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Illuminati Assassins

Posted on 09/14/2014 | 5 Comments


Illuminati
mass mind control is predicated on a steady numbing delivery of 6th-grade level non-news to the masses, combined with the occasional 911/Kennedy Assassination fear-inducing shock, designed to cement obedience and allegiance to their resource monopoly.

The elite must constantly manufacture fake bad guys to divert criticism from their hegemonic global banking cartel. Not coincidentally, the bad guys always possess a resource which the bankers covet. Western intelligence agencies serve as spearhead in designing and implementing these psyops. Since oil greases the Illuminati’s City of London money shuffle, the Middle East is naturally home to a plethora of “bad guys”.

(Excerpted from Chapter 3: The House of Saud & JP Morgan: Big Oil & Their Bankers…)

In the 1920’s a young Egyptian named Hassan Al-Banna revived the Muslim Brotherhood, which had its origins in the same Grand Lodge of Cairo that also spawned Cabala, Freemasonry, Knights Templar and their Illuminati board of directors. Al-Banna was an admirer of Adolf Hitler. During the 1930s his group became a secret arm of Nazi Intelligence. During WWII the Palestine-based Grand Mufti went to Germany as a Muslim Brotherhood representative to recruit an international SS division of Arab Nazis. Based in Croatia, the group was known as the Handzar Muslim Division.

After the war, British Intelligence hired these fugitives and sent them to Egypt with help from the French. There they were sold to the CIA, who used them to infiltrate and attack a burgeoning left-wing Arab nationalist movement led by Egyptian President Gamel Nasser. Nasser nationalized the Suez Canal, brought in Soviet advisors and banned the Muslim Brotherhood from Egypt. The leader of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood Sayed Kuttub received payments from Saudi King Faisal to undermine Nasser.
During the 1950s the CIA evacuated Brotherhood leaders to Saudi Arabia, where they opened madrasses that taught a combination of Nazism and Wahhabism. Prominent instructor Dr. Abdullah Azzam taught Osama bin Laden. Fascistic Wahhabism was encouraged by Britain’s M-16, Israeli Mossad and the CIA, though it was condemned as heresy by Muslim countries more than sixty times. It is only practiced in Saudi Arabia and by the Afghan Taliban. Brotherhood leader Sayed Kuttub stated that during the 1960s, “America made Islam”.

CIA Director Allen Dulles had been a lawyer for Nazi combine I. G. Farben and headed the CIA-predecessor Office of Strategic Services (OSS) during WWII. After the war Dulles was OSS Station Chief in Berne, Switzerland, where he helped Swiss Nazi Francois Genoud transfer Hitler and Goebel trusts into Swiss bank accounts. In 1952 Dulles founded Banque Commerciale Arabe in Lausanne, Switzerland. The bank represented a pact between the CIA and the Muslim Brotherhood-Benoist-Mechin, which is comprised of Saudi royal family members.

Part of this Faustian bargain involved the House of Saud providing information to US intelligence on how to create mind-controlled assassins. The Muslim Brotherhood claims to have first perfected this technique during the 11th century Crusades when it launched a brutal parallel secret society known as the Assassins, who employed mind-controlled “lone gunmen” to carry out political assassinations of Muslim Saracen nationalists. The Muslim Brotherhood Assassins worked in concert with Knights Templar invaders in their attacks on progressive Arabs.

The same year Allen Dulles- 33rd Degree Freemason, Knight Templar, CFR-founding member and Rockefeller cousin- formed his alliance with the House of Saud, the CIA launched its MK-ULTRA mind control program using LSD produced by the Warburg banking dynasty’s Swiss Sandoz Laboratories. Dulles’ OSS assistant in Berne was James Warburg. With Sydney Gottleib at the wheel, MK-ULTRA sought to create a “Manchurian candidate”, a mind-controlled assassin to be utilized for CIA black operations. The city of Lausanne, where Dulles cut his deal, also housed a group known as Nazi International, led by Nazi intelligence officer Otto Skorzeny.

The Assassins took their name from the Arabic word hashshasin, meaning “hashish smoker”. Another Arabic word, assasseen, translates “guardians of the secrets”. The group was founded in 1094 by Hasan bin Sabah, who shares his surname with the crooked ruling family of Kuwait who themselves descend from the Hashemite clan. Hasan was schooled in the secrets of the Hebrew Cabala and studied at the Grand Lodge of Cairo, which also spawned the Afghan Illuminated Ones- the Roshaniya- who terrorized that country under the leadership of Bayezid Ansari in the 16th century.

