Racialy biased exit pole...opinions?

I wish I could be surprised or upset about this kind of thing coming out of South Carolina.
 
It's hard to judge a poll like this. I don't feel like his questions were attempting to lead the respondent in a particular direction, they were meant to ask if the respondent already leaned that way. If the poll showed a significant percentage of respondents agreed with those statements, then I think it would be appropriate to judge the respondents, and perhaps their culture and institutions that may be influenced by that.

The problem with a poll is it is very difficult to ask an open-ended question. They can't ask "What do you feel about black voters?" and then leave a blank box for people to fill in. First off, no one would do it (it's hard enough to get people to fill in free text fields on Internet polls when people are not in a hurry to get to work). Second, it's very hard to properly measure the results, since the answers can be given in too many different ways. So the pollster has to make close-ended questions that can be easily and quickly answered with a check in the right box, but then there comes another problem. In a close-ended question, the respondent only has the offered answers to choose from. If the question is vague in any way or can be interpreted different ways, then the results are not trustworthy. To solve for that, pollsters often rely on questions that are extreme and can't be misinterpreted. In the case of this exit poll, that seems to be what the pollster was doing. It's really hard to misinterpret the question, especially since those questions have been subtly "asked" by conservatives for years now in the form of anonymous callers into right-wing radio programs and "expert" pundits on Fox News.

I understand the reaction to reading these blunt statements. In a perfect world, everyone would check the "disagree" box and this question would be a waste of space. But this isn't a perfect world, and the question is all too pertinent. For the response quotes at the end of the article, I would have said:

“Some of the questions are offensive in nature and the questions aren’t even about me, because I am White. But Black people voted in this election as well, and were asked these same questions,” one woman wrote of her experience. “A person could literally have just passed four confederate flags on the way to vote only to be asked if “Blacks” are too demanding for their push for equal rights?!?”

I think if being white meant you had no stance on those questions, our country would be a much better place. But the problem is white people do hold stances on the rights of other races, either directly or indirectly. As for the confederate flags, if that tells you the answer is "disagree", then that's the box I would check. Unfortunately, those who probably put up those flags might have a different answer, and that is the problem.

“I know there are other people who took the poll and were offended and as confused as I was. Concerned citizens must stand up to people in our community who don’t seem to realize the impact these racist questions will have, especially on people of color,” she added. “We were told this was an exit poll, not a survey about race, and that in itself is deceptive.”

Compare the impact of these questions with the impact of no one talking about this at all. I think these questions are not the problem, and the fact that they offended this person shows that this is not a "non-issue". Also, the questions aren't really a survey about race; they are actual political positions more bluntly stated. And some of the politicians who took those positions won elections that night.

Consider question "L" on the image that is not circled, but shows a different perspective:
Generations of slavery and discrimination have created conditions that make it difficult for blacks to work their way out of the lower class. Agree Disagree

Why is it any less offensive that this question has a "Disagree" box than that the former questions had an "Agree" box? While people are getting offended that they are merely asked to respond to these questions, there are those who deal with discrimination every day, and that is where they should be getting offended. I think for a lot of people the offensiveness was in having to discuss a problem they don't have and that they'd feel more comfortable just ignoring.
 
The problem is that for some reason the wording reads a lot like "Them niggers is always pushing for shit they don't deserve to have."
 
The problem is that for some reason the wording reads a lot like "Them niggers is always pushing for shit they don't deserve to have."

That's how the average South Carolinian speaks though, for real.
 
first learn the proper terminology. Exit poll.
 
Sorry but this isnt coming from a valid news source. In all likelihood it was created to get a rise out of people and is not representative of a factual exit poll.
 
Sorry but this isnt coming from a valid news source. In all likelihood it was created to get a rise out of people and is not representative of a factual exit poll.

Hmm... Possibly, but it seems like a credible source. They are citing a local news source WSPA:

http://www.wspa.com/story/27294393/exit-poll-angers-some-sc-voters

WSPA hasn't pulled the story yet, as I would expect if they found they had been duped. Plus, it has that sort of "we'll blow it out of proportion, but you can decide if it is news" brand of investigative reporting that is usually the hallmark of legit local news. Are you sure this is fake?
 
Hmm... Possibly, but it seems like a credible source. They are citing a local news source WSPA:

http://www.wspa.com/story/27294393/exit-poll-angers-some-sc-voters

WSPA hasn't pulled the story yet, as I would expect if they found they had been duped. Plus, it has that sort of "we'll blow it out of proportion, but you can decide if it is news" brand of investigative reporting that is usually the hallmark of legit local news. Are you sure this is fake?
No I cant say its fake. Only that the single source given doeent seem like a legit news source.
 
You've got to be kidding! How can they get away with that in this day and age?

Are you kidding? have you any idea what they are getting away with in this day and age?!!!!!!

Voting machine caught committing fraud

[video=youtube;YtbqebpV9vY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtbqebpV9vY[/video]
 
Are you kidding? have you any idea what they are getting away with in this day and age?!!!!!!

Voting machine caught committing fraud

[video=youtube;YtbqebpV9vY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtbqebpV9vY[/video]

I get that. I know there is corruption and fraud but they try to hide that. What I am surprised about is that it was so blatant.
 
First why is this title also misspelled?

second, I don't think the poll is bad at all. I don't see how you can be offended by asking a question. White people love being offended for them poor minorities.
 
