Transgender - Why is it even a thing?

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sprinkles:

-NOBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
-Nobody here is going to side with you.
-I'm trying to protect my community from people who would trample all over it without regard to how things work here.
-People are responding civilly to your argument but it's not because they want to debate with you. It is because they think you are wrong and they're being nice about it. Don't mistake it for friendly discussion.
-people will get sick of you soon enough.
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[MENTION=6917]sprinkles[/MENTION], are you a moderator here? if not then why do you speak for everybody.
 
amad said:
@sprinkles, there is no rule that says I can not reply to a 3 months old post, the thread was not closed by moderators, why are you so suspicious, "dig up threads, cause trouble, an agenda" !!! all of this because of stating my opinion, by the way I am not supposed to help anybody every time I post and if you have heard my opinion a million times before, it doesn't mean I should not express myself, just saying.

@Jacobi, yes there is plenty of research that proves there is no gay gene, it's a big lie propagated by the homosexual propaganda, here is a good summary;
http://www.mygenes.co.nz/summary.htm
"A scan of the whole genome has not found any homosexual genes, unlike the case for schizophrenia (which has still only identified 4 genes linked to 3%of schizophrenia.) "

I consider it a very bad choice one can make, because he's going against nature, just think about the biological compatibility of sex between different genders and the incompatibility of sex organs between same sex individuals, it is very clear and doesn't even need any scientific research, it just needs will power and truthful confrontation of oneself in order to get rid of this disease once and for all, it is very possible and there are many ex gays out there. I condemn all those who are happy with it, but I don't condemn those struggling with it, their upbringing or environment might have lead them to that confusion, well it's never too late and a firm decision can help such an individual out. If you have homosexual tendencies you should fight them as much as you can otherwise you will get depressed, high suicide rates are not because of society's discrimination, it is more because of the internal struggle inside the homosexual, just read what Richard Weller wrote in his confessions:

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"I tried imitating others when they said they were born gay, I would say "me too"! It seemed an easy way to get people to accept us. If we were born gay that took away any personal responsibility for our behavior and made people feel sorry for us. All along though, we knew it was a convenient lie.

I love and respect myself today, but I hate the things that I used to do. Homosexual sexuality is perverse and unhealthy, both physically and emotionally. We put on such a respectable image, but inside we were miserable and ashamed. Like many young gays, I tried to commit suicide because I didn't think there was a way out. "

http://www.newswithviews.com/psychology/psychology2.htm


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In my belief homosexuality is condemned because it is a high form of transgression of God's laws, any homosexual owe it to himself to confront these thoughts that lead to self destruction, but maybe you believe more in science, so you may listen to this scientist here, open your eyes, Dr. Nicholas Andrew Cummings is not against homosexuality even but speaks the truth.:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NyX5CxGraE[/youtube]
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you say that you want to talk, but you are actually not responding to things that i have written. why?

natural things occour naturally in nature. they do not occour according to logic or reason. emotional responses are not logical, and neither is nature. nature is NOT what YOU personally decide that it is. natural things are just what happens out there in nature, whether you like it or not. pretend all you like about what happens or does not happen. your "will power" to make nature be a certain thing, and your own ability to construct special little stories or fantasies about what happens or what should ideally happen in the natural world, will never change the reality of what happens in the natural world.

the testimonial of one person who has decided that they are ashamed about things they have done in the past is not generalisable to other people who have experienced similar things. it makes no sense for you to urge people to change their lifestyles or else they will get depressed. obviously, there are many people who are happily living lifestyles that you do not agree with. you can pretend that they are not happy if you like; im not sure it makes much difference to them whether you want to see them as depressed or not. in any case, depression as a mental illness is clearly something that is beyond your ability to comprehend, or you wouldnt be blaming people for trying to live their lives as well as they can manage, regardless of the choices that they make.

