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  • mooseman
    1. I'm a bit slow and can't coordinate everything in a good way on the fly, so what do is I first build a couple of units with the intent of attacking, then I build some all-purpose stuff, and while I wait for that to build I run and attack with the first wave. Meanwhile I just let the second wave stay and "defend" (or just idle.) When the first wave is down I just repeat. The difficult part is when the battles get drawn out on the front for me. Then I feel I have to go to my base and manage resources while fighting. That's often a bit much.

    2. Someone did the cloaked Banshee trick on me recently. Since then I often try it just to see if the opponent forgets to build some anti-cloak unit. You're right about the maps. Especially Scrap Station is good for air harassment.

    Thanks for the games again. Fun fun.
    Now I'm exactly even on wins/losses since I started, which means I win a lot now. (Lost a lot in the beginning.)
    Morgain
    thanks for explaining, it makes it much clearer. I never heared that phrase before but you explained it very clear. I'll ponder on that idea, it is a great idea!
    Morgain
    <<i think those super high speeds depend very much on the car.>>
    that was his argument too. implying that in His Audi it wouldn't such an issue than in My Fiesta. It is correct concerning the people within the car but I don't think there is much different for the people outside who will be involved in an accident. It would still take more time to stop the car than when you are driving at a lower speed. Just don't drive that fast unless you are on francorchamps. And if you do, don't try that it is ok, it is not ok...!!!

    than give me an example of an argument that has a right point of view...

    I came back by plane, the troules where over the day before I departed to Barcelona.

    I don't understand exactly what you mean with that picture, I'm sorry :)))
    you want the avatar smaller than the others that I made? hm I wanted to make them all in the same format...
    Morgain
    he said he drove on the high way at 150 km/hour while the maximum speed is 120. I said it is dangerous to drive that fast. He said, what the hell is the difference between 120 and 150, it is both to fast to be able to stop. And when the road is all open than it is not a problem to drive even 200. You only need to be more allert so you can anticipate. I said, you can't anticipate at a speed of 150. He said at 120 either. After I said that it was even raining today he said, ow but I didn't drove 150 today (??????). This was one of the arguments.

    there are a lot of topics that have no good anwers like: "was it good that the Belgian colonized Congo?" What is the good answer? Yes, they have learned those people a lot, to bad that they messed it all up when the Belgian left (not our problem that they are to stupid and lazy)... or ... no they should have left those people alone and let them deal with there country themselves, it would have given them more responsibility and less dependable on Belgium ... ??? I think both answers have some truth in them, this is not a problem that has a simple answer and I think it is wrong and short-sighted to pin down a simple answer and stick to it. I would rather have a conversation with someone and explore all pro's and con's to the problem instead of a yes - no discussion. You learn more from an exploration, you discover points of view you have never thought of and you keep an open mind. It applies to all discussions in the world, if you try to keep open to the view point of the other party and try to figure out why they believe that, what caused that point of view (although that is not always that easy) it will be easier to find common grounds...

    the planes where not flying till the day before I left :) I was lucky!!

    I'll make an avatar for you. What do you mean with that picture, you want me to use it or was it a joke? :)

    in what country do you live?
    Morgain
    I had a date with an ENTP yesterday. I don't want to become general but I felt analysed the whole time. It was strange, the first date he seemed very interested in me and open to my weird point of views, but yesterday he had a firm vision about every topic we discussed and there was no way I could make him change it. I was with him are against him. I felt that I became very firm in my visions as well while normaly I'm not that way. I always want to contemplate, view all sides of the story and most of the times I never come with a conclusion. There is no good and bad side. But while taking with him I felt like I had to choose a side and to nack him I always choose the oposite side so we where arguing the whole time. He wasn't very open anymore. He analyses everything with his mind (he is a T after all) and when he has a logical proof of his vision you can't get him off of it unless you have a better logical proof. Belief or feelings are not a valuable proof... pff