I get that. I know there is corruption and fraud but they try to hide that. What I am surprised about is that it was so blatant.

lol

I've been marvelling at the blatant criminality for years!

Its going on across all fronts of our society and foreign policy and yet some parts of the public are still so hypnotised by the mainstream media that they are repeating their programmed mantra:

''it's a conspiracy theory'', ''it's a conspiracy theory''
 
Are you kidding? have you any idea what they are getting away with in this day and age?!!!!!!

Voting machine caught committing fraud

[video=youtube;YtbqebpV9vY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtbqebpV9vY[/video]

Um, well, except sometimes it is a conspiracy theory...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/31/illinois-voter-machine-switching_n_6083064.html

I voted Tuesday and my county uses paper ballots still where you fill in the circle with pen ink, then put the ballot in a machine that sucks it up and counts the vote. A lady in front of me put her paper ballot in the machine, and the machine spit it back out again. She called an attendant over and, after looking over the ballot, she had apparently voted for both candidates in one of the races. It was an honest mistake, she was given a new ballot, and I assume everything was hunky dory. I really thought that it was an honest mistake, but could the paper have been rigged? Hey, it's just a question.

My own conspiracy theory is that this video was staged by shooting at an odd angle. The very tip of the finger is clearly over the line towards the Democrat. What, exactly, would prompt someone to video tape their vote, anyway?

And like all conspiracy theories, mine has an ulterior motive:

The voting machine allegations prompted the Illinois Republican Party to issue a "voting fraud alert" robocall on Thursday, the Capitol Fax blog reported.

"Don’t let the Democrats steal this election," said a recording by Tim Schneider, Chairman of the Illinois Republican Party, according to Capitol Fax. "Get out and vote, and help us stop voter fraud."

Yes. Don't let anyone steal the election. Interesting how many hits are covering this story:

https://www.google.com/search?q=are....22795j1j1&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8

As opposed to the racist exit poll. Breitbart.com and ijreview.com are right at the top, clearly making sure their Republican readers in Rock Island County (and the rest of the country) know about this issue.

In the end, it looks like Democrats did indeed carry the county. Is this evidence that the election was stolen? Hey, it's just a question!
 
Yeah this last election that ousted so many Democrats had a huge amount of machines turning Republican votes to Democrat. In one instance the Republican went in to vote for himself only to have his vote change to Democrat in front of his eyes.

Our voting system is severely messed up. Its one of the things the government is responsible for and should be responsible for making sure every vote counts and yet thats not happening. The American people should be much more angry and concerned about this then they appear to be.
 
Um, well, except sometimes it is a conspiracy theory...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/31/illinois-voter-machine-switching_n_6083064.html

I voted Tuesday and my county uses paper ballots still where you fill in the circle with pen ink, then put the ballot in a machine that sucks it up and counts the vote. A lady in front of me put her paper ballot in the machine, and the machine spit it back out again. She called an attendant over and, after looking over the ballot, she had apparently voted for both candidates in one of the races. It was an honest mistake, she was given a new ballot, and I assume everything was hunky dory. I really thought that it was an honest mistake, but could the paper have been rigged? Hey, it's just a question.

My own conspiracy theory is that this video was staged by shooting at an odd angle. The very tip of the finger is clearly over the line towards the Democrat. What, exactly, would prompt someone to video tape their vote, anyway?

And like all conspiracy theories, mine has an ulterior motive:



Yes. Don't let anyone steal the election. Interesting how many hits are covering this story:

https://www.google.com/search?q=are....22795j1j1&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8

As opposed to the racist exit poll. Breitbart.com and ijreview.com are right at the top, clearly making sure their Republican readers in Rock Island County (and the rest of the country) know about this issue.

In the end, it looks like Democrats did indeed carry the county. Is this evidence that the election was stolen? Hey, it's just a question!
A prompt would be if someone heard the votes were being changed and wanted to record it. Or if you just wanted to video your vote.

But you also say Democrats carried the country? I dont understand this. They lost and lost big. Republicans have more seats now then since the 1930s.
I am not fond of all Republican policies but I dislike Democrats eeven more. For me its always the lesser of two evils. All I know is that as an American citizen every vote should count and be accurate and every vote should come from only alive American citizens.
 
The American people should be much more angry and concerned about this then they appear to be.

I completely agree with you there. Even the allegation of votes being improperly counted is an affront to everything we stand for. But then so is lying, cheating and manipulating to get elected.

All of these are not just Democratic or Republican issues, they are American issues and Americans should all be outraged equally. When one side spins it as the other side's trick, people attack the other side rather than the issue itself...
 
But you also say Democrats carried the country? I dont understand this. They lost and lost big. Republicans have more seats now then since the 1930s.

No no. County, not country. I know the Democrats lost big country wide. But in this small county, where this problem allegedly was, the senator, governor and AG on the Democratic side got more of their votes.

I am not fond of all Republican policies but I dislike Democrats eeven more. For me its always the lesser of two evils.

And that's the big problem, right? We can't vote for the "no evil even at all" because we don't have that choice. This is especially true if each side spins things like this "voter fraud" as a trick from the other side.

All I know is that as an American citizen every vote should count and be accurate and every vote should come from only alive American citizens.

Amen. And there should be nothing to restrict certain people from voting due to the fact they have to work two jobs and the lines at the polling stations are around the block.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/10/minority-voters-election-long-lines-id
 
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