if you believe that your God will judge people for their choices in life, then you should leave that up to your God, and stop pretending to yourself that you have the capacity to judge others that is reserved for your God. other peoples lives are none of your business, and the privileges of your God are none of your business either. shouldnt you be more worried about how you, yourself will be judged for the things that you do in your own life?

not everyone believes the same things that you do. there are many other beliefs in the world, and why you think that your own belief is more truthful than the truths that belong to other people is not a mark of humility in you. if your belief works for you, good for you. but you need to understand that your belief does not apply to most of the world. you believe what you choose to, but stop trying to force your beliefs to apply to others.
 
sprinkles, also, is right. he is not a moderator, but you may notice that he is a long standing community member in good repute. of course you are free to discuss anything you want, but barging into a forum and finding a contentious historical thread to necro is pretty bad manners.
 
invisible said:
sprinkles, also, is right. he is not a moderator, but you may notice that he is a long standing community member in good repute. of course you are free to discuss anything you want, but barging into a forum and finding a contentious historical thread to necro is pretty bad manners.
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That's all I'm really saying.

I'd also like to note that I never actually said amad was wrong or shouldn't have this opinion.
 
[MENTION=1814]invisible[/MENTION], see this line of reasoning is hypocritical, the fact of the matter the homosexual machine wants to force homosexuality on everybody else, they already had equal rights but no they wanted to change the definition of marriage so that it would be accepted and taught at schools and shown on daytime television, and business owners are forced to hire homosexuals who are even allowed to adopt children!.
What they are doing is actually they are forcing their belief on everybody else, whereas when I express my own opinion based on my own belief system you claim that I am forcing it on you!? I have a better deal, everyone lives his life however he wishes and everybody has the right to express his opinions and beliefs, without crossing the line and hijacking public media and education system.. and message boards!
 
amad said:
[MENTION=1814]invisible[/MENTION], see this line of reasoning is hypocritical, the fact of the matter the homosexual machine wants to force homosexuality on everybody else, they already had equal rights but no they wanted to change the definition of marriage so that it would be accepted and taught at schools and shown on daytime television, and business owners are forced to hire homosexuals who are even allowed to adopt children!.
What they are doing is actually they are forcing their belief on everybody else, whereas when I express my own opinion based on my own belief system you claim that I am forcing it on you!? I have a better deal, everyone lives his life however he wishes and everybody has the right to express his opinions and beliefs, without crossing the line and hijacking public media and education system.. and message boards!
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Speaking of hijacking public media and message boards: this was a dead topic and you revived it.

Things were neutral and you made it a point to actively inject your opinion and make the issue come back to life. The person hijacking right now is you. This wasn't a current problem until you made it become one, and since you decided to start talking about it, these other opinions are going to come out when they otherwise would not have. This is directly because of you.

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amad said:
cool down and learn to listen to people with differing opinions than yours, thanks.
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You're a hypocrite too when it is clear that you don't give others the same respect that you ask for. You need to express your opinion but when someone else expresses theirs, they are hijacking public media? You should be ashamed for this double standard.
 
amad said:
@invisible, see this line of reasoning is hypocritical, the fact of the matter the homosexual machine wants to force homosexuality on everybody else, they already had equal rights but no they wanted to change the definition of marriage so that it would be accepted and taught at schools and shown on daytime television, and business owners are forced to hire homosexuals who are even allowed to adopt children!.
What they are doing is actually they are forcing their belief on everybody else, whereas when I express my own opinion based on my own belief system you claim that I am forcing it on you!? I have a better deal, everyone lives his life however he wishes and everybody has the right to express his opinions and beliefs, without crossing the line and hijacking public media and education system.. and message boards!
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no, what you are saying is not factual, it is a paranoid delusion that has been constructed in your imaginary world.

how people decide to live their lives has no effect on you. no one is preventing you from living your life the way you choose. by living their lives the way they choose, they are not forcing their choices on anyone else. what they are asking for is for their choices to be legally respected as equally valid to the choices of others.

