The Collective

[MENTION=3096]Sonyab[/MENTION]

I thought maybe you'd find this interesting. To me this is participating in the collective unconscious/conscious and effecting it.

The following from the Global Coherence Initiative showed up in my inbox this morning:
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]GCI January 2011 Full Moon Synchronized Care Focus

Welcome to the Global Coherence Initiative’s January 2011 Full Moon Synchronized Care Focus. Doing the GCI Care Focus together helps amplify the coherent heart energy and collective intent.

Many people and groups throughout the planet are realizing that unity and more heartfelt connection are the next spiritual leap for humanity. They are talking about a new world unfolding in the collective consciousness and sensing the facilitation of divine love from universal source. Although stress increases at times as structures and systems that no longer serve humanity continue to break down, people connecting with the divine love then radiating it into the planetary energetic field can help to ease this process and progressively create a better world. The transitions we all are going through are helping redefine our lives and life on the planet for the better.

For the January 2011 full moon synchronized Care Focus, we will continue the "Divine Love" Care Focus we began last month and add to it. While breathing divine love, we will add visualizing humanity increasingly connecting with each other from the genuine heart, with non-judgment and compassion.

Last month I read a few words written by Doc Childre, founder of the Institute of HeartMath, the sponsor of the Global Coherence Initiative, about divine love which I’ll read again:
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Divine love embodies warmth and compassion for those throughout the planet who are experiencing duress from unexpected or accelerated changes. Change is not our enemy. Yet at times it calls for our heart to be the centerpiece of intelligent discernment, which helps us find a flow through change. We all know that resistance to change often intensifies our challenges. Radiating divine love into the planetary energy field can help prevent or soften personal and collective challenges.

Divine love is a high frequency love from universal source that nurtures the wholeness while remaining free from attachment to outcome. It has a texture of endearment, yet allowance. Divine love serves as an amplifier of our own compassion and unconditional love.

You don’t have to use the term "universal source" as your reference for divine love – you can refer to your own source of divine love based on your individual belief system.

We’ll do this Care Focus together for fifteen minutes. It’s really okay to stop sooner or continue longer if you choose. There will be music playing or you can mute the music if you prefer. Until the next synchronized Care Focus, it would be effective for the planet if we individually do this technique often in the Global Care Room.

In this Care Focus, use your imagination along with your heart feelings to connect with the divine love, then simply breathe it in and radiate it into the planetary energy field. Simplicity is powerful and effective when the heart is sincere. Avoid the mind’s temptation to get stuck on trying to get it right—if your heart is genuine and sincere, know that your care will be effective.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Now let’s do the Care Focus together – Let’s breathe in divine love through all of our cells then radiate it out to the planet and our global community. While breathing divine love, visualize humanity increasingly connecting with each other from the genuine heart, with non-judgment and compassion.

(After 15 minutes)

Many people throughout the planet are using this or a similar technique to bring more ease and energetic balance into their personal life, along with facilitating humanity and the planet to have a smoother integration through our collective adventure of rapid change.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Please join us in the Global Care Room, you can enter the room directly from [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]www.globalcarerooms.org[/FONT]. Simply log-in with your e-mail and GCI password. You may also enter by logging into [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]www.glcoherence.org[/FONT] and clicking the Global Care Room link on your My Member Page. Thank you for providing energetic care and support.

Thank you for your participation.

The GCI Staff

Global Coherence Initiative – 14700 West Park Ave – Boulder Creek, California 95006 – 831-338-8500
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[MENTION=2716]Norwich[/MENTION]

This act of breathing in love and radiating it out to the people on earth is similar to practicing Loving Kindness for the entire planet. Don't you think?
 
This act of breathing in love and radiating it out to the people on earth is similar to practicing Loving Kindness for the entire planet. Don't you think?
Yea, I was thinking that as I was reading. Do you really think it's possible to effect change in that way? I've got to admit, despite my granola tendencies, there was a part of me screaming Namby-pamby! Was it the voice of logic or skepticism? I don't know.
 
The analysis on dreams is definitely true. It's a way to organize thoughts and repair the body. Even if you don't consciencously understand it, and get a "what the hell was that"? moments when you wake up.
 
Is the Collective Unconsciousness a living morphous thing? Something that can be stirred up? I don't know. I think it changes with each successive generation.

Does it transcend the individual in the sense that one person can alter it and another perceive that alteration? That is a tough one....

Is it the repository of human ways of knowing and understanding? undoubtedly
 
Does it transcend the individual in the sense that one person can alter it and another perceive that alteration? That is a tough one....
I guess I would like to think so. How could one pass up the opportunity to affect positive change. But there in lies the problem. It seems when man detects such opportunities, ritual follows. For many these rituals foster a mystical experience. But for others it creates barriers.
 
Yea, I was thinking that as I was reading. Do you really think it's possible to effect change in that way? I've got to admit, despite my granola tendencies, there was a part of me screaming Namby-pamby! Was it the voice of logic or skepticism? I don't know.

