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Everybody starts as an atheist before being indoctrinated into a faith.
I would have guessed that everyone starts as an indifferent agnostic until they decide what they believe.
Everybody starts as an atheist before being indoctrinated into a faith.
Flavus Aquila said:I may continue to ask questions of atheists, which may seem to weigh its merit, but this is because I wish to understand it better (I have never been an atheist) - and then post what differences I note between it and my monotheism. Unless you @TheLastMohican: , think discussions about differences in world-view are best conducted from ignorance.
Agnosticism is defined by a certain attitude towards knowledge (that God's existence, and often a lot of other things, are inherently unknowable, and according to some, inherently at 50% probability). Children's brains work with absolutes. I'd say everyone starts out as an implicit atheist, and switches to an explicit belief before long. (Of course many children do catch on to agnostic principles later on.)I would have guessed that everyone starts as an indifferent agnostic until they decide what they believe.
I am not entirely sure that's a good fit, that is if we're talking about children who haven't entertained the concept. I am not sure I would see them as atheist in any different sense than my pet rabbit would be. On the other hand, they are more capable of entertaining the concept, but I am not really sure I would call that atheist either, unless perhaps you are talking about a brief period between the conceptualization, and accepting their parent's views.I'd say everyone starts out as an implicit atheist, and switches to an explicit belief before long.
You're describing the difference between implicit and explicit atheism. Implicit atheism is simply a lack of theism due to being unfamiliar with the concept of theism. Explicit atheism is a lack of theism (or, in some cases, a specific denial of theism) after being introduced to the concept.I am not entirely sure that's a good fit, that is if we're talking about children who haven't entertained the concept. I am not sure I would see them as atheist in any different sense than my pet rabbit would be. On the other hand, they are more capable of entertaining the concept, but I am not really sure I would call that atheist either, unless perhaps you are talking about a brief period between the conceptualization, and accepting their parent's views.
I just submitted Quinlan's post to Reddit:
http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/cnqz1/monsters_in_the_bedroom_closet_analogies_for/
You're describing the difference between implicit and explicit atheism. Implicit atheism is simply a lack of theism due to being unfamiliar with the concept of theism. Explicit atheism is a lack of theism (or, in some cases, a specific denial of theism) after being introduced to the concept.
I chose pantheistic because, by the webster definition of the term, it seems to be the best fit with my beliefs. However, I'm somewhat riding the fence between that and agnostic... sad, as riding the fence is quite painful on the goods.
Ride the fence, to the lake, the ancient lake.....doesn't have the same archetypal impact really
What about Bi-Thiesm and Tri-Theism?
eitherway, I'm a Christian Thiest.
What about Bi-Thiesm and Tri-Theism?
eitherway, I'm a Christian Thiest.
I'm an atheist and secular humanist. I pray to the church of me each week with my therapist. She is my confessor, my priest, my guidance counselor and sherpa through the mountainous wilderness of my emotional state. I am the ultimate power in my universe.
Anything more than one, is Polytheism. And we don't need to know what flavour theist you are, just the differences between the stated ones.
This is not a thread about the differences in theism, if you want a thread for that, create it.