INFJ and paranormal gifted?

http://forum.infjs.com/showthread.php?t=4790&page=5

I'm not sure if this is the same thing, but I get this type of intuition alot. Post number 99 in my blog describes when I first had a strange sense of Haiti, although I didn't know specifically it woulod be Haiti. There was also another post I made somewhere along the way after this one, but I don't remember what thread it was on. I believe it was about feeling something during the mornings, in the air while i was driving, sort of a warning that something was going to happen...
 
I think that a lot of these paranormal things come from a high Ni or maybe also a high Fi. What they do is "sense" the energy in a place or around a person and know what has happened or know some specific details about that person. I have seen a difference between some paranormal gifted persons that some of them are very much into the "knowing" something, and others into "feeling" something. I would say that the "knowers" use more of Ni while the "feelers" use more of Fi.
 
I think its like the correlation between being INTP and being scientifically inclined.

Its there but its not across the board.
 
As an INTP, I'm likely to disparage "paranormal" stuff. But, my INFJ wife has been reading my mind since we were married. It's amazing and a bit unsettling. I don't want to believe it but she keeps doing it! Who knows how much she knows but doesn't say? I really have to watch what I think.
 
Norton said:
As an INTP, I'm likely to disparage "paranormal" stuff. But, my INFJ wife has been reading my mind since we were married. It's amazing and a bit unsettling. I don't want to believe it but she keeps doing it! Who knows how much she knows but doesn't say? I really have to watch what I think.
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lol, my bf feels uncomfortable with this sometimes too.
 
Goodewitch said:
These sorts of tests are rubbish for really trying to prove clairvoyance or precognition or even ESP. When will science understand that this sort of phenomenon cant be reproduced in a lab, or with predictable regularity?

I'm rubbsh at those tests, but.. my work is as a psychic who specialises in future prediction, and I think Im rather good at it.
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While I still believe that the test might be useful in indicating paranormal ability, I do not believe that failing the test is indicative that a person is not exhibiting paranormal abilities IRL. But I think that predictive inconsistency applies to most tests out in the real world. For instance, failing an IQ test doesn't necessarily mean you're mentally challenged. A host of other factors could have influenced your test score - such as a lack of practice with pencil and paper tests. Lesson learned: one can never rely solely on a man-made test to determine the validity of a complex phenomenon.

Some users also posted earlier in the thread, that one possible reason for the predictive fallibility of such lab tests has to do with one of the ways in which the mind works in exercising paranormal ability - it taps into the conscious or unconscious awareness of sentient beings (not cards!).

Also, in another thread that I started, another user brought up the fact that Science is at least trying to make sense of paranormal phenomenon through quantum theory. It is possible to create a mathematical construct that views all phenomena existing within our particular space-time as something that has ALREADY happened - one of the theories that may give us a better understanding of how paranormal ability works - in that the mind of man is simply able to see space-time in a non-linear or non-sequential fashion. So perhaps it is Science that has to play catch-up with phenomena previously relegated to the category of the inexplicable and non-quantifiable.

Goodewitch said:
Future wise, I told a girl who was a jobbing actress that she would get work which involved an octopus,.. now that was freaky, even for me to say. She looked at me as if I were mad, but rang weeks later, to say she'd been offered a job to voice the part of an animated kids character, that was.. an octopus.
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Win! XD

So you saw an octopus in your future vision, and it wasn't absolutely clear how the octopus figured in her future job, but still, there was that definite association of an octopus with her future job.

This reminds me of a dream I had that involved terrorists gunning down children in a gym. In my dream, I could see that they were covered in large underwear. Why were they covered in underwear? I couldn't understand the association of underwear with their deaths.

But one year later, my mother told me to watch the news, because a large group of school children had been rounded up in a school gym. They had to be stripped down to their underwear because of the heat in the enclosed building. And then some of the children died when the terrorists opened fire on them. :'(

Only in hindsight does it become absolutely clear how certain symbols or images actually figure in reality.
 