no one is forced to hire homosexuals; they are required by law to hire people equally according to the work qualifications of those people, as opposed to their personal lifestyle choices. this is a matter of treating people fairly and equally according to their abilities to provide their labour for sale on a free market, rather than what they do in their bedroom, which has no relevance to their work performance. refusing to hire someone on the basis of something that has nothing to do with their ability to perform their work tasks is discrimination, like refusing to allow black people or women to vote.

other people are not asking you to live their own choices or to be a homosexual, but you are are asking people to conform to the belief system that you have chosen. you are expecting that they will make choices according to your own belief system. you wish for society to be constructed according to the rules of your belief. you are forcing your beliefs on others.
 
sprinkles said:
Speaking of hijacking public media and message boards: this was a dead topic and you revived it.

Things were neutral and you made it a point to actively inject your opinion and make the issue come back to life. The person hijacking right now is you. This wasn't a current problem until you made it become one, and since you decided to start talking about it, these other opinions are going to come out when they otherwise would not have. This is directly because of you.


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You're a hypocrite too when it is clear that you don't give others the same respect that you ask for. You need to express your opinion but when someone else expresses theirs, they are hijacking public media? You should be ashamed for this double standard.
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[MENTION=6917]sprinkles[/MENTION]

1- this thread is not locked, therefore anybody in the world can reply to it, and I was not even joining the conversation, I was replying to the original poster, saying that it was a dead thread is your own opinion and I don't have to abide by it.

2- All of your posts sprinkles are aimed at shutting me up, is this not hijacking the thread!? just listen to yourself

sprinkles:

-Did you sign up just to dig up threads and cause trouble?
-Your opinion is not new and has been heard before a million times by everyone, and repeating it offers no constructive value.
-posting things that don't actually help anyone without regard to who you are talking to is just writing to see yourself talk, and that is selfish and self centered.
-Look what you have done. NOBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
-You are disturbing the peace. Nobody here is going to side with you.
-I'm calling you out for what you are. You need to be dealt with.
-if you go around poking hornets, don't try to blame the hornets when you get stung.
-this is a community and you are disrupting it.
-That is why you should hold off a bit. It's called respect and consideration. That's if you really are new in the first place.
-You think you can target me because I'm being vocal about my suspicions but all you're doing is confirming them. You want to fight. It's pretty clear to me.
-You're now trying to use me as an excuse to get at other people.
-You're being really obvious now. Better enjoy it while it lasts because people will get sick of you soon enough.
-why pick that topic to post in when there are far better and more constructive ways to introduce oneself?
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[MENTION=14048]amad[/MENTION]

What you are is readily apparent and you cannot fix it by trying to make me look bad.
 
amad said:
If I am a business owner, I won't hire a homosexual, why? because I believe he is abusing himself and transgressing God's laws, nobody should force me to hire him. I wouldn't hire a liar who lies about his own identity, I wouldn't hire someone who is proud of being a sinner, and I am entitled to my own beliefs, do you know the amount of damage a homosexual inflicts on his own body? I would seriously not trust anybody who damages his body, and his soul, it is not only about his ability to do the work, it is also about his trustworthiness.
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They wouldn't want you to hire them either.

Also how could a homosexual adopt children, a child needs a father and a mother (and he has a father and a mother somewhere) why would we deny him a fatherly and motherly figures and substitute it by two females or two males, for me this is seriously wrong, not to mention the high probability of child molestation.
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So much for not forcing your beliefs on others.
 
amad said:
If I am a business owner, I won't hire a homosexual, why? because I believe he is abusing himself and transgressing God's laws, nobody should force me to hire him. I wouldn't hire a liar who lies about his own identity, I wouldn't hire someone who is proud of being a sinner, and I am entitled to my own beliefs, do you know the amount of damage a homosexual inflicts on his own body? I would seriously not trust anybody who damages his body, and his soul, it is not only about his ability to do the work, it is also about his trustworthiness.
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unfortunately, if you are a business owner, you are very likely to get sued for your discriminatory and unfair work practices.

the idea of "sin" is particular to your own religious beliefs and is not applicable to the life choices of others who do not share those beliefs; it is also particular to your own personal interpretation of religious sources, and may have nothing to do with how other people choose to actually live their religious lives.

it is regrettable that you are unable to trust others who are open and honest with you about the ways that their personal life choices might differ to your own, but of course thats your decision.

