Darc
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Well one of the themes of Final Fantasy 7 is character development itself, but he whole thing with Cloud Strife just leaves me scratching my head because it's kind of like this big turgid thing, and they spend so much time focusing on his personal shortcomings, but then at the end I feel like there's never a specific message or point to his perceived shortcomings and the focus on them.
Sure, Cloud has lots of identity issues, it fits with the theme well, but another aspect that's always focused on is that he has a lot of personal faults and shortcomings. One of the main aspects of Cloud is that he very obviously is really insecure, and has serious identity problems even in the beginning (before the experiments performed on him) and as well, he struggles the whole time with not being good enough, being "weak" (on the inside) and as well he is deemed as a failure when he is experimented on (apparently the experiments on him didn't work sufficiently and he couldn't handle the Mako) in the story, if a person is bathed and infused with Mako energy, it can make them stronger but only if they can psychologically handle the process, which he cannot. Then before that he has big dreams of joining Soldier and becoming a 1st class famous solider/warrior, which he as well fails at and only makes it as an infantry men, which again he also is not very good at. In fact, he's not really cut out for Soldier at all (which, honestly isn't that bad of a thing, it's why he's a "good" guy I think) and then after he is bathed with Mako and infused with Jenova cells, it allows Sephiroth/Jenova to telepathically mind control and manipulate him a bit, which he as well struggles with throughout the entire story. He also imagines that fake past in his head where he is the person he wishes he was and mistakes himself for that. At the end, he overcomes Sephiroth's mind control and banishes him from his subconscious altogether.
Is he just a classic case of an underdog or something? kind of like Charlie Brown with spiky hair and super powers?
Is about self and personhood and finding and becoming your true self, and the path that towards that? finding one's true identity perhaps?
Sure, Cloud has lots of identity issues, it fits with the theme well, but another aspect that's always focused on is that he has a lot of personal faults and shortcomings. One of the main aspects of Cloud is that he very obviously is really insecure, and has serious identity problems even in the beginning (before the experiments performed on him) and as well, he struggles the whole time with not being good enough, being "weak" (on the inside) and as well he is deemed as a failure when he is experimented on (apparently the experiments on him didn't work sufficiently and he couldn't handle the Mako) in the story, if a person is bathed and infused with Mako energy, it can make them stronger but only if they can psychologically handle the process, which he cannot. Then before that he has big dreams of joining Soldier and becoming a 1st class famous solider/warrior, which he as well fails at and only makes it as an infantry men, which again he also is not very good at. In fact, he's not really cut out for Soldier at all (which, honestly isn't that bad of a thing, it's why he's a "good" guy I think) and then after he is bathed with Mako and infused with Jenova cells, it allows Sephiroth/Jenova to telepathically mind control and manipulate him a bit, which he as well struggles with throughout the entire story. He also imagines that fake past in his head where he is the person he wishes he was and mistakes himself for that. At the end, he overcomes Sephiroth's mind control and banishes him from his subconscious altogether.
Is he just a classic case of an underdog or something? kind of like Charlie Brown with spiky hair and super powers?
Is about self and personhood and finding and becoming your true self, and the path that towards that? finding one's true identity perhaps?