Are we as a society being kept from discussing the big issues?

[muir]

No, you're a weirdo cuz your muir-centric thought process misinterpreted me.

well to be fair you did leave room for confusion

I think the only people who are remembering are those who already cared about this stuff, but were afraid of being labeled as conspiracy theorists. The rest of the 9-to-5 reality-show watching normies don't give a fuk.

Well they're beginning to realise that they are not normal and neither is their society or their authorities

While you see "exposure", what I take from this is that things for the commoner are getting worse, and the very existence of exposure is a sign that those in power don't need to expend much energy/resources to keep their secrets since they know they have everything under control. Even more control than before.

No the internet was a game changer

We are seeing more and more whistleblowers also as people are beginning to realise the urgency of the situation, so things are speeding up now as they try to push through their plans whilst more and more people are taking notice and seeking to oppose those plans

They have the advantage of suprise though as their plot has been generations in the making and has for the most part been carried out in secrecy or under veiled justifications

Yes things are getting worse as i've been saying they would for years.....they have to get worse because people don't react until they are motivated enough to get off their butts

But as gerald celente says: ''when people lose everything, they lose it''

So the conspirators who are trying to move everyone into a world government have to make life unbearable under the current system so that people will agree to go along with their system...but tht is a risky strategy because it can backlash against them...hence the militarisation of the police and the fema camps and DHS tanks etc

They create the PROBLEM (economic hardship) in order to provoke a REACTION (desperation on the part of the public) so that they can offer them their pre-prepared SOLUTION (world government)

So we are all headed down the toilet i'm afraid but why it is so important to understand what is going on is that we must not accept their SOLUTION but rather create our own solution.

This means we are at a cross roads. Our desperation will force a decision from us....we will either aquiesce to being their slaves under a technological totalitarian world government police state or we will reject that and be motivated enough to try something else

Here is a clip of conspirator Kissinger explaining how this form of psychological pressure works. he says that they should apply unbearable pressure to their enemies until they crack because as he says no one can keep waking up each morning looking into the abyss

[video=youtube;4bKwH3kJew4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bKwH3kJew4[/video]

Its a horrible situation...they are a bunch of heartless fuckers

So...are we gonna let the heartless fuckers dominate us or are we going to oppose it?

The problem is as you've identified that many people are not paying attention and this lets the heartless fuckers get away with murder

but as the desperation grows people will pay more and more attention. even the most hardcore escapists will eventually have to face upto reality because the reality train is now crashing hard into their reality

There's no point getting angry with me about this...i'm just explaining whats going on...but the events are going to happen anyway. So i've had time over all these years that i've been discussing all this stuff to psychologically prepare myself.....none of this stuff is a shock to me...i've expected it all and i expect far worse yet

So what i tell myself is that although the desperation is horrible at the same time i know that it will wake people up and that without it they will never pay any attention

To create change you don;t need everyone to be aware but you do need a critical mass. We are seeing that critical mass building

I laugh at protests, and so do governments. Makes commoners feel they have some power. They'll kick and scream, and their governments will pretend like they're giving in to the will of the people. Protests are just loud and violent facades of progress.

I agree i don't think marches tend to produce tangible results but think of them like this: they are barometers of the public mood

The protests are getting louder and more frequent which means the public mood is changing....read the signs

I appreciate the effort of your message, but I can't respond to the rest of it as it is way more than I was even talking about.

no worries

 

[muir]

I know these apply to the US…but you know how our influence fucks with everyone…anyhow…the profits over people continues.

They are heartless people

and although the solutions are out there to all these problems it is not in the game plan of these people to solve things...they are deliberately imposing economic austerity on people

This has two fucntions...it weakens people making them easier to control and it scares them into agreeing to a new direction (world government)

Expect over the next few years to hear more voices in the media speaking about the need for world government as they psychologically prepare us for that move

 

[muir]

They have absolutely proven scientifically that we can pass phobias and irrational fears through our DNA.
http://www.infjs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27025&page=114&p=807428&viewfull=1#post807428
Not sure where they will go from there…do you extract that portion of the DNA? IF so, do you have someone without emotion, etc.?
Just something to think about I thought was interesting.

