont want to know if they have an armed division because I am scared, but rather because I would want to join.
 
Anonymous can be anyone that uses the internet to whistle blow, expose information, prank, harass, spread information... Usually it's nerds from the 4chan, like the other posts above stated, but anyone can be in it - it's not an organized collective, but more an anarchists... um.. title?
 
muir said:
Anonymous hack into systems such as Stratfor's therefore they are engaged in hacking activities and can therefore justifiably be called 'hackers' so what i'm saying is not 'false'

Neither is the stratfor job a small deal so calling them hackers is not 'grandiose'
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There are hackers in the numbers of Anon, that is without dispute - they are there.

Anonymous isn't like a group you can sign up for. It's an affinity group. When they say "we are legion", it's alluding to the fact that so many of us are there. Presumably the number is in the low millions, all around. The hacktivists are a VERY small part, though. Most of us just organize, throw support behind causes, and put in our thoughts on things where possible.

For instance! I've been with Anonymous since the concept came about. I watched them rise out of a few forums to become a major social force basically overnight. I haven't attacked anyone, nor marched for causes, but I've stayed mostly up-to-date on Anonymous happenings and spread the word. Really, it kind of sucks to say these things, because there's that whole... 'we're anonymous for a reason'... thing... but I'm just saying, it's not some worldwide shadow government. It's average people! Activists, hacktivists, pranksters, the intelligentsia, socialists, anarchists, libertarians, comedians, actors and actresses, general artists...

If you're expecting Anonymous to be "organized", you will be sorely disappointed. There are subsets that are organized (the aforementioned LulzSec), but the organization isn't really an organization... it's just... a bunch of people operating on the same basic spectrums, loosely affiliated through whatever means lead them around. The closest you're going to come to "finding" Anonymous is probably just mingling with people on 4chan.

...and that can be a shitty thing, because 4chan went really far downhill after pranks by Anon were made public news...

It's grandiose to call Anonymous hackers because out of the millions attached, VERY few are hackers. VERY VERY VERY few.
 
unpersons said:
There are hackers in the numbers of Anon, that is without dispute - they are there.

Anonymous isn't like a group you can sign up for. It's an affinity group. When they say "we are legion", it's alluding to the fact that so many of us are there. Presumably the number is in the low millions, all around. The hacktivists are a VERY small part, though. Most of us just organize, throw support behind causes, and put in our thoughts on things where possible.

For instance! I've been with Anonymous since the concept came about. I watched them rise out of a few forums to become a major social force basically overnight. I haven't attacked anyone, nor marched for causes, but I've stayed mostly up-to-date on Anonymous happenings and spread the word. Really, it kind of sucks to say these things, because there's that whole... 'we're anonymous for a reason'... thing... but I'm just saying, it's not some worldwide shadow government. It's average people! Activists, hacktivists, pranksters, the intelligentsia, socialists, anarchists, libertarians, comedians, actors and actresses, general artists...

If you're expecting Anonymous to be "organized", you will be sorely disappointed. There are subsets that are organized (the aforementioned LulzSec), but the organization isn't really an organization... it's just... a bunch of people operating on the same basic spectrums, loosely affiliated through whatever means lead them around. The closest you're going to come to "finding" Anonymous is probably just mingling with people on 4chan.

...and that can be a shitty thing, because 4chan went really far downhill after pranks by Anon were made public news...

It's grandiose to call Anonymous hackers because out of the millions attached, VERY few are hackers. VERY VERY VERY few.
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I'm fully aware of what anonymous is. Their activities are mentioned often in the media that i follow

'Hacking' as a term can be interpreted widely

For example i often talk about things that people might not have heard about before. I offer a perspective outside the one offered by the mainstream media. This makes me a reality hacker...i hack into peoples reality

Anonymous are reality hackers

Further to that, far from the 'pranksters' you portray them as i would fully expect government involvment at some level in their activities as anything potent is infiltrated, orchestrated or co-opted eg Lulzec
 
Anonymous is essentially anyone who wishes to call themselves "Anonymous".

It could be considered a hacktivist group, but as an entity they don't all agree with what they stand for, and nor are the majority of them hackers.
 
unpersons said:
There are hackers in the numbers of Anon, that is without dispute - they are there.

Anonymous isn't like a group you can sign up for. It's an affinity group. When they say "we are legion", it's alluding to the fact that so many of us are there. Presumably the number is in the low millions, all around. The hacktivists are a VERY small part, though. Most of us just organize, throw support behind causes, and put in our thoughts on things where possible.

For instance! I've been with Anonymous since the concept came about. I watched them rise out of a few forums to become a major social force basically overnight. I haven't attacked anyone, nor marched for causes, but I've stayed mostly up-to-date on Anonymous happenings and spread the word. Really, it kind of sucks to say these things, because there's that whole... 'we're anonymous for a reason'... thing... but I'm just saying, it's not some worldwide shadow government. It's average people! Activists, hacktivists, pranksters, the intelligentsia, socialists, anarchists, libertarians, comedians, actors and actresses, general artists...

If you're expecting Anonymous to be "organized", you will be sorely disappointed. There are subsets that are organized (the aforementioned LulzSec), but the organization isn't really an organization... it's just... a bunch of people operating on the same basic spectrums, loosely affiliated through whatever means lead them around. The closest you're going to come to "finding" Anonymous is probably just mingling with people on 4chan.

...and that can be a shitty thing, because 4chan went really far downhill after pranks by Anon were made public news...

It's grandiose to call Anonymous hackers because out of the millions attached, VERY few are hackers. VERY VERY VERY few.
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And now you are not Anonymous!
 
/b/ given purpose
 
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