Bush was a religious nutjob?

I believe that many politicians are whackjobs...
I don't believe that our soldiers are fighting for our "freedom", rather, idealogical influence in another region, especially one that is rich in oil
I don't believe I will be able to make any economical statements that aren't just merely opinions or "perhaps" type statments, b/c I am 15 and know nothing of economics. It is a scientific field in itself, and those who make statements about economic strategies better know their stuff before they mouth off.
I don't understand the trickle down thing. It seems like it depends a lot on the integrity of big business owners. Notice I used understand, and seem.
I think a lot of people voted in Obama because he is black. I think he is doing an alright job. He is by no means a savior but he isn't the antichrist either.

Obama is just as white as he is black....haha, I love pointing that out. Anyways Idk if that was relevant, but I felt like saying it.
Politicians want your soul <---- fact (I kid I kid)
 
errrrrrrrrrm said:
Michelle Malkin, thats the woman who wrote the book on racial profiling in the second world war, a book that was condemned by basically everyone with any actual knowledge as (at best) revisionist history.
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It was certainly condemned by people who are against racial profiling that's for sure. As for what constitutes "everyone with any actual knowledge" well... people might have differing opinions on that.
 
Billy said:
It was certainly condemned by people who are against racial profiling that's for sure. As for what constitutes "everyone with any actual knowledge" well... people might have differing opinions on that.
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well every opinion from genuine historians that I've read or heard about was that it had very little to do with reality, other than there was a war and people were put in internment camps, if you know of other opinions from informed sources I'd be interested to read them.
 
Billy said:
Actually, yes, look into it. I know a lot of liberals and democrats who love to toss around the NeoCon label since Bush was president, and usually they are referring to the "jews" who controlled the president. A la the Iraq war and helping Israel when we shouldn't be etc. That's the standard line of reasoning. If you are going to toss around labels at least learn thier history and what they mean, dont toss them around blindly.
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whether those people are mostly/mainly/partly jewish or not is incidental, they are being referred to as neocons because thats what they are, neoconservatives by any definition, I'm guessing they are mostly males as well but you aren't claiming neocon is a code word for males.

How's about some sort of evidence for this history of neocon being used as a derogatory term for jew.

If you're looking for a reason why the term neocon has been tossed around since bush has been president, I'd say it's because his most controversial actions (a la the iraq war) were those of a neoconservative, and his advisers were neoconservatives, unless you can provide some other more plausible explanation then you're just talking rubbish.
 
Billy said:
Your intellectual dishonesty does you little service.
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The person fabricating Stupid Shit bears the burden of proof responsibility, not the one contesting it. Until then I'll be content amusing myself. Capiche?
 
errrrrrrrrrm said:
whether those people are mostly/mainly/partly jewish or not is incidental, they are being referred to as neocons because thats what they are, neoconservatives by any definition, I'm guessing they are mostly males as well but you aren't claiming neocon is a code word for males.

How's about some sort of evidence for this history of neocon being used as a derogatory term for jew.

If you're looking for a reason why the term neocon has been tossed around since bush has been president, I'd say it's because his most controversial actions (a la the iraq war) were those of a neoconservative, and his advisers were neoconservatives, unless you can provide some other more plausible explanation then you're just talking rubbish.
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Yeah, yeah, I get it youre playing the obtuse game, I am sorry I dont have a book filled with cited examples from across the last 8 years from "worthy sources" documenting when they changed all definitions hence forth. All I have are my ears, my experience going through politics as a foot soldier for the Democrats, and lots of time spent around liberal socialist labor thugs whom I worked with. Ya know the bread and butter of the Democrat machine, and they used Jew and Neocon for the same thing. "effing neocons starting a war for israel while we bleed! blah blah blah".

Thats the most maddening part of politics and the game of politics on the internet. Its so difficult to get good sources for how people actually feel. Because as soon as you turn the camera on or the journalists show up all the hate spewing psychos who make up the loudest base of the grass roots movements get pushed aside and some media friendly clone gets to talk to the cameras. I cant tell you how maddening that is... but most people play right into it on thier side of the fence. I know I do it too. But its out there, dont believe me, go out and mingle with real feet on the ground liberal activists, and listen to what they say. It will turn your stomach half of it.