The Assassins emerged from the Ismaili Muslim sect, which claims descendence from the Hebrew patriarch Abraham and his surrogate wife Hagar. The Ismailis formed “societies of wisdom” which morphed into the Grand Lodge of Cairo. The Druses that came to run the lodge claimed to be both Christians and Muslims and their protocol mirrored that of Grand Orient Freemasonry. The Cairo Lodge turned out the fanatics who aided the Knights Templar in their Crusade battles against Saracen Muslim nationalists.

bin Sabah, who called himself the Grand Master, formed his own Ismaili sect known as the Assassins. The group embraced the dogma that the end justifies the means, a belief they shared with their Masonic brethren and a trademark of modern-day religious and neo-Darwinian fundamentalists worldwide.

Masonic historian Albert Mackey states of the Assassins, “…connections to the (Knights) Templars, as historically proved, may have had some influence over that Order in molding, or at least in suggesting, some of its esoteric dogmas and ceremonies…The Templars entered at various times into amicable arrangements and treaty stipulations with the Assassins.”

According to Marco Polo, bin Sabah took over a valley where he built palaces surrounded by lush gardens and frequented by beautiful women. Young visitors would be lured in and drugged, believing they had found paradise. bin Sabah would then promise them a return to paradise if they would carry out political assassinations for him. bin Sabah’s promise is held out to this day to thousands of young Islamist suicide martyrs, whose missions are bankrolled by the House of Saud.

Islamic fundamentalism began its modern day meteoric rise in British administered India and found a permanent home in Pakistan. That country came into being in 1947 in a British attempt to divide Muslims from their Hindu Indian counterparts. Pakistani Islamism was carried forth by Mawdudi and a succession of military juntas backed by the Illuminati. Its spiritual epicenter is the Karachi-based Agha Khan Foundation- a subsidiary of the House of Windsor’s Crown Agency tentacle.

The majority of Western Arab allies embrace Islamic fundamentalism, which is quite congruent with global monopoly capitalism, since both are based on a return to rule by feudalistic monarchy. Most of the West’s Arab enemies embrace secular socialism, which aims to stop the exploitation of oil resources by the Four Horsemen and the Eight Families international banker owners. The great Arab leaders including the Egyptian Nasser, the Algerian Boumedienne, the Libyan Qaddafi, the Syrian Assad and the Iraqi al-Bakr all support(ed) a secular socialism (though Qaddafi to be precise is an anarcho-syndicalist), which poses a very real threat to the Illuminati elite.

Within years of the 1979 Iranian Revolution, CIA and MI6 were passing targeting information to the Ayatollah aimed at Iranian leftist groups like the Tudeh Party, the National Front and the People’s Mujahadeen. These nationalist parties had backed 1954 CIA/BP coup victim Mohammed Mossadegh and later spearheaded the Iranian Revolution through their Committee of 60 oilfield strikes in Khuzistan Province.

The mullahs cut oil for arms deals with Israel and unleashed a reign of terror, assassinating over 4,000 Tudeh Party leaders, while torturing and imprisoning 10,000 more. In 1989 many of those imprisoned were sentenced to death. Khomeini then banned the parties terming them “Marxist satanic elements”, something even the Shah hadn’t done. The US was using Islamic extremists to exterminate the Iranian left. They had done the exact same thing when they installed Saddam Hussein in Iraq to terrorize the Iraqi Communist Party.

In 1978 the Mossad allowed the fundamentalist Hamas to become the only Palestinian group registered in Israel. The Israelis found the Islamist Hamas a convenient bludgeon that they could deploy against Yasser Arafat- whose Palestinian Authority had emerged from Fatah and the PLO, both of which put forth a secular left of center political agenda based on Arab unity and nationalism.

Hamas regularly receives funds from the Saudis without intervention by the Israelis, while money bound for the PLO is routinely seized by Israeli authorities. After the Gulf War the House of Saud cut funding to the PLO to punish Arafat for his opposition to the US bombing of Iraq, while the Saudis continued to fund Hamas.

Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood. Its suicide bombers are modern-day Assassins, whose actions serve as a pretext for further Israeli aggression against Palestinians. Former Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon played a critical role in the founding of Hamas in 1988, when his Likud Party doled out 800 licenses to Islamists in the occupied Palestinian territories of Gaza and the West Bank.

Sharon- the Butcher of Shatila- served as ideological guru of both the Gush Emunim and Kach Movement/JDL Jewish underground right-wing terror networks during his 1977-1992 tenure in Israeli Likud governments. He was central to the Landscam gang, which made millions recruiting Jews from Manhattan and Moscow to buy homes built on illegal settlements on Palestinian lands during the 1980’s and 1990’s.

Sharon’s Landscam partners included Rupert Murdoch, Sir David Ormsby-Gore, Prince Johannes von Thurn and Taxis, Sir Edmund Peck and World Jewish Congress President Edgar Bronfmann- owner of Conoco Phillips. Also attending the initial 1982 planning sessions for this land grab at Sharon’s Negev ranch were Henry Kissinger, M-16 Middle East specialist Nicholas Elliot and Permindex Kennedy Assassination paymaster Louis Mortimer Bloomfield.

