INFJs - Messengers and Guardians?

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INFJ
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Messengers

Novellists, poets, songwriters, musicians, card writers, photographers, film directors, mystics, playwrights, designers, arts and crafts, craftsmen etc

Guardians


Educators, Counsellors, Policemen, Philosphers, Soldiers, Humanitarians, Gardeners, Psychologists, Medics, Anthropologists, Librarians etc


With 'Meaning' being the common denominator.


Messenger - communicating self-expression
Guardian - nurturing and protecting the right to be, and be better, for things, nature, people


What do you think?:m075:

Edit: Messenger - delivering a message
 
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I think much of that could apply to any type. Any person of any type can do anything they want to do.
 
I think defining an INFJ by their profession is totally missing the point.
 
I think it's a nice sentiment, but it's true: Any type can be anything. It really depends on what you prefer doing. Me, I love writing but I also like a few of the sciences. But my math skills are so poor I can't do it. And I refuse to increase my math skills just to have some kind of science background.

But no worries; it was a legitimate question, with legitimate thoughts. Many of the typology sites will categorize certain MBTI types with particular professions, but the truth is if you don't like it you won't stay in it.

Do what you love; the rest is secondary.
 
arbygil said:
I think it's a nice sentiment, but it's true: Any type can be anything. It really depends on what you prefer doing. Me, I love writing but I also like a few of the sciences. But my math skills are so poor I can't do it. And I refuse to increase my math skills just to have some kind of science background.

But no worries; it was a legitimate question, with legitimate thoughts. Many of the typology sites will categorize certain MBTI types with particular professions, but the truth is if you don't like it you won't stay in it.

Do what you love; the rest is secondary.
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I always tended to look at those things as "Fields that a certain personality type is likely to prefer" that's not to say they're any better at it than any one else or that they should do anything. It's just somewhat of an idea, I'm an INFJ and a furniture maker those things aren't typically thought of together because I have to use a lot of "Se" in my work. I think the suggestions given for career type might be good however if you don't know what it is you want to do or are thinking of switching professions. I know for me if I was to switch professions I'd be interested in. pharmacology, teaching, psychiatry, or law. That's not to say I'd necessarily be good at any of those things.
 
I do like writing and counseling, but I also like science and inventing. So it's misleading to typecast any personality into a specific role.
 
Arsal said:
Nope, just regular people. Stop it with the pretentious crap.
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Regular people have been INFJ's too.

Sometimes these regular people prefer to do the things other regular people don't do.

It isn't pretentious, it's just the way it is.

All about preferences, choices.
 
Sali said:
I'm an INFJ and a furniture maker those things aren't typically thought of together because I have to use a lot of "Se" in my work.
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No you don't, not necessarily.

Se isn't about using your senses, or even being in the moment, because then everyone would use Se. Ni is just as capable of being in the moment as Se, it's just tuned to a different frequency and Se is tuned to a frequency as well, which isn't just current reality.

There is cognitive processes (as defined in cognitive science today) as faculties of the brain that help us interact with reality; then there are cognitive functions of the psyche which is a whole different thing from what I see. The existance of a person's personality is not really definable but it is pervasive and has substance- that's what Jung was defining in people.

And yes you could say "a personality is a bunch of attitudes and behaviours that make us who we are" but Jung's functions aren't that either, are they?
 
Orion said:
No you don't, not necessarily.

Se isn't about using your senses, or even being in the moment, because then everyone would use Se. Ni is just as capable of being in the moment as Se, it's just tuned to a different frequency and Se is tuned to a frequency as well, which isn't just current reality.
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Hmmm, interesting. I think I actually meant Si rather than Se reading through some definitions now. (I get confused on the functions occasionally.) However your point still does stand. What I'd be most curious about is how one would differentiate between whether something is Si or Ni? Being that they seem to serve the same purposes but go about it in different ways or maybe I'm looking at it wrong somehow.
 
Orion said:
No you don't, not necessarily.

Se isn't about using your senses, or even being in the moment, because then everyone would use Se. Ni is just as capable of being in the moment as Se, it's just tuned to a different frequency and Se is tuned to a frequency as well, which isn't just current reality.

There is cognitive processes (as defined in cognitive science today) as faculties of the brain that help us interact with reality; then there are cognitive functions of the psyche which is a whole different thing from what I see. The existance of a person's personality is not really definable but it is pervasive and has substance- that's what Jung was defining in people.

And yes you could say "a personality is a bunch of attitudes and behaviours that make us who we are" but Jung's functions aren't that either, are they?
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OMG! It's string theory all up in this MBTI.
 
Considering that any personality type can only be defined by its tendencies over time and across the entire spectrum of its members, the only way to define a type is through its tendencies. Making the assumption that the description of tendencies is a description of the extent of a type would be the same as assuming that INFJs can't extrovert, sense, or think.

Let's have some perspective. Anyone can do anything. Type simply defines tendencies.

INFJs are also often described as Protectors, Counselors, Sages, and Psychics. These words are applied to INFJ to help people understand the type better than with a collection of letters that people new to the personality type systems have no frame of reference for.

Which paints a clearer and more memorable image? "FI7D9" or "Athlete"?
 
Remember that people are people, have been and will continue to be people regardless of the tools employed.
No type is inherently "better" at a thing than another.
 
corndogman said:
INFJ: Plumber, Janitor, Weightlifter, Actor, Arsonist, Professional axe thrower, grave digger, politician.
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Psychic.



people always forget the psychics.




While I think a certain type is definitely prone to do one type of career over another, there are other factors. An NFP may do accounting despite the heavy/si/te whatevs in order to feed their family etc.


I'm an ENFJ, going to Human Resources.
 
saru said:
Psychic.

people always forget the psychics.
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Even the psychics...

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