Arg said:
The person fabricating Stupid Shit bears the burden of proof responsibility, not the one contesting it. Until then I'll be content amusing myself. Capiche?
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If I cared what you thought about and thought enlightening you was worth it I might, but as a conservative in an unholy place I must pick my battles wisely before I run out of friends ;) if you are truly interested you'll look it up on your own time just for curiosity, if not, then it would have been a waste for me to lay it out for you anyway... so yeah. Adios
 
Billy said:
..As a conservative in an unholy place I must pick my battles wisely before I run out of friends
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Is someone feeling ill at ease in Zion?

Anywho, I'm not that interested. It was such an off-the-wall definition for Neocon it initially sparked some curiosity. The babblings of partisans are always fun, whichever side of the fence they're on.
 
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Billy said:
Yeah, yeah, I get it youre playing the obtuse game, I am sorry I dont have a book filled with cited examples from across the last 8 years from "worthy sources" documenting when they changed all definitions hence forth.
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as Arg said, you're the one challenging the accepted truth so the burden of proof is on you

All I have are my ears, my experience going through politics as a foot soldier for the Democrats, and lots of time spent around liberal socialist labor thugs whom I worked with. Ya know the bread and butter of the Democrat machine, and they used Jew and Neocon for the same thing. "effing neocons starting a war for israel while we bleed! blah blah blah".
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having read that quote here's my interpretation: it's generally accepted that neocons believe the middle east conflict to be a defining one and that support for israel, as the only democratic country in the area (not to mention being a strong american ally), is essential to foster an outcome favourable to US interests. In addition to that (I assume you're talking about the iraq war), it was obvious before the conflict even started that WMD was an excuse, they had started with the answer and tried to find evidence to support it. One plausible explanation is that the war was actually motivated by wanting removing a threat to their democratic ally in the region (it's not what I personally think but it is plausible) and potentially gain a new one.

That kind of attitude was common in the UK towards tony blair/shrub at the time of the iraq war but it wasn't "effing neocons" it was "effing blair/bush", nothing to do with religion.
 
Arg said:
Is someone feeling ill at ease in Zion?
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Interesting question for a statement.....
Kool aid, Kool aid...tastes great....can't wait.

I find it interesting when people travel out of their way or routine to look at someone without talking to them; it shows a bit of interest, but what a missed opportunity. There are folk traveling all over the place to talk to people, so why not talk instead of just look?

If the removal of the enemies of Israel is the norm, there be a lotta stuff about to hit the fan.
 
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Interesting question for a statement.....
Kool aid, Kool aid...tastes great....can't wait....If the removal of the enemies of Israel is the norm, there be a lotta stuff about to hit the fan.
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That ran the entire gamut of the -what the fuck is he talking about- spectrum. Crystallize your question/observation then get back to me.
 
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Jews feel like they're in constant danger of extermination and that if they don't control world happenings then there will be another holocaust. It's kinda absurd. I say this as a Jew.
 
Often wondered (israel only), since Rape victims aren't allowed to rape... Why are Holocaust victims allowed to inflict holocaust?
 
Shai Gar said:
Murdoch is a NeoCon Australian, not a Jew.
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Come to America Shai Gar. We have marginalized Murdoch here. We don't trust any not of the tribe, even if they might be supportive. That's why Israel only trusts America. Tons of Jews in America. More than there are in Israel.
 
Did this turn into a God exists/doesn't exist debate?

I've heard of goodwins law, but I hereby make a new one.
"Sithious law"

"As a internet discussion grows longer, the probability of a religious debate approaches 1"
 
Sithious said:
Did this turn into a God exists/doesn't exist debate?

I've heard of goodwins law, but I hereby make a new one.
"Sithious law"

"As a internet discussion grows longer, the probability of a religious debate approaches 1"
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Hey, you can't talk about Nazism without talking about God. Okay, you can, but you can't talk about Communism without talking about God, and its hard to talk about Nazism without remembering that the Nazis fought the soviets, and then the U.S. fought the soviets.

Did I mention that Hitler often let out large quantities of foul-smelling gas?
 
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