Also how could a homosexual adopt children, a child needs a father and a mother (and he has a father and a mother somewhere) why would we deny him a fatherly and motherly figures and substitute it by two females or two males, for me this is seriously wrong, not to mention the high probability of child molestation.
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a child does not need a father and a mother. what a child really needs is love and care. love and care can be adequately supplied by any loving, caring parents, regardless of their biological sex of their bodies.

it almost seems as though you would rather a child should be an orphan or live on the street than have a loving, caring, secure home.

again, you say "for me this is seriously wrong". whether it is wrong "for you" does not necessarily mean that it is seriously wrong for others. you are forcing your beliefs on others.

your statement about child molestation is wrong, irrational, baseless, and offensive, and is a good indication of the depth of the personal prejudice you nurture in your heart towards others regardless of the reality of how they live their lives.

it has been fun, but regrettably, i cant waste any more time chatting with you, because i need to play a video game. have a pleasant life, and afterlife.
 
[MENTION=1814]invisible[/MENTION],

I think it all boils down to someone letting his sexual urges control him/her, this is not love, this is a very inhumane form of sex that tries to imitate normal sex under the guise of love, but it can't and there is no satisfaction from it, that's why homosexuals usually get into depression or seek higher forms of sexual transgression (fisting..more partners..etc) just to fill the void that is getting even bigger with time.

The gay life style is destructive on the long run, not only for the individual but for a whole community, what if the percentage of gays increased everyday, that community will disappear even if they keep adopting children.

Just check the testimonials of children raised by gay parents, it is shocking and shows that it is not natural to have two parents from the same sex. Even 'animals' have fathers and mothers!

B.N. Klein, Robert Oscar Lopez, Dawn Stefanowicz, and Katy Faust all grew up with homosexual parents. All four argued that redefining marriage to include same-sex couples would harm children by depriving them of a mother or father.

In her brief, Dawn Stefanowicz described her experience living in a same-sex household.

“I wasn’t surrounded by average heterosexual couples,” she says in her court brief. “Dad’s partners slept and ate in our home, and they took me along to meeting places in the LGBT communities. I was exposed to overt sexual activities like sodomy, nudity, pornography, group sex, sadomasochism and the ilk.”

“There was no guarantee that any of my Dad’s partners would be around for long, and yet I often had to obey them,” she said. “My rights and innocence were violated.”

“I grew up with a parent and her partner in an atmosphere in which gay ideology was used as a tool of repression, retribution and abuse,” B.N. Klein wrote of her experience with a lesbian mother. “I have seen that children in gay households often become props to be publicly displayed to prove that gay families are just like heterosexual ones.”

Klein said she was taught that “some Jews and most Christians were stupid and hated gays and were violent,” and that homosexuals were “much more creative and artistic” because they were not repressed and were naturally more ‘feeling.’”

“At the same time I was given the message that if I did not agree (which I did not), I was stupid and damned to a life of punishing hostility from my mother and her partner,” she recounts. “They did this with the encouragement of all their gay friends in the community and they were like a cheering squad. I was only allowed out of my room to go to school. This could go on for weeks.”

“I was supposed to hate everyone based on what they thought of my mother and her partner,” said Klein. “People’s accomplishments did not matter, their personal struggles did not matter, and their own histories were of no consequence. The only thing that mattered was what they thought of gays.”