Slayerwolf said:
Whatever I had as a kid was stronger than whatever I have now. I could hear the phone ring 1 or 2 minutes before it rang. I could hear a knock at the door sometimes 5 minutes before someone knocked.
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I had a similar experience three years ago. I woke up to a voice in my dream telling me to get up because I would be receiving a call from a specific future employer. Five minutes later, my cell phone rang. It was the first call I received from that group that eventually hired me. It was also, more importantly, the first indication I had that they actually received my application submitted several months earlier.

As in your past experiences in childhood, the timing was impeccable.

Slayerwolf said:
I could think of a certain odd word and someone would either say that word or I'd hear it on the TV minutes later.
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Been having such experiences as well.

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It's just a theory of mine, but I think that if an INFJ does manifest paranormal ability, his/her Ni simply acts as a screen onto which esoteric knowledge projects itself, and makes itself known to the conscious mind. Certainly, Ni has its own predictive powers, but I think that the other perceptive functions (Ne, Si, and Se) may also serve as media for paranormal ability. Feeling too. And I wouldn't be surprised if Ti served as a medium for apprehending complex other-worldly knowledge. So perhaps our cognitive functions only serve as windows to this type of knowledge.

And to further explain the seeming abundance of gifted INFJs, a possible explanation is that intuitive types are already in touch with unconscious processes which might have an organic basis similar to paranormal cognition. Perhaps, the existence of a well-developed organic pathway in the brain could explain the facility with which a person both intuits and gains an awareness of paranormal phenomena. Tests can be useful in investigating the phenomenon.

I would like to see some lab tests done where psychic test results are compared with the subject's brain waves (alpha, beta, theta, delta and gamma). If it should turn out that paranormal cognition exhibits itself regardless of the predominant brain wave of the subject, then maybe paranormal cognition does not have an organic basis. But if there is some correlation, then perhaps this data could give investigators an invaluable lead.

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It's also very important to remember that it is always easier to prove something than to disprove something. Here is an example of what I think might be a faulty conclusion derived from functional MRI testing:

If ESP were real, the brain should have responded differently to the ESP image -- recognizing it as familiar. But, in all cases, when the researchers compared the scans, they saw precisely the same pattern of brain activation for the ESP and non-ESP images, meaning the brains responded the same.

"Our results showed no difference, and therefore our results are evidence against the existence of ESP," Moulton said.

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Just because a particular kind of machine can't notice the differences in brain activation patterns does not mean ESP can't be proven as real. Maybe there is another machine better suited to the task!
 
I heard it's INFJ's ability to "see tangents everywhere" that makes them appear "psychic" and wise; they are able to easily see connections. That is if you even believe the paranormal.
 
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enfp can be shy said:
I feel very paranormally gifted when I'm inspired, or around INFJs /which is always so inspiring! thank you!!/. It's a feeling, which becomes true, like placebo effect. It's like my brain works in 500% speed. Unfortunately, by now I learned that being like that can cause hurt to some people, even without harming them at all. Just,.. some people are offended if someone is so fast etc, and I don't want to harm anyone. So I intentionally avoid getting myself in such mode now.
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I've noticed that ENFPs can be amazing mental shapeshifters, able to take on the traits of those around them. I've always been fascinated with this ability because I've been somewhat good at it for as long as I can remember, but nothing like the ENFPs I know. I would assume this to be an Ne and Fi trait, with Ne seeing the pattern and Fi mimicing in perfect detail, because this ability seems linked to the proportion of Ne and Fi development in an individual.

I'm glad we can help charge you up with our powers. :-)
 
If I can calibrate first I am able to tell what pictures or sounds someone is experiencing at any given moment.

i.e. Lets say someone has some of those cards with stars and squares and stuff on them. After seeing the person look at each card and then show me which one he is looking at. After that I would be able to tell which card he had in his hand without him showing me. Thereby appearing to be psychic

I shit you not. I can even teach anyone else who is interested. Any takers?
 
:) yeah I think being an INFJ could be connected or related to having like ESP or something.

