Biden's 'Racial Jungle'

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Asa said:
Nic Cage for president, because at this point, why not?
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Reason said:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-racial-jungle-quote/

Joe Biden, 1977:
“Unless we do something about this, my children are going to grow up in a jungle, the jungle being a racial jungle [emphasis added] with tensions having built so high that it is going to explode at some point. We have got to make some move on this.”

Is this racist? And is Biden a racist in general?
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I don't know what's objectionable here.

He's just making a reference to growing racial tensions.

Biden probably carries some prejudices just like everybody else, but I highly doubt that he's a 'racist'. After all, one of his friends was black (lol).


Racism is a set of beliefs - an 'ism' - and it's unfortunate that the word has transformed into connoting all kinds of unconscious biases.
 
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Racism is a set of beliefs - an 'ism' - and it's unfortunate that the word has transformed into connoting all kinds of unconscious biases.
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Yeah, I've often found it difficult to determine if someone is racially prejudicial, because most people won't say overtly racist things. Even if they do turn out to be racist, my reaction is usually like "meh, the chances that this person has any effect on the world is negligible." Biden definitely would have an impact on things if harbored racial prejudices. The problem goes way beyond the President, though. The world still prefers white men on top of the government, controlling the media, driving the entertainment industry, etc., and it's that societal preference/norm that is the larger problem. However, I'd rather vote for a person that wants to rip society apart and examine it for what it is... when they come along... NEVER
 
Sandie33 said:
Imho, Biden is what I call a generation bigot. Yes, and Racist. However, he's come along way from what he once was and with the statement above it sounds like he's calling everyone out to make a change. For them to look in the mirror and accept their personal position on Racism and then do something about it.
The callout being for America, and the world in general, to put aside the idea that there is some sorting criteria that one human is some how above, or greater, than another human. (Thanks Darwin for seperating the classes and the masses, *said with deep sarcasm.)

It's time to break that repetitive generational curse. I think Biden is trying to convey a message that we all need to hear. That in accepting, whether some like it or not, we are indeed all equal in all measures, it's what we do with it that causes seperations and segregations and the great divide, be it color, creed, social-economic standing, or any other criteria humans have made up to say I'm better than You.

For example, a bit of American history. The Mississippi River was referred to The Great Divide after the Civil War. It was refferred as such because every one who didn't like Lincoln's freedom stance could pack up and move west, and they did.

Division has been in this country since the first man set foot on the dirt and disrupted the natives, the aboriginal inhabitants. It can be compared to Australia and Queensland through seeing how it's historical population was established. The dirt was more important than the people that lived on it to those that wanted it. Why did they want it? Greed. It was a money maker. Invading populations have had this same mindset for eons; they couldn't all control it so they drove out others and took it over as their own.

We can see the pattern being repeated in modern day wars that are still fought because one group sees something the other group has and they want it, and by whatever means necessary they are going to have it.

This is also obvious in racism.

Racism is learned and can be unlearned. Once an individual digs deep to analyze their personal stance, their beliefs, regarding racism, accept it, and live from that perspective instead of what society assumes we should do change will come.
It make take generations, but it will come.

Racism isn't just a black thing, it's a LACK thing. A lack of standing up for the rights in the world, by rights I mean acceptance of the goodness of human kind. Working together towards equalities in all facets of life not just the division of color. All the values and beliefs that aren't attached to money and status...the classes and the masses are a divisionary ideology that is long beyond being outdated.

Personally, I don't agree with either of my choices of leadership candidates. It doesn't sit well with me that I am going to be forced to chose the lesser of two evils yet again.
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This is a stunning summary of what is going on. I'm like... moved. Nice!

I will admit to this, I did not know who said it at first, I missed that part. My opinion changed when I thought it was the other guy. I bet I'm not alone.
 
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Reason said:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-racial-jungle-quote/

Joe Biden, 1977:
“Unless we do something about this, my children are going to grow up in a jungle, the jungle being a racial jungle [emphasis added] with tensions having built so high that it is going to explode at some point. We have got to make some move on this.”

Is this racist? And is Biden a racist in general?
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Not racist in itself but certainly a candidate for being interpreted as racist.

The use of the expression 'racial jungle' is pretty unsavoury to say the least. I don't know enough about Biden to have a more definite opinion, though.
 
noisebloom said:
I'm not sure how anyone can understand him when his foot is always in his mouth...
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Wow, it's kind of depressing in a way that your options will be Trump versus 'dude who always has his foot in his mouth' lol.

Whatever we Frenchies might think of Macron, there is at least no doubt that he is super smart.
 
Ren said:
Wow, it's kind of depressing in a way that your options will be Trump versus 'dude who always has his foot in his mouth' lol.

Whatever we Frenchies might think of Macron, there is at least no doubt that he is super smart.
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Which MBTI type you think Macron is?
 
philostam said:
Which MBTI type you think Macron is?
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ENTJ. He's likely a 3w2 which is why some people see him as an ENFJ. But I think he's very much a thinker.

Wherever he can he takes a pragmatic approach (Te) and doesn't seem much concerned with ideology.
 
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Ren said:
ENTJ. He's likely a 3w2 which is why some people see him as an ENFJ. But I think he's very much a thinker.

Wherever he can he takes a pragmatic approach (Te) and doesn't seem much concerned with ideology.
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Yeah, he always struck me as an NT.

I didn't listen to him much, but I agree with ENTJ. He is quite smart, talkative and assertive but can also play the politics game well, show empathy when needed etc.

I quite like him. A decent leader and a good calming presence in these times. He's not living in denial but also remains positive and optimistic, IF the right steps are taken.
 
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