Should we go to war with Russia to save the economy?

[just me]

Putin, may God and His legions blind your mind.

 

[slant]

For those of you who were like me and knew very little about what this whole Ukraine conflict is about, this was a lecture by a professor done 8 years ago that was very helpful

 

[David Nelson]

 

[Roses In The Vineyard]

 

[Roses In The Vineyard]

 

[David Nelson]

Russian miscalculation goes very deep. He offends all common morality and common sense. His power has gone to his head and his hubris is astronomical. He's going the way of all tyrants.

 

[Roses In The Vineyard]

Translation: Mother - Ljosha how are you, why didn’t you write for so long? Are you really at a practice?

Loshja - Mama I am not at practice anymore I am not in Crimea

Mother - Where are you??! Papa asks if he can send you a package.

Loshja - What package Mama? I just wanna hang myself.* (corrected)

Mother - What are you talking about? What happened?

Loshja - Mama I am in Ukraine. Here is a real war happening. I am afraid, we fuck up everything here. Even the peaceful (people)*. We were told they would greet us with open arms but they are not welcoming us they are throwing themselves under our tanks, not letting us pass, calling us fascists. Mama is is really tough. *corrected

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97-year-old from Volyn, Ukraine. The sign says "I survived Hitler and the Germans. I was at the reconstruction of Donbas. I will survive Putin and his locusts. Glory to Ukraine.”

 

[aeon]

@Roses In The Vineyard

I really appreciate the content you are aggregating and bringing here.

Thanks,
Ian

 

[Roses In The Vineyard]

lol, that tank would actually be useful for farming, it could pull things out of mud awesome. I'd definitely take it home. If it had any sort of security you could bypass it fairly easily by ripping out all the electronics and putting in simple motor controllers, steering could be complicated though.

Here you go a quick guide how to drive one of these. https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/t3k9u0/ukrainians_are_uploading_videos_on_tiktok_about/

 

[Roses In The Vineyard]

 

[Roses In The Vineyard]

 

[Roses In The Vineyard]

Politics

 

[Roses In The Vineyard]

Over the past few days I've come across a lot of videos of both civilian and military causalities some of which were beyond horrendous so below is one such example.

If one is of a weak temperament or at work read the comments before watching.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/t3hukp/phone_camera_footage_recovered_from_the_occupants/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/t2ihg8/russian_invaders_killed_civilian_family_and_dogs/

 

[Roses In The Vineyard]

 

[Enso]

Politics

That was legit informative, I truly hope this isn't the leadup to a world war.

 

[David Nelson]

I spoke to a politically clued up guy on same page as me but knows Ukraine history unlike me. He informed me that Ukraine does have a serious Nazi problem and they have killed many Russians in Ukraine. Many of you may know this already.
But, that doesn’t justify what Putin is doing. I notice mention of illegal cluster bombs used but I have read that they were used in Iraq (including some containing uranium or similar- gulf war syndrome) but mainstream media didn’t report it. Truth is always the hardest thing to find, even harder than WMD.

 

[Enso]

I spoke to a politically clued up guy on same page as me but knows Ukraine history unlike me. He informed me that Ukraine does have a serious Nazi problem.

I'm not following you, I'm not very intelligent with geopolitics/history, what do you mean I thought that was a thing for 1945?

 

[David Nelson]

I'm not following you, I'm not very intelligent with geopolitics/history, what do you mean I thought that was a thing for 1945?

There are neo-nazi groups in Ukraine. I’ll get a link…
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary-idUSKBN1GV2TY

 

[David Nelson]

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blo...iolence-and-no-rt-didn-t-write-this-headline/

 

[John K]

I spoke to a politically clued up guy on same page as me but knows Ukraine history unlike me. He informed me that Ukraine does have a serious Nazi problem and they have killed many Russians in Ukraine. Many of you may know this already.
But, that doesn’t justify what Putin is doing. I notice mention of illegal cluster bombs used but I have read that they were used in Iraq (including some containing uranium or similar- gulf war syndrome) but mainstream media didn’t report it. Truth is always the hardest thing to find, even harder than WMD.

Yeah! Sadly our media and politicians dress up the truth too. It’s best not to take the polarising rhetoric too much to heart. I’d say Russia is very badly in the wrong in this war based on their methods, but it wouldn’t at all surprise me to find that their reasons for starting it are not all megalomaniac nonsense. I expect the real truth is messy and unpalatable.