Vote (or not)

sweet mother of god
 
Stu said:
it is your right not to vote but you only give those who do vote more power. If you really don't like any of the candidates write in someone also, is there a gerrymandering question on your state ballot? or any other reform minded issue on there you could support? what about funding for education? or just voting against all the judges?
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I've recently moved to another state so I've yet to immerse myself in the issues. Frankly I'm fully occupied just settling in.

On the national level, I think I'm at the point where I can't name a politician that I would want to write in. As i've said- I'm waiting for the Dems to reform, because until then I've nobody to vote for.

Normally however I think less of people for not voting, this will be the first election I've missed since I became old enough to vote.
 
Illegal Immigration: It's About Power


The migrant 'caravan': '70 percent are single men'

 
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I just got the voter handbooks. This will take some research. Some of the propositions are pretty convoluted. I’m trying to vote issues and not parties. This is the first time I’ve ever voted midterm.
 
The fact that the polls show it's not an absolute steamrolling into the democrat direction demonstrates this country is full of complete morons
 
Wyote said:
The fact that the polls show it's not an absolute steamrolling into the democrat direction demonstrates this country is full of complete morons
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Stu said:
woo hoo!
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I hate to throw a spanner in the works but if you make all 22 million illegal immigrants into citizens and then accept everyone in the three caravans heading towards the US plus all the people who would then follow in their wake if they saw those people go in how are you going to maintain a viable country?

who is going to pay for the homes, schools, hospitals, policing, roads and other goods and services they will need?

also if your country then destabilises and the democrats then try to tax the rich to pay for it won't it see a rush of capital out of the US for example with many of your top billionaires fleeing to israel with their wealth? So who's going to pay for it all?

According to Forbes’ information no less than 139 of the 400 richest people (with more than $960 million in 2009) in the US are “Jews” – that’s more than 1 in 3.
eg
George Soros;
Carl Icahn;
Sheldon Adelson;
Len Blavatnik;
Stephen Schwarzman;

Edgar M. Bronfman;
Steve Wynn;
Leslie Wexner;
Tamir Sapir;
Alfred Taubman.
https://www.jta.org/2009/10/05/funde...400-are-jewish
 
kinglear said:
I hate to throw a spanner in the works but if you make all 22 million illegal immigrants into citizens and then accept everyone in the three caravans heading towards the US plus all the people who would then follow in their wake if they saw those people go in how are you going to maintain a viable country?

who is going to pay for the homes, schools, hospitals, policing, roads and other goods and services they will need?

also if your country then destabilises and the democrats then try to tax the rich to pay for it won't it see a rush of capital out of the US for example with many of your top billionaires fleeing to israel with their wealth? So who's going to pay for it all?

According to Forbes’ information no less than 139 of the 400 richest people (with more than $960 million in 2009) in the US are “Jews” – that’s more than 1 in 3.
eg
George Soros;
Carl Icahn;
Sheldon Adelson;
Len Blavatnik;
Stephen Schwarzman;

Edgar M. Bronfman;
Steve Wynn;
Leslie Wexner;
Tamir Sapir;
Alfred Taubman.
https://www.jta.org/2009/10/05/funde...400-are-jewish
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How is this not anti-semitic?
 
kinglear said:
I hate to throw a spanner in the works but if you make all 22 million illegal immigrants into citizens and then accept everyone in the three caravans heading towards the US plus all the people who would then follow in their wake if they saw those people go in how are you going to maintain a viable country?

who is going to pay for the homes, schools, hospitals, policing, roads and other goods and services they will need?

also if your country then destabilises and the democrats then try to tax the rich to pay for it won't it see a rush of capital out of the US for example with many of your top billionaires fleeing to israel with their wealth? So who's going to pay for it all?

According to Forbes’ information no less than 139 of the 400 richest people (with more than $960 million in 2009) in the US are “Jews” – that’s more than 1 in 3.
eg
George Soros;
Carl Icahn;
Sheldon Adelson;
Len Blavatnik;
Stephen Schwarzman;

Edgar M. Bronfman;
Steve Wynn;
Leslie Wexner;
Tamir Sapir;
Alfred Taubman.
https://www.jta.org/2009/10/05/funde...400-are-jewish
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And how many have German heritage? Or Irish? Or English?

Are you sure that this is not just a quirk of statistics?

I would like you to calculate the percentage of the richest 400 with German ancestry.
 
I went into to vote today - had to use a conditional ballot since I’ve moved. It was more people than I expected, though I wouldn’t say it was a tsunami of people. An angry older white guy talking loudly about ballots being stolen (by you know who :unamused:) and a younger white guy asking if the machines were hack-proof. A family came in together, that was nice to see, and an elderly Vietnamese couple who looked like they were voting for the first time. I pretty much voted with NARAL endorsed candidates because that’s what I care about. It was a little confusing and I’d suggest figuring out who to vote for before going in, especially on the judicial seats because there’s not a lot of information about them from the larger platforms. I think Trump voters are showing up in this election like they did last November.
 
Chickensoup said:
I went into to vote today - had to use a conditional ballot since I’ve moved. It was more people than I expected, though I wouldn’t say it was a tsunami of people. An angry older white guy talking loudly about ballots being stolen (by you know who :unamused:) and a younger white guy asking if the machines were hack-proof. A family came in together, that was nice to see, and an elderly Vietnamese couple who looked like they were voting for the first time. I pretty much voted with NARAL endorsed candidates because that’s what I care about. It was a little confusing and I’d suggest figuring out who to vote for before going in, especially on the judicial seats because there’s not a lot of information about them from the larger platforms. I think Trump voters are showing up in this election like they did last November.
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Here in OR, and WA, we get registered by the DMV (Department of Motor Vehicles for those overseas) and automatically mailed a ballot come voting time.
You can either mail it back or drop it off at a locked drop box area - no machines to hack.
If someone is stupid enough to get the ballot of someone else and fraudulently votes for them, it is a federal felony with automatic jail time, totally not worth the risk.
Not that voter fraud has been an issue in the slightest in either state - go figure.
No having to miss work to vote on a machine that may or may not be hacked...that may or may not have a back up paper receipt to check accuracy.
These ridiculous “voter fraud” laws are voter suppression plain and simple.
Strangely enough, more people vote here than many states...wonder why?
 
one hour latter and still working on the ballot, so many judges...thought I was wading thru the Torah....now the amendments, proudly my state has an independent commission for redistricting of congressional seats....its like a non partisan no brainer...one of the biggest flaws in the us constitution is letting the political parties gerrymander the districts.
 
30 mins later...groomer called gotta pick up the dogs (love voting by mail...its almost like they want you to vote)
 
Reason said:
@Stu I don't know why but I keep thinking you're British. Then I realize you are not... Then I forget again :(
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hi praise, It must me cuz i'm sooo cosmopolitan
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