Should service/military dogs be considered "heroes"?

Where is the dislike button? What happened to it?
 
Stu said:
so like, if you serve in the military for four years, for whatever reason, you are entitled to socialistic medical care for life, but if you do the same for the peace corp or teach for america or vista its like "thanks for nuthin"

most of the work in the military is bullshit
most of the work in the peace corp and vista is vital
so.....what the fuck?
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Both are paid for by the department of defense so ....
 
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As usual, I am telling you that you're wrong.
 
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The peace corp is part of the State Department, The military is paid for by the Defense Department, they are different Departments.
 
Stu said:
The peace corp is part of the State Department, The military is paid for by the Defense Department, they are different Departments.
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Nope.
 
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I think I am still a little drunk, you are more dopey then dope.
 
I think hero worship is like Bakhtinian carnivalesque. (Sorry, not that I have actually read any Bakhtin, just had his theory about carnival repeatedly instructed at me secondhand.) I think this is mainly a distraction mechanism from the moral ambiguity involved in most hero acts that functions to maintain established social institutions, in this case the law enforcement institution and its place in society. I think this partly because of the vast number of altruistic and self-sacrificing acts that go unrecognised; the selection of the "hero" seems so arbitrary.

I once read about a blind cat named "Homer" who fought off his human's would-be-attacker, and I thought there was something pretty cool about that story.
 
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This raises some thoughts for me about Jack London's novels, particularly "White Fang", and the great love and respect that London had for animals as being not really that different from humans.
 
invisible said:
I think hero worship is like Bakhtinian carnivalesque. (Sorry, not that I have actually read any Bakhtin, just had his theory about carnival repeatedly instructed at me secondhand.) I think this is mainly a distraction mechanism from the moral ambiguity involved in most hero acts that functions to maintain established social institutions, in this case the law enforcement institution and its place in society. I think this partly because of the vast number of altruistic and self-sacrificing acts that go unrecognised; the selection of the "hero" seems so arbitrary.

I once read about a blind cat named "Homer" who fought off his human's would-be-attacker, and I thought there was something pretty cool about that story.
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nice name dropping, how about a link to said theory...are you derailing my derailment?
 
Stu said:
nice name dropping, how about a link to said theory...are you derailing my derailment?
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A link? I aint no Honours student.

The idea that was explained to me is that there were regularly scheduled carnival events in the medieval social calendar which acted to subvert authority (eg, people dressing up as authority figures for Halloween), which by giving the appearance of the possibility of subversion, actually strengthened the power of authority at all other times. People think they're so subversive during the carnival, but if they're playing along with the authority at all other times, what does it really count for?

I think the hero dog is similar. What about all the other dogs who gave their lives to the military? Were they not enough of a good boy in their giving of their lives in order to be called a hero?

I'm always trying to derail you btw.
 
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invisible said:
This raises some thoughts for me about Jack London's novels, particularly "White Fang", and the great love and respect that London had for animals as being not really that different from humans.
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Call of the Wild, was one of the first books I read more than once.
 
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