According to former Mossad case officer Victor Ostravsky, Mossad armed the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood with mujahadeen arms from Afghanistan in 1986 and gave the Islamic Jihad terrorists a target list. That same year, Mossad armed Islamists in Jordan to destabilize that nation as part of their “Jordan is Palestine” plan to push all Palestinians into Jordan, while seizing the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

In October 1991, angered at the Bush Administration’s willingness to mediate peace talks in Madrid between Israel and the Palestinians, Ostravsky says Mossad used three Hamas extremists in an attempt to assassinate Bush in Madrid. When their plan failed these Palestinians, like many before them, were shipped off to Nes Ziyyona- an Israeli nuclear, biological and chemical weapons testing facility where experiments are routinely conducted on Palestinian militants. A similar Mossad facility exists, disguised as a hospital, in Soweto, South Africa, where poor blacks are subject to experimentation.

The US uses Islamic extremists to achieve its geopolitical goals on a regular basis. In 1982 the socialist government in Syria put down a revolt led by Islamic militants. One of the revolt’s leaders was Abdallah Azzam, who later supervised the CIA training of mujahadeen in Peshawar, Pakistan. Shiek Hassan Turabi, leader of the Sudanese military government, is backed by the leader of that country’s Muslim Brotherhood offshoot known as the Islamic National Front. Until the media began reporting that Osama bin Laden was using Sudan as his mid-1990’s al Qaeda base, the US had close ties to the Sudanese fanatics. Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman, the cleric who the CIA brought to the US to recruit Islamic fighters for its dismemberment of Yugoslavia, got his visa at the US consulate in Khartoum.

In the US, the Muslim Brotherhood coalesces around Louis Farrakhan and his Nation of Islam. On February 21, 1965 Nation of Islam operatives gunned down black leader Malcolm X, who had fallen out with the Islamists after a journey to Mecca altered his worldview. Prior to the trip, Malcolm X spoke in the divisive manner of Farrakhan, preaching black power against the “white devils”. Upon his return he ditched his racial analysis and focused on class, reaching out, as Dr. Martin Luther King had begun to do when he was assassinated, to labor unions and impoverished whites.

John Mohamed, the sniper who claimed thirteen victims in the Washington, DC area in October 2002, was a recent convert to the Nation of Islam, whose donors have included Texas billionaire H. L. Hunt. Hunt met with Jack Ruby the day before the JFK hit, then disappeared to Mexico for a month. Louis Farrakhan came up missing in similar fashion after the Malcolm X hit.
Nation of Islam leader Elijah Muhammad was a self-proclaimed messenger of Nation of Islam founder Master Fard. Fard instructed Muhammad to study the origins of Islam, Freemasonry and the Cabala. Fard mimics the Knights Templar propaganda that Jesus never died on the cross. While the Priory of Sion version states that Jesus went to France and started the sangreal Merovingan bloodline,

Fard claims Jesus landed in Pakistan, global epicenter of Islamism where spiritual god/king of the Muslim Brotherhood Agha Khan resided. It also happenned to be the place where modern-day Assassin, MI6 asset and favorite Illuminati bad guy Osama bin Laden went into “hiding”.

Dean Henderson
is the author of five books: Big Oil & Their Bankers in the Persian Gulf: Four Horsemen, Eight Families & Their Global Intelligence, Narcotics & Terror Network, The Grateful Unrich: Revolution in 50 Countries,Das Kartell der Federal Reserve, Stickin’ it to the Matrix & The Federal Reserve Cartel. You can subscribe free to his weekly Left Hook column @www.hendersonlefthook.wordpress.com
 
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So true...you don't war for peace you peace for peace!

I'm seeing people getting tricked into war again with this whole ISIS thing

I hear people saying things like: ''ISIS need to be stopped, they are a danger to the world'' and so on

But these people don't realise that the west funded, armed and trained ISIS in the first place except back then the western media was calling them 'syrian rebels' or if they were being particularly disingenuous: 'moderate syrian rebels!'

Those 'syrian rebels' we trained in jordan and armed and funded became ISIS

Now we are using the monster we created as an excuse to cause more war and destabilisation in the middle east. It seems the aim is to shatter Iraq into several pieces for example with pieces going to the kurds, the shias and the sunnis, whislt also stoking anger between factions to keep them all divided and weak and exploitable

The media frames peoples thinking into a box. It doesn't ask the public if they think we should go to war...instead it says we must stop ISIS...that's the box

Then all thinking goes on within that box. So the thinking then becomes about how to fight ISIS eg do we do airstrikes, do we arm the kurds more, do we put troops pn the ground etc etc

But how many public now think outside the box and ask if we should even be waging war in the first place?