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/lau...-speak-out-against-gay-marriage-federal-court
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About child molestation, there are numerous incidents of it among gay couples, I am not saying that it is 100%, I said a high probability, for example.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xufh8XysHJ4[/youtube]
 
sprinkles said:
[MENTION=14048]amad[/MENTION]

And why would you think I'm stalking you? I'm going by public information and it isn't like there's a lot of information to sift through since you've hardly arrived here yet. That's really suspicious. You're also strangely combative for someone who supposedly has peaceful intentions.

You just keep acting more and more familiar.
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Curious, same age, gender, MBTI as the OP and saying exactly the same things (aside from bringing religion into it).

Could be a coincidence, but...

Curious.
 
This thread is the worst.

Just let people be who they really are. They're not hurting anyone. If this is our main concern, society will be just fine.
 
I like the idea of lower birthrate and increased adoptions ... even though this has nothing to do with the thread. /.02
 
ezra said:
This thread is the worst.

Just let people be who they really are. They're not hurting anyone. If this is our main concern, society will be just fine.
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I totally agree and don't encourage anybody to follow my opinion if he's not convinced, I also believe that there are no mistakes, God won't send a female soul into a man's body or vice versa, in the same time God wouldn't give you a male body to have sex with the same male body, they are incompatible, that's if we consider biology only and not the spiritual compatibility.

But I don't agree with the notion that they are not hurting anybody (apart from hurting themselves physically which they are free to do) the homosexual activists are attacking everybody that doesn't like their life styles, for example this happened in Canada:

For instance, in Saskatchewan, a homosexual man called a state marriage commissioner, wanting to “marry” his partner. The commissioner, an evangelical Christian, declined to conduct the ceremony for religious reasons. He simply referred the man to another commissioner.

But that was not enough for the gay couple. Even though they got their ceremony, they wanted to punish the Christian who had declined to conduct it. The case ended up in the courts. And the result? Those with religious objections to conducting such ceremonies now face the loss of their jobs.

http://cnsnews.com/commentary/eric-metaxas/how-does-gay-marriage-hurt-us-heres-how
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and this happened in America last month:

Oregon Labor Commissioner Brad Avakian finalized a preliminary ruling today ordering Aaron and Melissa Klein, the bakers who refused to make a cake for a same-sex wedding, to pay $135,000 in emotional damages to the couple they denied service.

http://dailysignal.com/2015/07/02/s...make-cake-for-lesbian-couple-fines-them-135k/
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That's not to mention forcing their life style on children in schools, and everyday in the media, it got out of control.
 
You all are far more nicer to [MENTION=14048]amad[/MENTION] than I could ever be. I did want to contribute something to this thread but now I am just sickened by the ignorance of the op and this person who's views and comments strikingly resemble the op. Is that why this thread was necroed in the first place?
Here's my opinion [MENTION=14048]amad[/MENTION], you absolutely disgust me. I'm sure my bisexuality and atheism disgust you as well. It's good to know who the real idiots are on this forum. For this, I should thank you. Everyone else pales in comparison to your holier than thou ignorance.
 
amad said:
I totally agree and don't encourage anybody to follow my opinion if he's not convinced, I also believe that there are no mistakes, God won't send a female soul into a man's body or vice versa, in the same time God wouldn't give you a male body to have sex with the same male body, they are incompatible, that's if we consider biology only and not the spiritual compatibility.

But I don't agree with the notion that they are not hurting anybody (apart from hurting themselves physically which they are free to do) the homosexual activists are attacking everybody that doesn't like their life styles, for example this happened in Canada:



and this happened in America last month:



That's not to mention forcing their life style on children in schools, and everyday in the media, it got out of control.
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This is probably the only thing I have agreed with you on so far. However I don't think the damage done here to these people is anywhere close to the damage many gays have suffered throughout their lives at the hands of others. I think both personal sexuallity and personal morality should be respected.
 
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