DNA is an incredible thing...it is a receiver and transmitter and it also stores vast quantities of information.....I think we're going to be learning some pretty mind blowing stuff about DNA over the coming years

 

[Skarekrow]

The ONE semi-socialist we have in Congress.
Oh…but “socialist” is such a naughty word now.
Idiots.

 

[muir]

The ONE semi-socialist we have in Congress.
Oh…but “socialist” is such a naughty word now.
Idiots.

Things might look grim in the US at the moment but you guys have held onto your guns which is going to act as a deterent

Meanwhile we might be able to throw a spanner in the works in europe that will derail the whole process

This year is the first time i've seen really positive signs of real resistance. I know occupy was exciting but it kind of hit a standstill point where it knew it would have to evolve and go political which it now has and we are seeing new parties emerge in europe

The awakening speeds up exponentially because people help awaken those around them and the scandals also open peoples minds as they realise that they need to reconfigure how they viewed the world

I think the next 2 years are going to be crucial in terms of how all this plays out but if the EU can be destroyed then the NWO will have been set back big time and then they might also lose momentum in the US because there's no point rolling out a world government without Europe

In the meantime though they are putting the pressure on because they are going for broke...we just need to make sure that they end up exactly that: broke

 

[Skarekrow]

Things might look grim in the US at the moment but you guys have held onto your guns which is going to act as a deterent

Meanwhile we might be able to throw a spanner in the works in europe that will derail the whole process

This year is the first time i've seen really positive signs of real resistance. I know occupy was exciting but it kind of hit a standstill point where it knew it would have to evolve and go political which it now has and we are seeing new parties emerge in europe

The awakening speeds up exponentially because people help awaken those around them and the scandals also open peoples minds as they realise that they need to reconfigure how they viewed the world

I think the next 2 years are going to be crucial in terms of how all this plays out but if the EU can be destroyed then the NWO will have been set back big time and then they might also lose momentum in the US because there's no point rolling out a world government without Europe

In the meantime though they are putting the pressure on because they are going for broke...we just need to make sure that they end up exactly that: broke

Occupy was almost immediately co-opted by a bunch of fucking idiots IMO.
They don’t have the balls to actually fight.
If they did…I would join in.

 

[Skarekrow]

[MENTION=5511]o_q[/MENTION]

[video=youtube_share;aXnkFd373T4]http://youtu.be/aXnkFd373T4[/video]

 

[Skarekrow]

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/jmcxny/chappelle-s-show-black-bush---uncensored

Here’s the full version…funny shit.

 

[muir]

Occupy was almost immediately co-opted by a bunch of fucking idiots IMO.
They don’t have the balls to actually fight.
If they did…I would join in.

Well it was aware that leaders are usually murdered by the nwo conspirators so there was always a desire to avoid a centralised leadership...that in itself shows an evolution of thought

Occupy then morphed into other things

So in Spain they became the PODEMOS party which is gathering pace

It only needs one country to say no to the bankers in Europe and default and step out of the EU and a domino effect will occur

I think because of the economic hardship people are facing there will need to be some sort of resolution soon otherwise things could just go pop!

So i think over the next coupla years....we will see big shifts

FBI refusing to hand over documents that detail a plot to kill occupy leaders: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ists-assassinate-leaders-Occupy-movement.html

 

[Y0u]

The ONE semi-socialist we have in Congress.
Oh…but “socialist” is such a naughty word now.
Idiots.

Yeah, I don't know if you saw about the Koch brothers talking about how they would spend almost a billion dollars in the next presidential campaign. Seriously, how can people think that's an okay thing and has no effect on politics. Not to mention all of the better uses the money has. At least I'm physically too zonked out to throw a fit, but I just might be able to yet.