This is very interesting from the point of view of understanding history because now it is possible to see how our ancestors were dragged into the previous 2 world wars

For example now we have the media showing videos of staged and faked beheadings of CIA/Mossad/MI6 agents to try and anger and upset the public so that they will support more war

But before world war 1 for example the media started demonising the germans and saying they were committing atrocities and were pinning babies to church doors and all the rest

It's the same game played out again with a new bunch of useful idiots to be the suckers

Which generation will be the one to see through the game and say 'NO MORE WAR!'? I still have hopes for our generation
 
Yep…we are not a peaceful country…by no means.

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This is a good one...
 
muir said:
So true...you don't war for peace you peace for peace!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeasement

muir said:
It seems the aim is to shatter Iraq into several pieces for example with pieces going to the kurds, the shias and the sunnis, whislt also stoking anger between factions to keep them all divided and weak and exploitable

Sounds similar to what Russia is doing to Ukraine.
But, of course, it's just a response to a NATO aggression.
 

You can't appease a group you create and control

Sounds similar to what Russia is doing to Ukraine.
But, of course, it's just a response to a NATO aggression.

No actually the Ukrainians did that

The Crimean Ukrainians took a vote to join russia

The eastern Ukrainians set up their own independent state and are in talks with kiev over the possibility of remaining in the Ukraine but with certain guarantees

All russia is doing there is ensuring that its russian speaking neighbours are not steamrolled by the NATO controlled kiev government

The kiev government have been so aggressive because they have been told that the control of the eastern provinces is one of the terms of their loan from the IMF (all that has nothing to do with Russia)

The worst thing you can accuse russia of is coming to the aid of russian speaking people who have asked it for aid
 
You can't appease a group you create and control

I wasn't refering to particular case of ISIS; I just wanted to emphasize, that following "make peace with peace" philosophy does not necessarily guarantee desired outcome.


No actually the Ukrainians did that

The Crimean Ukrainians took a vote to join russia

The eastern Ukrainians set up their own independent state and are in talks with kiev over the possibility of remaining in the Ukraine but with certain guarantees

All russia is doing there is ensuring that its russian speaking neighbours are not steamrolled by the NATO controlled kiev government

The kiev government have been so aggressive because they have been told that the control of the eastern provinces is one of the terms of their loan from the IMF (all that has nothing to do with Russia)

The worst thing you can accuse russia of is coming to the aid of russian speaking people who have asked it for aid

I see you've no doubts about western powers staging the changes in Ukraine. I am not saying this isn't true - USA has quite a history of replacing governments with more "America-friendly" ones.

But honestly, thinking that the Kremlin is just helping "russian speaking people who have asked it for aid" is a bit naive. Exaggerated propaganda with "facist junta" headlines, causing major distress in the population; sending armed commando to lead intimidated people as rebels; arranging "independency voting" (the one in Crimea might have at least some merit, whereas in Donbas it had none) - it didn't help anyone but Putin.

You might be right about the USA being a threat to peace loving people. Heck, you might even be right about that Zionist Bankers New World Order and NATO being not an alliance of sovereign countries with their own minds, but some puppet states that will eagerly join the America if it decides to go rampant with nukes.

However, you might look a bit more critically on the acts of Putin, because he was the one that intimidated people who have been peacefully coexisting, and he was the one that is responsible for first shots fired in Donbas.

You say, he was just helping, responding to western aggression. He responded to that "aggression" with fear and guns. Seems like "make peace with peace" doesn't really suit him, eh?

About the loan from the IMF, I don't have sufficient data to argue about it. I'll be glad if you provide some sources (or a link to another post/topic where you cited one).
 
I wasn't refering to particular case of ISIS; I just wanted to emphasize, that following "make peace with peace" philosophy does not necessarily guarantee desired outcome.

Well lets look at the famous case of 'appeasement' which was the so called appeasement of Hitler

What was Hitler doing? He was challenging the power of what he called the 'international bankers'

Do you know who the 'international bankers' are that Hitler was challenging and why he was challenging them?

Also do you know that those international bankers were applying economic pressure to germany in the same way that the US is applying sanctions againt Iran and russia (and rpeviously Iraq) which made the Germans angry?

What this means is that the germans hit the war path because they were being provoked. Do you know why they made certain strategic moves like going into russia? They were being strangled by the international bankers and needed to get oil for their army so they could challenge the international bankers

Things are more complex then we are led to beleive by the narratives woven for us by the powers that be that don;t want us to be aware of the role they are playing in creating their own enemies

I see you've no doubts about western powers staging the changes in Ukraine. I am not saying this isn't true - USA has quite a history of replacing governments with more "America-friendly" ones.

The people who control US america are not 'friendly' to america

Do your friends get you in fights all the time and use you as their pawns in their power games?

Do your friends ruin your public image around the world?

Do your friends ruin your economy?

But honestly, thinking that the Kremlin is just helping "russian speaking people who have asked it for aid" is a bit naive. Exaggerated propaganda with "facist junta" headlines, causing major distress in the population; sending armed commando to lead intimidated people as rebels; arranging "independency voting" (the one in Crimea might have at least some merit, whereas in Donbas it had none) - it didn't help anyone but Putin.

