Obama to be removed GA ballot?

A certain vocal political element might want Obama to removed from the ballot, but there is no way he is actually going to be removed. Not happening, mere political showboating.

(p.s. I can pretty well assure you he is ignoring the subpoena.)


And this is in no way a reflection on anyone's political views. You have my permission to knock me over with a feather if Obama actually gets removed from the GA ballot.
 
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Georgia is so pretty this time of year.
 
And people cited legitimate legal reasons they wanted Bush impeached, yet 8 years later...
 
The judge didn't want to take the heat and is letting an appellate court do it. The judge is probably elected or, if not, then appointed locally, and their constituency probably consists of anti-Obama folk. It is what I would likely do in a similar situation regardless of my political beliefs or the legitimacy of the case. By letting the appellate court hear the issue, they don't face loosing their post either via an angry electorate or because an angry electorate put created political pressure to have them removed (or, more likely, not renewed).

In other words, the case means nothing.
 
It does sound really dumb doesn't it?
 
Of course he was born in the US...

I don't understand this train of thought at all. Of course are presidents histories are looked into long before they get into that position.
 
http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/01/26/court-hearing-on-obama-eligibility-completed-now-what/

For those who have long contested the validity of Barack Obama’s eligibility to run for President of the United States, the legal hearing in Georgia earlier today was the first true and legitimate forum upon which to prove that case. The question remains though – now what?

The evidence and arguments raised by the ineligible proponents were compelling. They included the following as entered into the legal record:

-Barack Obama Sr. was not a United States citizen at the time of Barack Obama’s birth. This claim is substantiated not only be Barack Obama’s own words, but immigration documents as well.

-Barack Obama Sr’s non-citizen status would potentially disqualify Barack Obama from holding the office of U.S. President if the following definition is applied:
To be a natural born citizen, one must have 2 parents who, at the time of the birth in question, be citizens of the United States. As Obama’s father was not a citizen, the argument is that Obama, constitutionally, is ineligible to serve as President.

-The Democratic National Committee’s own election certification language never indicated the eligibility status of Barack Obama – while the RNC language did. The discrepancy has never been fully explained by those involved. (Nancy Pelosi etc.)

-Barack Obama’s Social Security number appears to be fraudulent – or if not, legal representatives for Obama have yet to explain the discrepancy:
The number used or attached to Obama in 1979, sows that Obama was born in the 1890. This shows that the number was originally assigned to someone else who was indeed born in 1890 and should never have been used by Obama.

-A document imaging expert indicated the following regarding the released image of Barack Obama’s birth certificate:
The birth certificate, posted online by Obama, is suspicious. States white lines around all the type face is caused by “unsharp mask” in photo shop. Testifies that any document showing this, is considered to be a fraud.

-Information pertaining to Mr. Sotoroe who adopted Barack Obama, has been redacted from immigration records – a highly unusual occurrence.
It should be noted that Barack Obama’s legal representatives simply ignored this morning’s hearing. Such an act is an obvious attempt to dismiss the claims of those who testified in the matter as some silly sideshow undeserving of any attention.

That tone will surely change though if Judge Michael Malihi’s impending ruling gives any legal support for the eligibility claims issued in court today. The courage to make such a ruling would be considerable, and would certainly face immediate and aggressive legal challenge by the Obama administration.
 
Sriracha said:
-Barack Obama Sr’s non-citizen status would potentially disqualify Barack Obama from holding the office of U.S. President if the following definition is applied:
To be a natural born citizen, one must have 2 parents who, at the time of the birth in question, be citizens of the United States. As Obama’s father was not a citizen, the argument is that Obama, constitutionally, is ineligible to serve as President.
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Not exactly. The Constitution never states what a natural-born citizen actually means. Historically and legally speaking, anyone born on US soil (other than diplomat's children) are considered citizens, as are those abroad to 1 US citizen. Just because his father isn't does not void the possibility that Obama is legally a citizen. There really is no constitutional argument about this other than whether or not he is a natural born citizen. The definition of "natural born" is what is up to debate. Legal and historical precedent would say that he is a natural born citizen.
 
[MENTION=1009]bamf[/MENTION] Yes, most of us are aware of that. Just quoting the article.

Off to watch the FL Republican Debate ... :D (I hear should be pretty interesting between Mitt and Newt)
 
Sriracha said:
http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/01/26/court-hearing-on-obama-eligibility-completed-now-what/

For those who have long contested the validity of Barack Obama’s eligibility to run for President of the United States, the legal hearing in Georgia earlier today was the first true and legitimate forum upon which to prove that case. The question remains though – now what?

The evidence and arguments raised by the ineligible proponents were compelling. They included the following as entered into the legal record:

-Barack Obama Sr. was not a United States citizen at the time of Barack Obama’s birth. This claim is substantiated not only be Barack Obama’s own words, but immigration documents as well.

-Barack Obama Sr’s non-citizen status would potentially disqualify Barack Obama from holding the office of U.S. President if the following definition is applied:
To be a natural born citizen, one must have 2 parents who, at the time of the birth in question, be citizens of the United States. As Obama’s father was not a citizen, the argument is that Obama, constitutionally, is ineligible to serve as President.

