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Yes, I’ve heard you drone on about this. I am once again giving you feedback to let you know you have misunderstood. If you want to hold your position, that’s fine. You’ve made it evidently clear you do not listen, either by deficit, or will.
And true, I have no faith. I am a reasonable human being.
Please take your moral hegemony and begone.
I mean, by going on and on about it after being told you are not understanding the situation. Do you want to know you are right? Believe what you like, and rest secure in the knowledge that’s none of my business.
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@TomasM
Your earlier comment about AI integration with social media gave me an idea. I asked AI to look at this thread from my first post about Charlie Kirk’s death going forward, as that’s when things seemed to get a bit spicy. I wondered if there was a dominant theme.
You may find it interesting and relevant.
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While biblical Christianity recognizes that believers will face real suffering and persecution, it condemns a victim mentality that is self-focused, blames others, and refuses personal responsibility. The Christian worldview distinguishes between legitimate victimhood, which is real and unjust, and the destructive victim mentality that hinders spiritual growth and contradicts the gospel.
What a victim mentality is (and isn't)
Victim mentality is a destructive, sinful mindset that contrasts sharply with the biblical call to endure hardship with faith and find victory in Christ.
Biblical suffering vs. a victim mentality
The Bible speaks extensively about suffering, but with a fundamentally different perspective than the victim mentality.
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[td]Origin of hardship[/td][td]Understands that suffering can come from living in a fallen world, others' sins, or from persecution for one's faith.[/td][td]Attributes all misfortune to the actions of others or an unfair world, externalizing all blame.[/td][td]Response to hardship[/td][td]Trusts in God's sovereignty and purpose, even in difficult times. The Apostle Paul saw his imprisonment as an opportunity for the gospel to advance and rejoiced.[/td][td]Leads to self-pity, bitterness, and a sense of powerlessness.[/td][td]Identity[/td][td]Identifies as an "overcomer" or "victor" in Christ, not defined by past trauma. The Apostle Paul said, "we are more than conquerors" through Christ (Romans 8:37).[/td][td]Sees oneself as fundamentally and perpetually a victim, allowing past hurts to define one's current identity.[/td][td]Example[/td][td]Jesus Christ, the ultimate victim of injustice, never adopted a victim mentality. Instead, he maintained the attitude of a humble servant, focused on his mission, and prayed for his persecutors.[/td][td]Adam and Eve blaming one another and even God for their sin, demonstrating a natural sinful human tendency to shift responsibility.[/td][td]Outcome[/td][td]Through suffering, Christians can be conformed more closely to the image of Christ, grow in faith, and offer a powerful testimony.[/td][td]Stunts spiritual growth, fosters resentment, and undermines trust in God's goodness.[/td]
How to overcome a victim mentality
To move past a victim mentality, believers are called to adopt a mindset rooted in faith and personal responsibility.
Ian
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Your earlier comment about AI integration with social media gave me an idea. I asked AI to look at this thread from my first post about Charlie Kirk’s death going forward, as that’s when things seemed to get a bit spicy. I wondered if there was a dominant theme.
You may find it interesting and relevant.
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While biblical Christianity recognizes that believers will face real suffering and persecution, it condemns a victim mentality that is self-focused, blames others, and refuses personal responsibility. The Christian worldview distinguishes between legitimate victimhood, which is real and unjust, and the destructive victim mentality that hinders spiritual growth and contradicts the gospel.
What a victim mentality is (and isn't)
Victim mentality is a destructive, sinful mindset that contrasts sharply with the biblical call to endure hardship with faith and find victory in Christ.
- Blames others. It attributes all problems in one's life to the actions of others, rather than accepting responsibility for one's own attitudes and responses.
- Sees the world as against you. It perceives events and circumstances as personally directed against oneself, leading to self-pity and a "woe is me" attitude.
- Magnifies harm and minimizes sin. This mindset tends to exaggerate the harm others have done while blinding a person to their own role in a situation.
- Contradicts the Gospel. By making someone else responsible for one's problems, it removes the need for personal repentance and undermines the work of Christ.
