- MBTI
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- Enneagram
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Oh. Hi Ginny. Thanks for mind melding with me.
Any time.Oh. Hi Ginny. Thanks for mind melding with me.
I always considered Picard to be the INTJ, though some people put him down as INFJ. That is hilariously idiotic.
Wait, there are people who type Data as anything other than INTP?
Or is this one of those things where people type Picard as an INFJ instead of an INTJ.
I'm swamped at work this morning but I'll try to get all my TNG types up today...
What about Deanna (me)?
Excuses, excuses...She will be in part 2 lol. I've only got so many hours in the day.
Btw, this is brilliant!TNG: Fairly certain on these. I will admit to being outside-influenced on a few of these I originally wasn't sure of, thanks to some really strong analyses I've read online.
Jean-Luc Picard - INTJ
William T. Riker - ESFP
- Ni: Frequently provides simple solutions to seemingly complex problems in a sudden flash of insight. Works with consistent forward momentum and rarely relies on past experience or 'the way it's always been done' as a guide. Requires considerable time alone to sort through and process his thoughts and ideas.
- Te: Is process-driven; values planning, structure and order to get things done efficiently. In staff meetings, canvasses the entire senior staff for practical ideas ("Suggestions?") in order to exhaust all possibilities. Once the proper direction is determined, wastes no time putting the plan into motion ("Make it so!").
- Fi: While primarily a logician, Picard holds fast to his values, particularly those involving his professional duty (e.g. the Prime Directive). Not overly expressive emotionally, but maintains moral consistency.
- Se: Has difficulty letting himself live in the moment (note that all of Picard's romantic interests actively encourage him to do so). Discovers an affinity for creating music, but only after living an entire lifetime in another man's shoes. Occasionally enjoys cosplaying in the holodeck as an early 20th century detective.
Data - INTP
- Se: Riker is a natural performer. He enjoys playing a musical instrument on stage, of a type and style (jazz trombone) that favors improvisation over rote memorization. While his role as first officer generally limits showy displays, he still finds subtle ways to express himself in a unique fashion ("Rrrrrrred Alert!," the infamous chair-straddle). Charismatic, outgoing and fearless; can readily step into a new situation and thrive (ex - the Federation/Klingon officer exchange).
- Fi: Has a distinct sense of right and wrong that will often override strict adherence to protocol. Challenges Te-aux Picard on the morality of ship and crew actions as they relate to codes of regulation. Sometimes defies orders in favor of what he feels is right (ex - The Pegasus).
- Te: Deftly manages complex routines and issues with personnel aboard ship. Respects the chain of command (so long as his Fi values are in alignment) and will quickly dress down a junior officer for not showing proper respect.
- Ni: Holds stubbornly to his own ideal outcomes, foremost being his desire to eventually captain the Enterprise which causes him to pass up numerous other opportunities along the way. Continues to carry a torch for Deanna and clearly sees her as his one romantic ideal, rarely pursuing anyone else in a serious manner.
Dr. Beverly Crusher - ENTP
- Ti: Highly systematized problem solver thanks to his positronic brain. When asked a question or faced with a dilemma, pauses to first consider, then responds with the complete truth as he understands it. Constantly works to improve his knowledge and understanding of everything. Always seeks to understand the "why" (not just the what) of any situation.
- Ne: Lives in a world of external possibility and theory. Is fascinated by new ideas and enjoys discussing and building upon them. Often improves and refines the ideas of others, rather than suggesting the first workable idea himself.
- Si: Utilizes existing information not as a foundation, but as a supplement for knowledge (Ti/Si). Is very interested in his past, and in knowing more about his creator Dr. Soong and his brother Lore.
- Fe: Data isn't inherently programmed for emotion, and thus has a limited understanding of group dynamics. While always having the best intentions, he is forced to learn appropriate social cues through the framework of his experience (Ti/Si) rather than through inherent emotional comprehension, often failing at the nuances. Despite these limitations, one of his great desires is to better understand emotional reactions in order to more readily "fit in."
- Ne: Actively seeks the most creative solutions and openly embraces new ideas in her field of expertise. Has a broad variety of outside interests and seems to find time for all of them. Adapts well to changing circumstances. Is exceedingly open-minded (ffs she had sex with a ghost).
- Ti: Adept problem solver who works well on the fly. Doesn't let protocol get in the way of making the right calls in the most efficient manner. Stands up to Picard's need to rigidly enforce the rules (Te) on a regular basis. Tends toward an irreverent sense of humor, particularly compared to the rest of the senior staff.
- Fe: Effectively communicates urgency, using emotion-tinged rhetoric when necessary. Shows ample concern for her patients. Makes an effort to be a good friend to all the main cast of characters.
- Si: Retreats and broods when stressed. Occasionally slips up on the details at work; Nurse Ogawa (Si-dom) helps to fill in the gaps in this regard.
...more later
LOL, Picard and Riker are duals ! They actually complement each other in commanding the Enterprise, that is, when they don't step in each other's way, like when Riker doesn't respect the chain of command for some reason. But I don't think that it harms the relationship, as they are both capable of understanding one another.TNG: Fairly certain on these. I will admit to being outside-influenced on a few of these I originally wasn't sure of, thanks to some really strong analyses I've read online.