Putin is simply the leader of the russian people

The russian people do not want NATO to take control of areas of land full of people who have historic ties to russia and then putting NATO nuclear missile bases on the land pointed at nearby Moscow

Would you like it if Russia orchestrated a coup in florida, put their own puppets in power. Got those puppets to take out a loan from them and then put forward missile bases in florida pointing at washington?

Are you able to do as the native american saying says and walk a mile in anothers moccasins before you pass judgment?

How would you feel if the boot was on the other foot? (ok that's enough shoe metaphors for now)

You might be right about the USA being a threat to peace loving people. Heck, you might even be right about that Zionist Bankers New World Order and NATO being not an alliance of sovereign countries with their own minds, but some puppet states that will eagerly join the America if it decides to go rampant with nukes.

It would not be 'America' that goes rampant with nukes

America is being controlled..it would be the peope who are controlling america who go rampant with nukes

The people controlling NATO (de facto army of the new world order) are the people controlling the central banks and are the people who want one world government under their control

The CIA are not really under the control of your democratically elected leaders...this is why scandals occur and there are sometimes investigations like the one into the 'fast and the furious' gun smuggling operation...because the CIA is not controlled by you the people or your representatives

The CIA is the military wing of the Council on Foreign Relations which itself is a front group for the cabal who control the central banks and who want to bring about their vision for a 'new world order'

The same is true of Mossad and MI5. They answer to outside agencies NOT to the democratic process

Our SAS (special air service) is not even officially recognised as existing. Many of the british public would likely say it is part of the army but it is not. It answers to the british equivelent of the CFR which is the royal institute for international affairs (commonly called 'chatham house')

Chatham house is the sister body of the CFR and both are part of a network called the round table group

This round table group have control of the central banks in all the countries that follow the US like lapdogs. They follow because they are controlled by the same network of people. The central banks are all in turn controlled from the central banks of central banks which is the Bank for International Settlements (BIS) which is headquartered in Switzerland (home to the 'gnomes of zurich')

However, you might look a bit more critically on the acts of Putin, because he was the one that intimidated people who have been peacefully coexisting, and he was the one that is responsible for first shots fired in Donbas.

No he was not responsible

The people in the east do not trust the Kiev government

Many of them would rather go with russia then join the EU and i do not blame them. For example look at how the economies of all the EU countries are failing

You say, he was just helping, responding to western aggression. He responded to that "aggression" with fear and guns. Seems like "make peace with peace" doesn't really suit him, eh?

You are not understanding the concept of peace for peace

It is the instigators of the violence who need to stop

We instigated the violence in Ukraine and in syria....we (the central banker controlled west) instigated the violence....the violence we instigated will not be solved with more violence

If we the people of the west want peace thenm we must demand peace form our leaders not war

Understand?

About the loan from the IMF, I don't have sufficient data to argue about it. I'll be glad if you provide some sources (or a link to another post/topic where you cited one).

What is it you want to know about the loan?

Just do a search engine search for the IMF loan to the kiev government and you will get articles from media that comes from a variety of sources (sources on both sides)
 
Well lets look at the famous case of 'appeasement' which was the so called appeasement of Hitler

What was Hitler doing? He was challenging the power of what he called the 'international bankers'

Do you know who the 'international bankers' are that Hitler was challenging and why he was challenging them?

Also do you know that those international bankers were applying economic pressure to germany in the same way that the US is applying sanctions againt Iran and russia (and rpeviously Iraq) which made the Germans angry?

What this means is that the germans hit the war path because they were being provoked. Do you know why they made certain strategic moves like going into russia? They were being strangled by the international bankers and needed to get oil for their army so they could challenge the international bankers

The problem with this argument is that omnipotent 'international bankers' cartel isn't needed to explain why Hitler hit the war path. He might have wanted to establish his own supremacy and order in the world just like any other warmonger.

I suspect that Occam's Razor-based arguments aren't plausible enough for you. Maybe that's for the best. The thing I like about conspiracy theorists is they challenge things majority of people take for granted, and encourage looking at problems from a different angle. Even if it sometimes spawns ridiculous unscientific theories (like David Icke's Reptillians), it's nice to stray from the mainstream way of thinking for a moment - we might actually find out, that Things are more complex then we are led to believe by the narratives woven for us.

How would you feel if the boot was on the other foot? (ok that's enough shoe metaphors for now)
Damn INFJ's and their "how would you feel" arguments...
But, if you insist:
Would you like it if Russia orchestrated a coup in florida, put their own puppets in power. Got those puppets to take out a loan from them and then put forward missile bases in florida pointing at washington?