- Hindrance to spiritual growth. This mindset holds people in a state of powerlessness, preventing them from maturing and experiencing the full freedom offered in Christ.
Biblical suffering vs. a victim mentality
The Bible speaks extensively about suffering, but with a fundamentally different perspective than the victim mentality.
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Biblical Suffering
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Victim Mentality
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[td]Origin of hardship[/td][td]Understands that suffering can come from living in a fallen world, others' sins, or from persecution for one's faith.[/td][td]Attributes all misfortune to the actions of others or an unfair world, externalizing all blame.[/td][td]Response to hardship[/td][td]Trusts in God's sovereignty and purpose, even in difficult times. The Apostle Paul saw his imprisonment as an opportunity for the gospel to advance and rejoiced.[/td][td]Leads to self-pity, bitterness, and a sense of powerlessness.[/td][td]Identity[/td][td]Identifies as an "overcomer" or "victor" in Christ, not defined by past trauma. The Apostle Paul said, "we are more than conquerors" through Christ (Romans 8:37).[/td][td]Sees oneself as fundamentally and perpetually a victim, allowing past hurts to define one's current identity.[/td][td]Example[/td][td]Jesus Christ, the ultimate victim of injustice, never adopted a victim mentality. Instead, he maintained the attitude of a humble servant, focused on his mission, and prayed for his persecutors.[/td][td]Adam and Eve blaming one another and even God for their sin, demonstrating a natural sinful human tendency to shift responsibility.[/td][td]Outcome[/td][td]Through suffering, Christians can be conformed more closely to the image of Christ, grow in faith, and offer a powerful testimony.[/td][td]Stunts spiritual growth, fosters resentment, and undermines trust in God's goodness.[/td]
How to overcome a victim mentality
To move past a victim mentality, believers are called to adopt a mindset rooted in faith and personal responsibility.
- Embrace your identity in Christ. Acknowledge that in Christ, you are a new creation and an overcomer, not a helpless victim.
- Take responsibility for your response. While you cannot control others' actions, you can control your own responses. Take ownership of your own choices and actions.
- Forgive others. Forgiveness releases you from the emotional bondage of holding onto hurt and resentment. This does not mean forgetting or condoning the wrong but entrusting justice to God.
- Focus on the Gospel. Keep your focus on Christ's victory on the cross, which defeats the mindset of powerlessness and self-pity.
- Seek godly counsel. For those struggling with past trauma or prolonged toxic patterns, seeking professional counseling or speaking with trusted church leaders can provide healing and support.
Ian
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His family seems decent and loving. This kid was radicalized in school and campus, and spent his whole days on reddit and discord as confirmed by his classmates.
And his own father reported him to the police and brought him in.
Another case of the mind virus taking a perfectly good kid.
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That’s the new take, and fair enough.
That said, he dropped out of uni, Mormon uni, quickly.
Also, no, he clearly was not a perfectly good kid.
Most people, of varying homes, and temperaments, are exposed to a wide range of perspectives in life. They don’t go on to murder.
I mean really, if media had that power, why does it overwhelmingly affect conservatives, Republicans, white supremacists, Christofascists, and suchlike? It’s not selective in who it targets.
I say those groups based on the history of mass shootings and political violence in the United States in the last 10 years once the perpetrator(s) were known and their details gathered.
Cheers,
Ian
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AI doesn't have a soul, nor does it understand what it means to be human or that people have sin. That you would go to it to understand spirituality or a connection to God (something bigger than oneself ) doesn't surprise me, but you won't find any answers about God in AI other than words without an underlying meaning scraped from a vast number of sources of differing opinions.
Of course someone who has a "visceral response to duty" and is comfortable assuming an aggressive behavior over the murdered dead suggest something of greater concern. Go look deep inside @aeon, see if you can find that missing piece that eludes you - it may not be too late.
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I did nothing of the sort. Stop projecting and assuming. Reality through asking, not narrative through fantasy. Try it.
And no surprise...did you take that to heart, or at least consider it? I know AI is what it is, but if there’s one thing AI is good at, it is lexical pattern matching and text analysis.
It saw what it saw. You can pretend that away, as is your right, but why do you think it came to that conclusion?