Jean-Luc Picard - INTJ
William T. Riker - ESFP
- Ni: Frequently provides simple solutions to seemingly complex problems in a sudden flash of insight. Works with consistent forward momentum and rarely relies on past experience or 'the way it's always been done' as a guide. Requires considerable time alone to sort through and process his thoughts and ideas.
- Te: Is process-driven; values planning, structure and order to get things done efficiently. In staff meetings, canvasses the entire senior staff for practical ideas ("Suggestions?") in order to exhaust all possibilities. Once the proper direction is determined, wastes no time putting the plan into motion ("Make it so!").
- Fi: While primarily a logician, Picard holds fast to his values, particularly those involving his professional duty (e.g. the Prime Directive). Not overly expressive emotionally, but maintains moral consistency.
- Se: Has difficulty letting himself live in the moment (note that all of Picard's romantic interests actively encourage him to do so). Discovers an affinity for creating music, but only after living an entire lifetime in another man's shoes. Occasionally enjoys cosplaying in the holodeck as an early 20th century detective.
Data - INTP
- Se: Riker is a natural performer. He enjoys playing a musical instrument on stage, of a type and style (jazz trombone) that favors improvisation over rote memorization. While his role as first officer generally limits showy displays, he still finds subtle ways to express himself in a unique fashion ("Rrrrrrred Alert!," the infamous chair-straddle). Charismatic, outgoing and fearless; can readily step into a new situation and thrive (ex - the Federation/Klingon officer exchange).
- Fi: Has a distinct sense of right and wrong that will often override strict adherence to protocol. Challenges Te-aux Picard on the morality of ship and crew actions as they relate to codes of regulation. Sometimes defies orders in favor of what he feels is right (ex - The Pegasus).
- Te: Deftly manages complex routines and issues with personnel aboard ship. Respects the chain of command (so long as his Fi values are in alignment) and will quickly dress down a junior officer for not showing proper respect.
- Ni: Holds stubbornly to his own ideal outcomes, foremost being his desire to eventually captain the Enterprise which causes him to pass up numerous other opportunities along the way. Continues to carry a torch for Deanna and clearly sees her as his one romantic ideal, rarely pursuing anyone else in a serious manner.
Dr. Beverly Crusher - ENTP
- Ti: Highly systematized problem solver thanks to his positronic brain. When asked a question or faced with a dilemma, pauses to first consider, then responds with the complete truth as he understands it. Constantly works to improve his knowledge and understanding of everything. Always seeks to understand the "why" (not just the what) of any situation.
- Ne: Lives in a world of external possibility and theory. Is fascinated by new ideas and enjoys discussing and building upon them. Often improves and refines the ideas of others, rather than suggesting the first workable idea himself.
- Si: Utilizes existing information not as a foundation, but as a supplement for knowledge (Ti/Si). Is very interested in his past, and in knowing more about his creator Dr. Soong and his brother Lore.
- Fe: Data isn't inherently programmed for emotion, and thus has a limited understanding of group dynamics. While always having the best intentions, he is forced to learn appropriate social cues through the framework of his experience (Ti/Si) rather than through inherent emotional comprehension, often failing at the nuances. Despite these limitations, one of his great desires is to better understand emotional reactions in order to more readily "fit in."
- Ne: Actively seeks the most creative solutions and openly embraces new ideas in her field of expertise. Has a broad variety of outside interests and seems to find time for all of them. Adapts well to changing circumstances. Is exceedingly open-minded (ffs she had sex with a ghost).
- Ti: Adept problem solver who works well on the fly. Doesn't let protocol get in the way of making the right calls in the most efficient manner. Stands up to Picard's need to rigidly enforce the rules (Te) on a regular basis. Tends toward an irreverent sense of humor, particularly compared to the rest of the senior staff.
- Fe: Effectively communicates urgency, using emotion-tinged rhetoric when necessary. Shows ample concern for her patients. Makes an effort to be a good friend to all the main cast of characters.
- Si: Retreats and broods when stressed. Occasionally slips up on the details at work; Nurse Ogawa (Si-dom) helps to fill in the gaps in this regard.
...more later
LOL, Picard and Riker are duals ! They actually complement each other in commanding the Enterprise, that is, when they don't step in each other's way, like when Riker doesn't respect the chain of command for some reason. But I don't think that it harms the relationship, as they are both capable of understanding one another.
I can't wait for the next bunch. Will you do Guinan and Wesley too?
Jean-Luc Picard - INTJ
Picard is a clear-cut, exceptionally healthy INTJ.
INTXs usually areINTJs are usually villainized.
INTXs usually are
good instead of evil
Really great assessment! I'm so looking forward to Deanna (lol @Happy Phantom that my autocorrect wanted to say 'Dean') and YUSSS GUINAN, Q, and everyone else. Thanks for taking the time to do this. ❤TNG: Fairly certain on these. I will admit to being outside-influenced on a few of these I originally wasn't sure of, thanks to some really strong analyses I've read online.