-The Democratic National Committee’s own election certification language never indicated the eligibility status of Barack Obama – while the RNC language did. The discrepancy has never been fully explained by those involved. (Nancy Pelosi etc.)

-Barack Obama’s Social Security number appears to be fraudulent – or if not, legal representatives for Obama have yet to explain the discrepancy:
The number used or attached to Obama in 1979, sows that Obama was born in the 1890. This shows that the number was originally assigned to someone else who was indeed born in 1890 and should never have been used by Obama.

-A document imaging expert indicated the following regarding the released image of Barack Obama’s birth certificate:
The birth certificate, posted online by Obama, is suspicious. States white lines around all the type face is caused by “unsharp mask” in photo shop. Testifies that any document showing this, is considered to be a fraud.

-Information pertaining to Mr. Sotoroe who adopted Barack Obama, has been redacted from immigration records – a highly unusual occurrence.
It should be noted that Barack Obama’s legal representatives simply ignored this morning’s hearing. Such an act is an obvious attempt to dismiss the claims of those who testified in the matter as some silly sideshow undeserving of any attention.

That tone will surely change though if Judge Michael Malihi’s impending ruling gives any legal support for the eligibility claims issued in court today. The courage to make such a ruling would be considerable, and would certainly face immediate and aggressive legal challenge by the Obama administration.
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99% of those claims are all BS. According to most of that, you coudl take any person in this country and claim they weren't citizens. Hell, even I wouldn't pass that citizenship test - my great-grandfather illegally snuck into this country and changed his name. That one act would negate half my family from citizenship.

Take it a step further and all these rednecks can kiss their citizenship goodbye as well since this entire country was founded by illegal immigrants. Face it, unless you're a Native American, you're illegal!
 
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99% of those claims are all BS. According to most of that, you coudl take any person in this country and claim they weren't citizens. Hell, even I wouldn't pass that citizenship test - my great-grandfather illegally snuck into this country and changed his name. That one act would negate half my family from citizenship.

Take it a step further and all these rednecks can kiss their citizenship goodbye as well since this entire country was founded by illegal immigrants. Face it, unless you're a Native American, you're illegal!
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You have to remember that they are looking to see if he fits into the definition of presidential qualification (i.e. if his parents fit citizenship requirements.)

Note the wording: "Barack Obama Sr’s non-citizen status would potentially disqualify Barack Obama from holding the office of U.S. President IF the following definition is applied:
To be a natural born citizen, one must have 2 parents who, at the time of the birth in question, be citizens of the United States. As Obama’s father was not a citizen, the argument is that Obama, constitutionally, is ineligible to serve as President."

I'm not sure where this definition came from or if it is even valid. It doesn't matter if everyone thinks the lawsuit is b.s. (I personally don't care that much b/c I won't vote for him anyway, but I am a resident of Georgia.) To me, not taking The Constitution seriously is a HUGE matter (no matter WHO you are.)

One other thing: This transplant will tell you that the south is NOT full of rednecks and if you are implying that they are at all uneducated or racist then I would challenge you to see how well Herman Cain gained popularity before he dropped out.
 
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I don't know where that definition came from either, but I know it is not valid.

Having a mother who was a US citizen (and who had not yet left the US at age 19, so she had definitely lived here more ten 5 years 2 of which after age 14) means that Obama is a natural born citizen no matter who his father is or where he was born. (Oddly enough, if his parents were not married then his mother would have only had to spend a single year in the US.) There is a a double standard in the statutes (designed to prevent children born to American GIs in the Korean and Vietnamese wars from claiming citizenship) that could cause issues if the one parent that was a citizen was his father, but that is not relevant here.


I too am a Georgia resident (and native) who will certainly not be voting for Obama. I'm rather embarrassed that a judge in our state is actually willing to go along with this Birther nonsense (and even more embarrassed that some YouTube videos someone forwarded him seems to have convinced by father of it), although it would be pretty amusing if he were removed from our primary.


I'm usually much stricter than most about adhering to a strict interpretation of the constitution, but this is just about the stupidest constitutional argument imaginable. The natural born citizenship requirement is one of the sillier parts of the constitution, which I think ought to be amended. I remain of the opinion that granting anyone natural born citizenship based on anything is wrong. Citizenship should not be something automatic that gives some individuals special rights based on happenstance of birth, but rather a written contract entered only with informed consent.
 
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Shockingly there is a good chance Georgia will lead the nation in banning Balack Obam

Sriracha said:
You have to remember that they are looking to see if he fits into the definition of presidential qualification (i.e. if his parents fit citizenship requirements.)

Note the wording: "Barack Obama Sr
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Sali said:
Of course he was born in the US...

I don't understand this train of thought at all. Of course are presidents histories are looked into long before they get into that position.
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Everyone knows that all black people are born in other countries.
 
What the hell?

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Doesn't matter to me, I'm voting Saxon this year.
 
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