There are some things that I can kind of do and someone told me it was like remote viewing but I'm kinda confused because I've read something about clairvoyance and that part of what I can do is like a part of clairvoyance.
 
I believe that some people are different than the rest and have some ..... let's call them special abilities and can "see" things that other people can not. They can perceive the world in a different way and have access to information that is hidden to the rest.
I don't know if it is likely for INFJs to be like this, I would not assume things without any statistical evidence.
But INFJs are likely to have it, mostly because of the NF combination.
 
My INFJ wife (of celtic heritage) has always said that the dark rim around her iris (she has incredibly beautiful blue eyes!) portends "second sight." As an INTP, I say, "just show me the data, ma'am." And, man! has she proven her foresight. She is uncanny in her ability to tell the futures of people she knows. She can read my mind (no lie) and, if we weren't married for 33 years, I'd find it really creepy. It's amazing! Thank heaven, INFJ's, and my wife in particular, are so nice and ethical.
 
Norton said:
My INFJ wife (of celtic heritage) has always said that the dark rim around her iris (she has incredibly beautiful blue eyes!) portends "second sight." As an INTP, I say, "just show me the data, ma'am." And, man! has she proven her foresight. She is uncanny in her ability to tell the futures of people she knows. She can read my mind (no lie) and, if we weren't married for 33 years, I'd find it really creepy. It's amazing! Thank heaven, INFJ's, and my wife in particular, are so nice and ethical.
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sadly im not that good. lol
 
Morgain said:
I think that a lot of these paranormal things come from a high Ni or maybe also a high Fi. What they do is "sense" the energy in a place or around a person and know what has happened or know some specific details about that person. I have seen a difference between some paranormal gifted persons that some of them are very much into the "knowing" something, and others into "feeling" something. I would say that the "knowers" use more of Ni while the "feelers" use more of Fi.
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This is an important distinction. I can't relate to "knowing". But I can sometimes sense or feel someone. But I would describe that as Ni, not Fi. It's a type of knowing, but it's a knowing through feeling.
 
I want to believe.

*X-Files theme*
 
There's something called " Hypnagogic jerk" its an involuntary myoclonic twitch just as the subject is beginning to fall asleep.Physically, hypnic jerks resemble the "jump" made when a person is startled often accompanied by a falling sensation. It is commonly caused by irregular sleep schedules.
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i've had these also! scary stuff, i read that this is possibly caused by the part of the brain that paralyzes us when we fall asleep (this is the reason that we don't actually run in our bed when we are running in a dream). sometimes when we attempt to fall asleep, this kicks in before we are ready, thus creating a feeling of paralysis which is usually accompanied by strange voices and vivd hallucinations.

this has happened to me twice, first time it happened i was sleeping over at my ex's parents house, and in the middle of the night i woke up without a reason, just straight woke up, decided to go back to sleep but when i did, i experienced hypnogogia for the first time.

it involved first feeling paralyzed, then a strange ringing in my ears that progressively got louder to the point you can't hear or concentrate on anything else. i lost all track of time, but eventually i envisioned these words in my mind "bring her back" the feeling of paralysis and ringing passed momentarily and then proceeded to happen again. i know this all sounds hard to believe but i am dead serious here.

next morning i told my ex about what happened, and apparently her and her parents were convinced that even before i had come into the picture that they had the ghost of the previous owner inhabiting their house bc weird things usually happened to anyone who stayed the night there. the wife of the man who passed (in the house no less) moved to florida and sold the house to them. thus explaining the message i thought i'd seen.

second time was at my own house and i slept on the couch for the next two nights, i mean these experiences can really be intense and downright scary. apparently they can also be relaxing and soothing for some. at first i thought i was losing it but then i thought, maybe this is a product of the paranormal even though before this i didn't believe in anything like that its better than thinking you're going insane. come to find out this is recognized as a medical problem and i think they give you sleeping pills if it happens regularly.

either way i do still think there is something else at work with these experiences because the first one is just too big of a coincidence.
 
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