 

[Skarekrow]

Yeah, I don't know if you saw about the Koch brothers talking about how they would spend almost a billion dollars in the next presidential campaign. Seriously, how can people think that's an okay thing and has no effect on politics. Not to mention all of the better uses the money has. At least I'm physically too zonked out to throw a fit, but I just might be able to yet.

It is exactly that feeling of powerlessness that they wish to incur on the population IMO.
They are disgusting individuals…
Hello…remember fucking Watergate people?!! That was the REASON we had such campaign laws in place.
Dumb…they have set it all up for disaster.

 

[muir]

Yeah, I don't know if you saw about the Koch brothers talking about how they would spend almost a billion dollars in the next presidential campaign. Seriously, how can people think that's an okay thing and has no effect on politics. Not to mention all of the better uses the money has. At least I'm physically too zonked out to throw a fit, but I just might be able to yet.

They're not worth a fit

These guys get away with what they get away with because of the ignorance of the public so if you want to hurt them help to lessen the ignorance of the public

As Henry Ford said:
''It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning''


Well then...maybe its time people learned about the banking system

 

[Y0u]

They're not worth a fit

These guys get away with what they get away with because of the ignorance of the public so if you want to hurt them help to lessen the ignorance of the public

As Henry Ford said:
''It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning''


Well then...maybe its time people learned about the banking system

I suppose I could do myself a favor and learn more specifics on the laws, typical investment strategies, etc, rather than just the macro side. The financial system has a large part to do with our current state of affairs, but there is definitely more to it. Currently, politicians rely too much on money to get them elected, which obviously effects who gets into office and what their goals are. Our congress has done almost nothing useful in the past 6 years or so. Truly, if I could get paid such amounts doing as little useful stuff as they do... actually, I'd feel ashamed of myself.

Fortunately/unfortunately, I live where people know most all of this stuff already. A lot of people here use credit unions instead of the big banks, and get better deals. They weren't in trouble from reckless loans and CDS's but ended up footing some of the bill anyway. Guess who has more lobbyists and in-crowd bureaucrats working for them in The Slump.

 

[Y0u]

It is exactly that feeling of powerlessness that they wish to incur on the population IMO.
They are disgusting individuals…
Hello…remember fucking Watergate people?!! That was the REASON we had such campaign laws in place.
Dumb…they have set it all up for disaster.

I used to feel utterly disgusted by it too, but now I've started to feel more sorry for most of the oligarchs (but there are some good ones who play the game to try to help). To have the life experiences that led their egos to feel the need to do what they do is sad. Most of them could have done with a lot more constructive (and at least somewhat unconditional) love in their lives that would have led them to appreciate people and have more respect for themselves by acting in a morally considerate, rather than selfish, manner.

 

[muir]

I suppose I could do myself a favor and learn more specifics on the laws, typical investment strategies, etc, rather than just the macro side. The financial system has a large part to do with our current state of affairs, but there is definitely more to it.

Money is key to their system

One of the most insightful quotes from the conspirators was this by Mayer amschel rothschild the founder of the rothschild banking dynasty who clearly had a genius for theivery

''Give me control of a nations money supply, and I care not who makes it’s laws''

he knew where the power lies because money is just energy...its our energy (it's linked to our time and labour) and they control it

Currently, politicians rely too much on money to get them elected, which obviously effects who gets into office and what their goals are. Our congress has done almost nothing useful in the past 6 years or so.

But where does the money that drives the lobbying come from?

It all goes back to the banking system...which is why as bill still says the bank buildings are always the biggest in town

Truly, if I could get paid such amounts doing as little useful stuff as they do... actually, I'd feel ashamed of myself.

Lol i know what you mean

Fortunately/unfortunately, I live where people know most all of this stuff already. A lot of people here use credit unions instead of the big banks, and get better deals. They weren't in trouble from reckless loans and CDS's but ended up footing some of the bill anyway. Guess who has more lobbyists and in-crowd bureaucrats working for them in The Slump.