I am missing nothing, because one cannot miss what one never had.
Also, that’s none of your business. How rude! Boundaries are for everyone, don’tcha know?
Cheers,
Ian
eon: "I mean really, if media had that power, why does it overwhelmingly affect conservatives, Republicans, white supremacists, Christofascists, and suchlike? It’s not selective in who it targets."
Because It doesn't. You are lying as usual. But you live a lie everyday. You are "make believe"
Because It doesn't. You are lying as usual. But you live a lie everyday. You are "make believe"
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This one is the most scary for me:
Firstly, you can just see in her face that she is possesed by some kind of demon. Second, her opinions are trash, her reasoning is trash, her personality is trash. She filmed this conversation with his dad (who is shocked and disappointed with her) and she put in online for clout. And this is the root of the problem, women and female personalities in general (also in men) are historically easier to course-correct when they're doing something stupid because they're more prone to feel shame and fear social exclusion. But now with all these crazy lefty radical circles online and on campuses, this is working in reverse. They are expected to hold this idiotic opinions and have 0 independent thinking and will to brake away.
Firstly, you can just see in her face that she is possesed by some kind of demon. Second, her opinions are trash, her reasoning is trash, her personality is trash. She filmed this conversation with his dad (who is shocked and disappointed with her) and she put in online for clout. And this is the root of the problem, women and female personalities in general (also in men) are historically easier to course-correct when they're doing something stupid because they're more prone to feel shame and fear social exclusion. But now with all these crazy lefty radical circles online and on campuses, this is working in reverse. They are expected to hold this idiotic opinions and have 0 independent thinking and will to brake away.
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I’ll take that as metaphor, but yeah, scary af.
She’s okay with someone being killed because of what they said.
Batshit insane, and tantamount to evil.
Maybe demons are real.
WTF,
Ian
What you are seeing are desperate everything to lose events because their whole system is coming undone. They are ready for more violence because thats all they know. They have covered Georgia Sate with anti trump propaganda about Nov. 5 since yesterday. None of this is organic.
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Yeah, she’s a piece of work, but wack individuals are low-hanging fruit, and easy rage-bait.
What about the responses of elected officials, and those with actual money and power?
I’m not so concerned with garden-variety misanthropy, and/or mental illness, in this situation.
Best,
Ian
What about the responses of elected officials, and those with actual money and power?
I’m not so concerned with garden-variety misanthropy, and/or mental illness, in this situation.
Best,
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All staged by leftists and or trannys. You have a way that you try to side step all the points that you cant face. Because you know good and well what is happening. Yet you just lie, project and gaslight. You continue to lie and try to rewrite history by changing details. I see you
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Recently I watched an excellent 2017 movie about Churchill (Darkest Hours) when he first became PM in 1940, and during his famous "we shall fight on the beaches" speech, his main opponent in the war cabinet, Lord Halifax, summarized it with a fantastic line. He said Churchill has "mobilized the English language and sent it into battle".
I feel something similar has happened to the left, except they are mobilizing compassion (perhaps misdirected maternal instinct in childless women?), along with the English language, and sending it into battle. It's all just a story they created in their head.
The right has a different story that can lead to violent outcomes as well, though. Although I would agree that at the present moment the collective hallucination of the left is more dangerous, especially because it's somewhat supported by mainstream media and institutions.
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Bingo, but you forgot one very important detail.
In accordance with toxic radical feminism, foundational misandry, zero-sum and just-world fallacies, inequity in medical, legal, educational, and gendered role domains—only men who are dyed-in-the-wool simps and those in full Stockholm mode are welcome, and even then, they are assigned lower-tier status.
The liberal underbelly reveals the movement is castrati. Men are not welcome because all men are trash, haven’t you heard?
For years if you went to democrats dot org, and looked at their list of who they served, every flavor of human being was listed—except men.
Last time I looked, they had taken the page down.
The American left is liberal, but not actually left, if we include the rest of the world in creating our axis. Democrats serve as the bulwark against actual leftists gaining any power. Part of that is by electoral control, part is impassioned apathy, and part of that is foundational sexism, as revealed through policy.
Cheers,
Ian