INFJok
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Moreover trees and lights and Santa Claus and presents have nothing to do with Jesus at all. You don't need those to believe Jesus was born, but you can have them and yet NOT believe Jesus was born. Christmas tradition is a nonsensical mishmash of random sensational stuff, a lot of it pagan to begin with. When I say Christmas, that's what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about Jesus birthday which is a separate idea to me.
I hate it when people say,"Why don't you like Christmas, it's Jesus' birthday!" Like that's the dumbest shit I have EVER heard!
SOME INFO FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW:
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False Religions/Other Pagan Mumbo-Jumbo/christmas.htm