Hahahahahaha.....Yep Namby Pamby indeed. :lol:

That's how I felt when I first heard, several years ago, about the concept of people focusing their intention in unity to achieve a common goal. In fact - I thought it was so ridiculous that I went about trying to disprove it. To me it was the same nonsense as I see posted around here in my little section of the world such as "Pray for the United States" to win the war (in Iraq).

Yet again and again I have run into seemingly disparate pieces of data and research that when put together as a whole point to a collective and how we can influence it.

Take this research that was done a long time ago. It was published in a science journal. There is more anecdotal information that prompted this research.

http://www.ingentaconnect.com/conte...2/00198917;jsessionid=2cp24gw4vp7u9.alexandra

Abstract
This paper reports the results of a prospective experiment in which a group of approximately 4,000 participants in the Transcendental Meditation and TM-Sidhi programs of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi assembled in Washington, D.C., from June 7 to July 30, 1993.

It was hypothesized that levels of violent crime in the District of Columbia would fall substantially during the Demonstration Project, as a result of the group's effect of increasing coherence and reducing stress in the collective consciousness of the District.

A 27-member Project Review Board comprising independent scientists and leading citizens approved the research protocol and monitored the research process. Weekly crime data was derived from database records provided by the District of Columbia Metropolitan Police Department (DCMPD), which are used in the FBI Uniform Crime Reports.

...Time series analysis of 1993 data, controlling for temperature, showed that HRA crimes dropped significantly during the Demonstration Project, corresponding with increases in the size of the group; the maximum decrease was 23.3% ....
For example there is this:
http://istpp.org/pdf/Shift-PoweroftheCollective.pdf

...... In my opinion the most immediate implications today in the
world are stopping ethnic wars, the conflict in the Middle East, and so on.
And in fact a similar experiment was done during the peak of the Israel-Lebanon war in the 1980s.

We found that on days when the numbers of meditators were largest
(and also on the subsequent day), levels of conflict were markedly reduced
 
[MENTION=3096]Sonyab[/MENTION]

The dream world you spoke of in your first posts reminds me very strongly of the idea of the astral realm. Through astral projectory and practice, it is said that one can visit such a city while their body is asleep, but the mind is awake. It's said that we visit the astral realm every night, but usually subconsciously so our memories of it are foggy at best. It's supposedly another plane of existence, and many reports from unconnected experiences describe the place in a similar fashion. Perhaps it's where you and your sister have visited? I've tired astral projectory before with a little success but never really got into it. Perhaps it's something you'd be interested in checking out?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/32776501/07-Astral-Projection-Amazing-Journeys

I'm not sure what I believe about the world or spirituality, but with experiences I've had I do believe the human experience transcends our physical realities.
 
I have also heard of the idea of astral projecting called Traveling. In that you are capable of going places when you sleep. I have had some experience in Traveling, where I believe the essense of me was gone elsewhere. One time my sister touched me while I was sleeping and I had a violent reaction which caused me to try and cram myself between the wall and the bed. I vividly remember coming to with my sister looking at me with alarm. It took me a moment to understand her words but she was telling me it was okay. My sister was totally freaked out because she said I looked at her and she could tell that nobody was home. In my dream state I felt that someone was smothering me but all she did was touch my shoulder. I also remember the sensation of being thrown back in my body.
I also freaked out my college roommates because I would automatically wake up if they came within a certain distance to me. I would be sound asleep and then if they moved within a few feet of me, I would sit up and be talking normally.

I think of the CU as energy. I think that it is possible for this energy to be collected in places and ways that we don't understand.
 
Unus Mundus

I think [MENTION=2578]K-gal[/MENTION] is suggesting that synchronicty can be incurred through practice.



"...........Concretely the unus mundus manifests, as Jung pointed out, in the synchronistic phenomena. While we normally live in a dual world of "outer" and "inner" events, in a synchronistic event this duality no longer exists; outer events behave as if they were a part of our psyche, so that everything is contained in the same wholeness.

...This experience is the ultimate stage of the process of individuation, a becoming one with the collective unconscious...When this occurs positively, it brings about a union with the collective unconscious instead of a breaking apart, it means an enlargement of consciousness together with a decrease of intensity in the ego-complex. When this happens the ego retires in favour of the collective unconscious. To reach that point where outer and inner reality (heaven and earth) become one is the goal of individuation. Through it one also reaches some of what Jung calls the "absolute knowledge" in the unconscious. .............."