I would love nothing more! ;)
Honestly, Sir, I think you've mistaken me for an American citizen.
I live in a small country in central Europe. The thing I want the most is to see people abandon bipolar cold-war-era view of the world, where sovereign (but not militarily or economically leading) countries are seen only as chunks which belong either to Moscow or Washington. Comparing independent state of Ukraine to Florida is an example of that.
As picture says more than thousand words:
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The same is true of Mossad and MI5. They answer to outside agencies NOT to the democratic process
Does Russian FSB, SVR or GRU answer to democratic process?

The people in the east do not trust the Kiev government
I don't trust my government either. Am I allowed to take up arms and start a civil war, then?
Even if America took part (size of which is difficult to assess) in replacing Yanukovych, you seem to overlook the fact that he was an awful president who defended corrupt system driven by oligarchs, and was voted out by his own party.

Many of them would rather go with russia then join the EU and i do not blame them.
It's a result of weakening (supporting oligarch system in Ukraine) and destabilizing (civil war) the country, which independence is something Putin cannot stand. Similiar situation can be seen in Belarus, where autocratic government of Lukashenko has been granted Kremlin's eternal blessing in exchange for a status of poor country completely dependent on Russian support, with no intentions to stand on their own feet.

For example look at how the economies of all the EU countries are failing
Not all of the EU countries economies are falling, but they certainly picked the wrong moment...

You are not understanding the concept of peace for peace
It is the instigators of the violence who need to stop

For me, instigator of the violence (mental and physical) in eastern Ukraine is the Kremlin. For you, it's the USA.
It's the thing we won't agree on, I guess.
 
The problem with this argument is that omnipotent 'international bankers' cartel isn't needed to explain why Hitler hit the war path. He might have wanted to establish his own supremacy and order in the world just like any other warmonger.

No he wrote about it all in his writings

The problem here is your limited knowledge

I suspect that Occam's Razor-based arguments aren't plausible enough for you.

Occams razor says that the most simple explanation from the evidence at hand is likely to be the answer

FROM THE EVIDENCE AT HAND

Clearly i have looked through more information than you and have more evidence to base my judgements on; so i am still using occams razor but from a position of being more informed than you

That's bluntly put but that is essentially the situation

Maybe that's for the best. The thing I like about conspiracy theorists is they challenge things majority of people take for granted, and encourage looking at problems from a different angle. Even if it sometimes spawns ridiculous unscientific theories (like David Icke's Reptillians), it's nice to stray from the mainstream way of thinking for a moment - we might actually find out, that Things are more complex then we are led to believe by the narratives woven for us.


Damn INFJ's and their "how would you feel" arguments...
But, if you insist:


I would love nothing more! ;)
Honestly, Sir, I think you've mistaken me for an American citizen.
I live in a small country in central Europe. The thing I want the most is to see people abandon bipolar cold-war-era view of the world, where sovereign (but not militarily or economically leading) countries are seen only as chunks which belong either to Moscow or Washington. Comparing independent state of Ukraine to Florida is an example of that.

You are contradicting yourself here

You are saying you want to see an end to the polarisation and yet you would like to see russia takeover florida which woulod be an escalation of the polarisation


As picture says more than thousand words:

What picture?
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Does Russian FSB, SVR or GRU answer to democratic process?

The russians are not trying to create a unipolar world

The russians are not builidng a police state in my country

The russians are not ruining my economy

You need to get some perspective

I don't trust my government either. Am I allowed to take up arms and start a civil war, then?

I'd recommend a peaceful approach

Even if America took part (size of which is difficult to assess) in replacing Yanukovych, you seem to overlook the fact that he was an awful president who defended corrupt system driven by oligarchs, and was voted out by his own party.

The US took part and their hacked phone calls discussing such matters have been made public

Regarding the quality of yanokovychs leadership...he was not bankrupting the country...the IMF will

It's a result of weakening (supporting oligarch system in Ukraine) and destabilizing (civil war) the country, which independence is something Putin cannot stand. Similiar situation can be seen in Belarus, where autocratic government of Lukashenko has been granted Kremlin's eternal blessing in exchange for a status of poor country completely dependent on Russian support, with no intentions to stand on their own feet.

All must be seen within the context of the wider geo-political picture where NATO is trying to destroy russia

Not all of the EU countries economies are falling, but they certainly picked the wrong moment...

Believe me they ARE failing and about to fall hard

For me, instigator of the violence (mental and physical) in eastern Ukraine is the Kremlin. For you, it's the USA.
It's the thing we won't agree on, I guess.

Things were stable until NATO interferred...now there is war and a coming economic crisis for the ukraine
 
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No he wrote about it all in his writings

He wrote a lot of things. How does international bankers cartel correspond to Lebensraum, to racial supremacy, to whole Nazi ideology?
All I'm saying there are plenty of reasons why Hitler would wage a war. Believe what you want.

