We've heard it many times in here and in the real world, " you're not that organized to be a J" or something to that effect but yet we consider ourselves to be projecting this attitude to outsiders. I admit that sometimes I've felt like I'm not an organized person at all, I easily forget things and wouldn't be successful shelving books in the library which requires a great deal of organization skills. So where does this Judging function come from in INFJ's?
All this is speculative of course but as I have understood so far from reading, surfing the net and talking among others who are knowledgeable about the MBTI, it seems that the order that comes from an INFJ is from our organizational skills about our ideals and how we want to see such ideal to be displayed in to the external world from our eyes. I could care less about seeing order in my room unless it is disrupting an objective that results from seeing such clutter because I usually can't do anything in a messy room so I clean it, not because I want my room to look nice and clean but because it is impeding me from reaching my objectives(homework, exercise or reading time).
The judging function ,from what it is obvious, is used a lot different from people with sensing preferences or in fact other "judgers", because they are usually(not generalizing of course) more by the book and about aesthetics. They are ashamed if someone sees a dirty house or that things are not where they are supposed to be. It just seems that INFJ's are more concerned in being organized and planning ahead if it's something that deals with their inner world. We seem to enjoy routine to an extent, as long as that routine is taking us somewhere productive and that it is going to help us achieve our potentials because if it isn't we tend to get really bored and seek something more exciting but at the same time more beneficial to our being.
This is all of course coming from my own head and interpreting what others have mentioned regarding their J-ness. You all are welcome to refute me and add constructive insight as to this view. I want to give up this type ordeal and sometimes I say to myself " F this, I'm not a type and blah blah blah" but I always end up in the same boat and ashamed of myself for not putting determination and effort to understand myself. I guess that knowing is more powerful in me than just forgetting about this issue and no matter what I say, I won't be satisfied until I convince myself that I am capable of attaining my own stamp, my own label and once I obtain such thing then I will be ready to proceed to find my real identity and real Self.
All this is speculative of course but as I have understood so far from reading, surfing the net and talking among others who are knowledgeable about the MBTI, it seems that the order that comes from an INFJ is from our organizational skills about our ideals and how we want to see such ideal to be displayed in to the external world from our eyes. I could care less about seeing order in my room unless it is disrupting an objective that results from seeing such clutter because I usually can't do anything in a messy room so I clean it, not because I want my room to look nice and clean but because it is impeding me from reaching my objectives(homework, exercise or reading time).
The judging function ,from what it is obvious, is used a lot different from people with sensing preferences or in fact other "judgers", because they are usually(not generalizing of course) more by the book and about aesthetics. They are ashamed if someone sees a dirty house or that things are not where they are supposed to be. It just seems that INFJ's are more concerned in being organized and planning ahead if it's something that deals with their inner world. We seem to enjoy routine to an extent, as long as that routine is taking us somewhere productive and that it is going to help us achieve our potentials because if it isn't we tend to get really bored and seek something more exciting but at the same time more beneficial to our being.
This is all of course coming from my own head and interpreting what others have mentioned regarding their J-ness. You all are welcome to refute me and add constructive insight as to this view. I want to give up this type ordeal and sometimes I say to myself " F this, I'm not a type and blah blah blah" but I always end up in the same boat and ashamed of myself for not putting determination and effort to understand myself. I guess that knowing is more powerful in me than just forgetting about this issue and no matter what I say, I won't be satisfied until I convince myself that I am capable of attaining my own stamp, my own label and once I obtain such thing then I will be ready to proceed to find my real identity and real Self.