And interesting trend I have noticed is people interested in such things have a desire to tell others, but are also very fearful/embaressed of doing so. As such there is an inner tension with such things then which is quite frustertating. Would explain your thread, I have done similar in the past believe it or not. Obviously we would be oriented on different focuses, but the concepts might be the same which would be quite intreuging as I would have not expected it. But some how it doesn't surprise me? not sure how to word it.