Clearly i have looked through more information than you and have more evidence to base my judgements on; so i am still using occams razor but from a position of being more informed than you

That's bluntly put but that is essentially the situation

This argument is filled with disrespect. "Clearly I have more evidence", "I'm more informed than you"... These reflex assurances add no value to your argument. If you keep on using argumentation like that, the only thing you'll achieve is people not treating you seriously anymore. Especially when you're Caps-locking about all the EVIDENCE you have but not sharing any.

I guess you don't really get the purpose of my argument here.
Maybe I'm weird, but I only want to confront my 'limited knowledge' with yours, and maybe learn something in the process.
However, if the only thing I learn from it is your opinion about the state of my knowledge, than I think I shall go on my merry way. Good luck with fighting the bankers, Don Quixote.

You are contradicting yourself here

You are saying you want to see an end to the polarisation and yet you would like to see russia takeover florida which woulod be an escalation of the polarisation

This would be an escalation of the polarisation if and only if rest of the world would take the side of either Russia or USA.
I just would like these two "powers" to settle the score without involving anyone else.

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The russians are not trying to create a unipolar world

The russians are not builidng a police state in my country

The russians are not ruining my economy

You need to get some perspective

Well, seems you're lucky enough. My country has endured both police state and ruined economy by Soviet USSR.

Maybe you should get some perspective, too. You're so certain that IMF will destroy Ukraine but don't even consider that their economy is in ruins now and it isn't EU or IMF or Bank of International Settlements which caused it, but deliberate weakening performed by Russian ex-KGB agent.

The US took part and their hacked phone calls discussing such matters have been made public

(devil's advocate) Nuland's phone call does prove that America knew Yanukovych was inevitably going out sooner or later, not that they orchestrated it. (/devil's advocate)
My personal opinion is yes, they surely did act in Ukraine. However, they took advantage of a an existing situation; they didn't 'create' EuroMaidan like Putin created separatists.

But well, what do I know. I have 'limited knowledge' after all.

Peace brother and good luck with the Scottish independence referendum.
 
He wrote a lot of things. How does international bankers cartel correspond to Lebensraum, to racial supremacy, to whole Nazi ideology?
All I'm saying there are plenty of reasons why Hitler would wage a war. Believe what you want.

It corresponds to those things because Hitler perceived his people to be in a life or death struggle against the jewish people whose power he saw manifested through freemasonry, communism and international banking

He believed in a jewish plot to destroy the germanic peopels through for example economis and the degredation and corruption of their society and germanic culture through cultural marxism

The international bankers funded and aided Trotsky and lenin (both jews) who went into Russia and created a jewish movement called 'Bolshevism'. The Bolsheviks crushed the russian workers revolutionary group called the 'menshiviks' and they took control of russia and murdered its tzar; the Bolsheviks then unleashed a reign of terror in russia murdering millions of russians

Before this Trotsky had been in New York meeting the east coast jewish banking fraternity and receiving aid through their freemasonic organisation B'Nai Brith

Hitler found out that the international bankers had made a deal with the british government to use their media influence in the US to bring the American people into world war 1 on the side of the British if the british in return gave the zionist federation the land of palestine, which was at that time part of the british empire (this agreement was called the 'balfour declaration')

After this deal was struck the zionist dominated mainstream media in the US then turned on germany calling them 'the hun' and accusing them of pinning babies to church doors and generally demonising them

The germans learned that the jews had stabbed them in the back after world war one when they learned about this secret agreement at the treaty of sevres

Before this the germans had accepted large numbers of jews into germany who were fleeing from russia where they were warring with the Tzar

The situation is NOT how we are taught it is in school and the reason our schools teach us a certain version of history is because our countries are controlled by the zionist international bankers

This argument is filled with disrespect. "Clearly I have more evidence", "I'm more informed than you"... These reflex assurances add no value to your argument. If you keep on using argumentation like that, the only thing you'll achieve is people not treating you seriously anymore. Especially when you're Caps-locking about all the EVIDENCE you have but not sharing any.

I have been posting evidence all over this forum for the last 5 years

I guess you don't really get the purpose of my argument here.
Maybe I'm weird, but I only want to confront my 'limited knowledge' with yours, and maybe learn something in the process.
However, if the only thing I learn from it is your opinion about the state of my knowledge, than I think I shall go on my merry way. Good luck with fighting the bankers, Don Quixote.

By suggesting that the bankers are merely windmills you are showing you are not aware of the importance of their role in history


This would be an escalation of the polarisation if and only if rest of the world would take the side of either Russia or USA.
I just would like these two "powers" to settle the score without involving anyone else.

The war is not between Russia and the US...that's the problem

The war is between a group of people who want to centralise all the power and wealth under their control v's the rest of humanity

The fact that not all of humanity are aware of the reality of this dynamic is trestament to the ability of the centralising powers to brainwash people

We are all on the front line of the war...it is not just a war of bullets, it is a war of ideas and of money and resources and a battle for peoples hearts and minds

Our freedom, our jobs, our homes, our health and so much more is at stake


Forget the simplified narratives that are shown in the corporate mainstream news...they are an infantalised account of what is happening which are designed to keep the public in a low level of awareness

There is more going on here and i am happy to discuss those levels to this thing, but if you constantly try to pin all blame on Russia when i have already explained that there are other dimensions to this then i can only surmise that you are either belligerently refusing to listen to reason or that you are biased or that you lack the mental capacity to understand what i am telling you

Well, seems you're lucky enough. My country has endured both police state and ruined economy by Soviet USSR.