Jean-Luc Picard - INTJ
William T. Riker - ESFP
- Ni: Frequently provides simple solutions to seemingly complex problems in a sudden flash of insight. Works with consistent forward momentum and rarely relies on past experience or 'the way it's always been done' as a guide. Requires considerable time alone to sort through and process his thoughts and ideas.
- Te: Is process-driven; values planning, structure and order to get things done efficiently. In staff meetings, canvasses the entire senior staff for practical ideas ("Suggestions?") in order to exhaust all possibilities. Once the proper direction is determined, wastes no time putting the plan into motion ("Make it so!").
- Fi: While primarily a logician, Picard holds fast to his values, particularly those involving his professional duty (e.g. the Prime Directive). Not overly expressive emotionally, but maintains moral consistency.
- Se: Has difficulty letting himself live in the moment (note that all of Picard's romantic interests actively encourage him to do so). Discovers an affinity for creating music, but only after living an entire lifetime in another man's shoes. Occasionally enjoys cosplaying in the holodeck as an early 20th century detective.
Data - INTP
- Se: Riker is a natural performer. He enjoys playing a musical instrument on stage, of a type and style (jazz trombone) that favors improvisation over rote memorization. While his role as first officer generally limits showy displays, he still finds subtle ways to express himself in a unique fashion ("Rrrrrrred Alert!," the infamous chair-straddle). Charismatic, outgoing and fearless; can readily step into a new situation and thrive (ex - the Federation/Klingon officer exchange).
- Fi: Has a distinct sense of right and wrong that will often override strict adherence to protocol. Challenges Te-aux Picard on the morality of ship and crew actions as they relate to codes of regulation. Sometimes defies orders in favor of what he feels is right (ex - The Pegasus).
- Te: Deftly manages complex routines and issues with personnel aboard ship. Respects the chain of command (so long as his Fi values are in alignment) and will quickly dress down a junior officer for not showing proper respect.
- Ni: Holds stubbornly to his own ideal outcomes, foremost being his desire to eventually captain the Enterprise which causes him to pass up numerous other opportunities along the way. Continues to carry a torch for Deanna and clearly sees her as his one romantic ideal, rarely pursuing anyone else in a serious manner.
Dr. Beverly Crusher - ENTP
- Ti: Highly systematized problem solver thanks to his positronic brain. When asked a question or faced with a dilemma, pauses to first consider, then responds with the complete truth as he understands it. Constantly works to improve his knowledge and understanding of everything. Always seeks to understand the "why" (not just the what) of any situation.
- Ne: Lives in a world of external possibility and theory. Is fascinated by new ideas and enjoys discussing and building upon them. Often improves and refines the ideas of others, rather than suggesting the first workable idea himself.
- Si: Utilizes existing information not as a foundation, but as a supplement for knowledge (Ti/Si). Is very interested in his past, and in knowing more about his creator Dr. Soong and his brother Lore.
- Fe: Data isn't inherently programmed for emotion, and thus has a limited understanding of group dynamics. While always having the best intentions, he is forced to learn appropriate social cues through the framework of his experience (Ti/Si) rather than through inherent emotional comprehension, often failing at the nuances. Despite these limitations, one of his great desires is to better understand emotional reactions in order to more readily "fit in."
- Ne: Actively seeks the most creative solutions and openly embraces new ideas in her field of expertise. Has a broad variety of outside interests and seems to find time for all of them. Adapts well to changing circumstances. Is exceedingly open-minded (ffs she had sex with a ghost).
- Ti: Adept problem solver who works well on the fly. Doesn't let protocol get in the way of making the right calls in the most efficient manner. Stands up to Picard's need to rigidly enforce the rules (Te) on a regular basis. Tends toward an irreverent sense of humor, particularly compared to the rest of the senior staff.
- Fe: Effectively communicates urgency, using emotion-tinged rhetoric when necessary. Shows ample concern for her patients. Makes an effort to be a good friend to all the main cast of characters.
- Si: Retreats and broods when stressed. Occasionally slips up on the details at work; Nurse Ogawa (Si-dom) helps to fill in the gaps in this regard.
...more later
Doing INTJ the right way. The healthy way. I think people don't see it sometimes because INTJs are usually villainized.
INTXs usually are
:heartu:to all the above. It's important to make the distinction between healthy types and not their typical negative stereotypes.They're just too awesome to believe when they're using their powers for good instead of evil
It's important to make the distinction between healthy types and not their typical negative stereotypes.
Well said, as usual. :lovey:YES!!!
*ahem... clears throat*
Pardon the enthusiasm, I just think this happens far too often. I remember having a lengthy discussion with a member on here about INTJs in particular, wherein she was transferring her negative experiences with an unhealthy INTJ onto the type as a blanket negative bias. It's good to take a step back and consider whether an individual is coming from an unhealthy, or a healthy state of mind, regardless of it being a fictional character, or a real individual.
@infinite dreams
Your analyses of the characters were wonderful once again, considering not only the functions as they might manifest, but how they might manifest depending on their order in one's stack. The nuances between aux and dom Ne, for instance. It's awesome to see that captured and articulated so well.