Marie-Louise von Franz, Spring Publications (1979) http://web.ukonline.co.uk/phil.williams/unusmundus.htm
 
Okay [MENTION=2578]K-gal[/MENTION]; namby pamby may not have been the correct terminology to describe my skepticism. Blame [MENTION=1939]Dave[/MENTION]; I haven't heard that phrase in years. But since he used it last week, I cant get it out of my mind.
I'm not having difficulty because this stuff is, as you put it, lovey dovey. I don't find it difficult at all to believe that many people focusing on loving kindness would prove positive. What I'm concerned with is the notion we can affect change. Don't get me wrong, I very much would like to influence some positive change and this well may be the way to do that. But when people try to harness this power, what will happen? It seems to me that the desire to use this power can easily morph into something else. Throughout history, it's at this point where many people of faith start setting up rules that must be followed religiously. I guess instead of skepticism, I am feeling trepidation.
 
You mean ........
Witchcraft!



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[MENTION=2716]Norwich[/MENTION]
 
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Ahhh.... good point!

So - if we allow that our intentions can affect change - then imagine what all of the people on the globe are doing with being caught up in fear. There is an awful lot of them... Their hatred, revulsion, judgmental attitudes are already affecting us on this whirling sphere.

Seems to me we need some people who are practicing Loving Kindness to help bring some balance.

You are afraid there will be another manipulation like all the other religions - right?

Sigh.... I don't know what to tell you there Norwich - except that those that I know do not follow a religion. Most just practice the teachings to enhance their lives and those of their fellow man. No beliefs are necessary. No dogma to follow...

I just keep my eyes open all the time.

:hug:
 
I agree, the more people practicing Loving Kindness the better.
those that I know do not follow a religion. Most just practice the teachings to enhance their lives and those of their fellow man. No beliefs are necessary. No dogma to follow...

I just keep my eyes open all the time.
Don't you need to believe that Loving Kindness will promote the positive, to practice the teachings? Isn't it possible that someone, who doesn't keep their eyes open, could become susceptible to a self proclaimed guru trying to make a buck by offering advice on how to improve ones meditation?
 
"...........Concretely the unus mundus manifests, as Jung pointed out, in the synchronistic phenomena. While we normally live in a dual world of "outer" and "inner" events, in a synchronistic event this duality no longer exists; outer events behave as if they were a part of our psyche, so that everything is contained in the same wholeness.

...This experience is the ultimate stage of the process of individuation, a becoming one with the collective unconscious...When this occurs positively, it brings about a union with the collective unconscious instead of a breaking apart, it means an enlargement of consciousness together with a decrease of intensity in the ego-complex. When this happens the ego retires in favour of the collective unconscious. To reach that point where outer and inner reality (heaven and earth) become one is the goal of individuation. Through it one also reaches some of what Jung calls the "absolute knowledge" in the unconscious. .............."

+1
 
I agree, the more people practicing Loving Kindness the better.

Don't you need to believe that Loving Kindness will promote the positive, to practice the teachings?

Isn't it possible that someone, who doesn't keep their eyes open, could become susceptible to a self proclaimed guru trying to make a buck by offering advice on how to improve ones meditation?

No. One does not need to believe that Loving Kindness will do anything...

One does not need to believe anything - at - all.

One does.

Norwich - I think once you've tried doing a few loving kindness meditations you'll see that there is no belief required at all.

You will be doing it - and once you experience the doing of projecting loving kindness towards yourself and all others you hold dear - you will see the truth of it.

I don't know any other way to tell you this information. I don't believe anything. I just do.

Try it - you'll see.
:hug:
 
I have also heard of the idea of astral projecting called Traveling. In that you are capable of going places when you sleep. I have had some experience in Traveling, where I believe the essense of me was gone elsewhere. One time my sister touched me while I was sleeping and I had a violent reaction which caused me to try and cram myself between the wall and the bed. I vividly remember coming to with my sister looking at me with alarm. It took me a moment to understand her words but she was telling me it was okay. My sister was totally freaked out because she said I looked at her and she could tell that nobody was home. In my dream state I felt that someone was smothering me but all she did was touch my shoulder. I also remember the sensation of being thrown back in my body.
I also freaked out my college roommates because I would automatically wake up if they came within a certain distance to me. I would be sound asleep and then if they moved within a few feet of me, I would sit up and be talking normally.

I think of the CU as energy. I think that it is possible for this energy to be collected in places and ways that we don't understand.

Yes.
 
Norwich - I think once you've tried doing a few loving kindness meditations you'll see that there is no belief required at all.
I have been doing loving kindness meditations. And I don't know how to explain it, but belief definitely plays a part in it for me. Maybe we have a different connotation of belief. For me though, if I didn't believe we were all connected in some way, I don't think that meditation in any form would be appealing to me.
Sonyab sorry for derailing your thread a bit.
 
Based on my experience of entheogenistic plants as recorded by perennial wisdom traditions from around the globe, as well as the writings on archetype and the power of myth, as described by Joseph Campell, combined with the writings of Ken Wilbur and his mapping of the spectrum of consciousness, my sense is the collective unconscious is indeed real.


Namaste,
Ian
 
This is a great thread about the power of collective thought and the projection of love to all mankind

This is no longer a thread on the Collective Unconsciousness. (in my opinion) The Collective Unconsciousness can not be altered by a conscious effort or by will.
 
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