Join with the US and you can enjoy their NSA police state and ruined economy

Stop demonising russia...they are the people who have stopped the NWO both in stalins day when he took power back off the bolsheviks and now under putin as he resists the spread of the NWO in eastern europe and in the middle east

Also you should know that the USSR was a state that was under seige. The international bankers were trying to destroy it from within and from without so of course the state responded with a suspicious police apparatus. Secondly the International bankers were working for the economic ruin of the USSR so of course it struggled economically. The hope of the socialist revolutionaries had been for germany (the industrial heartland of Europe) to join the revolution but it did not (the allies grabbed the industrial half) which left russia (a peasant economy) to try and face the economic might of the international bankers (hence the drawing of the defencive 'iron curtain' across Europe which the 'west' continued to breach with U2 spy planes)

Maybe you should get some perspective, too. You're so certain that IMF will destroy Ukraine but don't even consider that their economy is in ruins now and it isn't EU or IMF or Bank of International Settlements which caused it, but deliberate weakening performed by Russian ex-KGB agent.

No that is not what has happened

Russia has told the ukraine that if it wants to join the EU then it is not entitled to any special deals on its gas anymore and must also payback all the money it already owes to russia...which frankly is fair enough

The IMF is a leech...it sucks countries dry and it is doing the same to ukraine

The Ukraine is dependent on Russian gas so to go to the EU is madness

NATO doesn't care about the Ukrianian people...it doesn't care what the economic effects will be of snatching it away from russia

This move will destroy the Ukrainian economy

(devil's advocate) Nuland's phone call does prove that America knew Yanukovych was inevitably going out sooner or later, not that they orchestrated it. (/devil's advocate)
My personal opinion is yes, they surely did act in Ukraine. However, they took advantage of a an existing situation; they didn't 'create' EuroMaidan like Putin created separatists.

There were legitimate protests by the Ukrianian people...these were hijaked by right wing thugs backed by the US

The Mossad planted snipers in the middle that shot people on both sides to foment violence and discord

But well, what do I know. I have 'limited knowledge' after all.

Peace brother and good luck with the Scottish independence referendum.
 
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Let’s not let small disagreements in information and ideology keep us from working toward the goal of getting the information out there for the most eyes to see.
Let us work together.
 
[h=1]Fmr. IDF Soldier Calls on Americans to Stand Up to Israel War Crimes | Interview with Eran Efrati[/h]

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I have been warning here for years now about artificial sweeteners such as ASPARTAME and MONOSODIUM GLUTOMATE (MSG) and a recent study has proven that they are linked to o0besity and diabetes:

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-to-rise-in-obesity-and-diabetes-9739129.html

[h=1]Sweeteners 'linked to rise in obesity and diabetes'[/h]
Sugar-free sweeteners could increase glucose intolerance and diabetes risk by affecting bacteria in the gut, a study has suggested.

Far from improving metabolism and helping people to slim, widespread use of artificial sweeteners may be fuelling the obesity and diabetes epidemic, it is claimed.
Scientists found that giving mice water laced with three commonly used sweeteners in doses corresponding to those recommended for humans caused them to develop glucose intolerance.
The condition occurs when sugar levels in the blood rise and can lead to Type-2 diabetes, which affects around 2.7 million people in the UK.
Tests showed that in mice, sweeteners altered the balance of gut microbes that have been linked to susceptibility to metabolic diseases. They also affected the composition and function of gut bacteria in a small number of human volunteers, resulting in glucose intolerance after one week. The lead researcher, Dr Eran Elinav, from the Weizmann Institute in Rehovot, Israel, said: “This calls for reassessment of today’s massive, unsupervised consumption of these substances.”
The study, reported in the journal Nature, found that people’s reaction to sweeteners varied depending on the kind of bacteria they harboured.
Two different populations of human gut microbes were identified, one that induced glucose intolerance when exposed to the sweeteners and another that did not.
Certain bacteria reacted to artificial sweeteners by secreting substances that provoked an inflammatory response similar to a sugar overdose, the scientists believe.
British experts said the findings were interesting but urged caution. Dr Katarina Kos, senior lecturer and consultant in diabetes and endocrinology at the University of Exeter, pointed out that only seven human volunteers were studied, and that further confirmation would be needed “prior to making firm conclusions”.
She added: “These findings support the widespread understanding that water is the healthiest option and we should avoid sweet and sweetened drinks. Water is the best drink to control blood sugar.”

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