Discussing the Quantum Brain (Orch OR) - Penrose and Hameroff

[TomasM]

Does our brain work like a quantum computer? Can we define our consciousness through quantum processes.

This is what ORCH OR is suggesting and has been using experimentation to solidify.

We are "aware" of what time is.

This is outside the scope of the discussion but there is plenty of debate about time among physicist. We definitely have a perception of it. It would be an interesting discussion if you want to start a new thread.

 

[Wyote]

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[dragulagu]

This is what ORCH OR is suggesting and has been using experimentation to solidify.

A quantum computer in the purest sense has a very defined way of how it works. It follows computer-logic. While our brain is a product of evolution, or rather adaption. A very different architecture.

This is outside the scope of the discussion but there is plenty of debate about time among physicist. We definitely have a perception of it. It would be an interesting discussion if you want to start a new thread.

Would love to discuss it outside this thread as the topic on its own is kind of fascinating. But the question does have intent with this discussion, quantum reality is unbound to the flow of time. It works with the general canon of "something happens", and, "this comes out of it".

Quantum physics does not rely on a general direction of time in the purest sense; the action or flow of time can be reversed. While the physics of our brain follows follows a general flow, we are aligned with the general direction of time.

I did a thing. About 16min or 8 on 2x speed.
Decent simple primer.

That discussion sounds...pretty peculiar .

 

[Wyote]

That discussion sounds...pretty peculiar .

Probably because it's AI generated
The voices are more normal-ish than a lot of the garbage out there though

At any rate, I think this is an interesting topic and I feel like it's worth attempting to reach a wide audience with
More brains equals more progress

 

[TomasM]

@dragulagu - Quantum computing is merging the advancement of traditional computing with quantum function. Separately, time as it relates to quantum mechanics, is highly theoretical. My point is that these topics can’t really be explored within the context of ORCH OR because it hasn’t yet experimentally drilled down deep enough into quantum mechanics.

The theory is still attempting to establish the connection between consciousness and quantum mechanics as a demarcation. Doing this requires the merging of biological and quantum experimentation which often utilizes tissue samples.

I do find your thoughts on quantum interesting but I really can’t discuss it within this context because the theory simply hasn’t advanced itself to the depth you are attempting to engage. This is why I suggested a separate thread.