Our political parties here in the UK are all funded by the financial sector

20% of our economy is finance because the architects of the EU decided that each country would have a specialism and the Uk was allocated finance...it's become a total parasite on our economy sucking out interest like a giant vampiric leech

The City of London banking district is the world centre for tax evasion

But all these villains we talk about here, for example you and Skarekrow have both recently mentioned the cock brothers, are all empowered by their money; if you destroyed their money where would their power be then?

Think about that for a minute

So if we create new interest free currencies created by the people instead of the central banks and we don't recognise their money anymore then they're toast

 

[muir]

Hillary Clinton caught in massive corruption....it should end her political career, but how many people know how corrupt she is?

http://conservativetribune.com/hillary-massive-corruption/

When it comes to where Hillary Clinton gets her campaign money, the putative 2016 Democrat presidential front-runner has made her position clear: what difference does it make?
The Clinton Foundation certainly doesn’t think it makes any, since the giant nonprofit silently removed its rules forbidding foreign governments from making donations. Now, the fundraising arm of Bill and Hillary, Inc. can watched the money roll in.


According to the Wall Street Journal, “the foundation has raised at least $48 million from overseas governments” since 2001. And some of this money comes from worrying sources.
For instance, one of the biggest donors is Saudi Arabia, whose Shariah-on-steroids government has donated no less than $10 million of that total.
Another donor is a specific Canadian government agency interested in promoting the Keystone XL pipeline. While the Keystone XL pipeline is no doubt a beneficial project, it certainly creates the image of a conflict of interest, if not a quid pro quo relationship.


And then there’s another donor, Qatar. The small Arab nation has faced numerous human rights violations charges over its use of de facto slave labor in preparations for the 2022 World Cup, which it will be hosting (H/T Washington Free Beacon).
Of course, the Clinton Foundation denies any connection to whatever campaign Hillary may be planning.
“The Clinton Foundation is a philanthropy, period,” Clinton Foundation spokesman Craig Minassian told Fox News.
But if that were truly the case, why would there be any need to suspend foreign donations while Hillary Clinton was the secretary of state in the first place?
Wouldn’t her running for the highest office in the land — the office which has the power to nominate the secretary of state, after all — be an even greater conflict of interest?
Given her husband’s penchant for inappropriate fundraising tactics — using the Oval Office to sell everything from influence to pardons with the aplomb and unabashed greed of a corrupt county sheriff — you would think that Hillary might steer away from selling our country to the highest foreign bidder.
Apparently, though, the apple doesn’t marry far from the tree.

 

[muir]

http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/world/bush-family-ties-to-terror-suspects-re-opened-by-9-11-28-pages/article/426577#ixzz3SVgFyYnM

[h=1]Bush family ties to terror suspects re-opened by 9/11 '28 pages'[/h] By Ralph Lopez Feb 21, 2015 in World

As pressure builds to make public 28 pages of a joint congressional inquiry on 9/11 which was classified by President George W. Bush, the Bush family's well-documented relationships to Saudi and other foreign terror suspects are again coming to the fore.

for more click on link above
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[muir]

Fatah member says ISIS never attacks Israel despite sharing a border with it because it is an extension of the zionist enterprise

[video=youtube;rWCXIH5LBTs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWCXIH5LBTs[/video]

Jewish academic norman Finkelstein meanwhile says that netenyahu is insane and does not represent all jews

[video=youtube;51UseTj-nR8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51UseTj-nR8#t=241[/video]

Meanwhile in europe the paris attacks are being used to justify closing down free speech

[video=youtube;J0dkqK1pGqE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0dkqK1pGqE[/video]

 

[muir]

A segment from Icke's recent wembley talk on the illusion of time and space

[video=youtube;Uf30cm1kjQE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf30cm1kjQE#t=55[/video]

 

[muir]

[h=1]Satanic Priest Explains Pop Culture Brainwash[/h]

[video=youtube;wJLPi23Y_hA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJLPi23Y_hA[/video]