Well, let's hear your counter-arguments!It's weird how wrong you are about basically everything
Well, let's hear your counter-arguments!
If that's a synonym to asking for logical counter-arguments. We both know you can't just make a claim like that without supporting it. We're having an intellectual conversation. You're being unreasonably dismissive.Nah, I'm good.
I try not to waste my time on people who enjoy stirring pots.
I now realize that my wording can be understood as insulting. I am sorry for my unthinking bluntness. I am not here to insult anyone, and I hope nobody else is either. I want peace, and I wanted to say the truth.There's nothing intellectual about insulting a whole group of people that you don't even know.
From a photographers standpoint you probably should take that avi pic of Dr. Grande down, as well, considering going about on a forum using his likeness is illegal.I now realize that my wording can be understood as insulting. I am sorry for my unthinking bluntness. I am not here to insult anyone, and I hope nobody else is either. I want peace, and I wanted to say the truth.
I see. I will change it - thanks.From a photographers standpoint you probably should take that avi pic of Dr. Grande down, as well, considering going about on a forum using his likeness is illegal.
But what is useless conflict - or useless anything? Each person has their own motivation and also their own logical process.Perhaps there is a lesson to be learned here. INFJs like every other personality type are flawed humans. I don't recall anyone ever claiming to be anything else.
But the one take away perhaps for this thread is that INFJs as a whole will fiercely stand up and defend the right and do not back down when they are in that right.
I think as a whole INFJs also do not engage in useless conflict.
Just my thoughts
Just reading through the thread, I'm afraid that your statement can't possibly lead directly to a rational discussion because it's simply a set of your opinions stated without any supporting evidence, and couched in quite censorious value judgement terms of your own that can only provoke a negative response - also couched in the same value judgemental framework. It sounds like you didn't intend it to be a general criticism of all INFJs but the way you expressed yourself does seem to imply that healthy INFJs are very much the exception.Hi there! INFJs are highly affectively empathetic, yet their intentions are usually selfish and callous - behaviorally highly manipulative. How many times I've seen it: I criticize an INFJ's behavior due to it being counterproductive, and instantly they get passive-aggressive, because they have no integrity or candor. They don't listen to the logic, yet they manage to fixate on their hurt feelings like they mean something in the real world. An INFJ is more likely to leave someone angry at the world to die alone, than to stay with them to help. That is because they only think of themselves, and have no good intention of wanting to help others when they actually need help, and when the INFJ actually has to do more work than just pretending to listen. INFJs are great protectors, but with most of them only when it comes to keeping their own feelings in a safe bubble. They don't criticize others, because they're scared they'll have to feel the other's anger through empathy. They are scared of making other people feel anything negative, only because it directly affects them. A mature INFJ is the opposite of this, and they will speak the truth regardless of how it makes others feel.
Thoughts?
Well, I can't say if they're the exception or not, but I've seen much more of the unhealthy ones.Just reading through the thread, I'm afraid that your statement can't possibly lead directly to a rational discussion because it's simply a set of your opinions stated without any supporting evidence, and couched in quite censorious value judgement terms of your own that can only provoke a negative response - also couched in the same value judgemental framework. It sounds like you didn't intend it to be a general criticism of all INFJs but the way you expressed yourself does seem to imply that healthy INFJs are very much the exception.
But that very likely says more about you than INFJs as a whole, and the kind of social interactions you have. For example, many of the folks I have contact with are physically unwell in some way, but then I'm in my early 70s and mix mainly with older people who inevitably are less healthy than younger ones. It would be a grave mistake if I concluded that everyone had the same sort of health as the over 65s.Well, I can't say if they're the exception or not, but I've seen much more of the unhealthy ones.
We're having an intellectual conversation
Seriously though, don't come and ruin other people's serious conversation, if you aren't going to be serious.I never agreed to that