    I went to Barcelona with the plane. Although I could go with the car but that is a 15 hour drive. Where in Europe do you live?
    Morgain
    same for me actually. I can never explain the workings of my inner world, especially not to an ENTP or something like that. Talking about it only deminishes and ridicules it

    what does it mean to not know your inner world very well, I find that strange. What do you do/think when you are driving in the car all by yourself?
    Morgain
    ah! I really want to know more about the workings of the ENFP inner world. My ENFP friend becomes sad and withdraws when I'm comming to close at her inner world, what in turn upsets me, did I something that is not ok?? :)
    arbygil
    No worries! From what I heard it wasn't a nice picture. And we have a few rules about links with that stuff on it, so out it went.
    arbygil
    Most of it is - but apparently there's a little link within it (or a possible redirect) that shows something...rather uncomfortable. Not everyone gets the nice words, it seems. :(
    Morgain
    I really can't remember how I was as child, was I really that innocent? I know I was very idealistic and very trustful in other people but the influences of my dad where very heavy so I don't really know where the cynisism started. My dad is suposetly an ISTJ and always brought me 'back to reality'. The older I got the more I realised that people are not as trustworthy as I thought. People can screw me under my nose without me even noticing because I'm so naive. When I realised that I closed myself up more and more. And that grew only worse when I couldn't seem to make friends in highschool. Also the wories and anxieties of other people can overwelm me. Quiet recently I changed the insurance of my building block to an other company but it took time to change from one to the other. But the agent that I chose is someone from my home village. My grandparents know him, my friends are client there and I think he can't afford to screw me up. But my co-owner was so frigtened that we where not insured in the inbetween time, and what if something happens??? So she sended me an email almost every day to ask the status and to whine that we maybe should never have changed in the first place. At some point she got me so far that I started to doubt myself and the ask myself whether my agent was as reliable as I thought. In the end all went well and I realised again that I SHOULD NEVER QUIESTION MY INTUITION. But since my father had comments on every step I made in the past, I question myself very often. And I hate it.

    How do you do it, being as innocent as a child? I doesn't dare to go that far. I'm affraid I will get screwed if I don't stay focussed at least a little bit.

    Do you have a girlfriend? and if yes, how do you keep close to yourself in her presence? Every time I get a boyfriend (or even close friends) I get so connected with how he wants me to be (at least how I think he wants me to be) and I loose the contact with myself. Now that I go to an empty place every evening, my place, it is easy to get back in touch. I never seem able to disconnect with that other person because I need to know his state of mind all the time...
    Morgain
    yeah, it is a beautiful city but I have decided that cities are not my cup of tea :) especially not ones that are crowed with tourists. Give me some meaningful unexplored mystical places! Although I would very much like to see the houses of Gaudi. They seem very INFP to me, almost a fairytale

    in Chinese Medicine there is a theory that the form of peoples head are due to the time of the year they are born. actually it depends on the time of conception. when the baby is growing inside its mothers belly, it gets seasonal influences. I don't know exactly how it was but it is something like this. For example if the conception was in the end of spring the baby grows during summer, fall and winter and so its head will be wide at the top (due to summers overflow) and narrow at the chin. This is not correct but it is something like that, I'll look it up if you're interested.

    my mother always said that I was always fighting for fairness when I was little. I still very much want things to be fair for everyone and can find sympathy for the worsed criminals (maybe not pedophyles) but I have a lost a lot of my idealism and took over the cinism of the people around me, unfortunately. But it seems not possible to be so idealism and remain sain at the same time in this world. I want harmony but I'm not strong enough to realise it.

    Are you, as ENFP, idealistic? When I think of my ENFP friend (she is on one of my pictures) she also seem to want harmony and everyone playing nicely together. But I think the difference between me and her is that, although I sometimes compromise to get harmony, it is only the top layer and my inside remains unaltered while with her, there seems to be not much of an inside core. Maybe I have to look closer.
    Morgain
    hey, sorry that I haven't replied earlier.
    To answer your second message, yes I have troubles with expressing myself. It seems that my passion completely melts down when I'm confronted with people. I then spend more energy in finding out what they want from me, how I should behave to get there acknowledgement and totaly forget what I want to say. I then totaly diminish my passions because I want to keep them save for judgement and mockery. I think you are right in saying that INFJs have more courage in expressing there passions to the public

    Did you know I'm aries looking at my birthday or was it a guess? I don't feel much like an Aries. But then again, my birthday is on the border between pisces and aries. I feel more like pisces unless I'm attacked, then I react like an aries in most cases :)

    me a classical heroine?? :)) yeah right, lol! The other woman is my mother indeed. I don't know her type. Definetely an I about the rest, not sure, I think a J because she is very organized and stricked in it. And the other letters I have no clue. But she has a depression and I think therefore I don't really see her the way she is inside...

    greetings from Barcelona!
    Bored Now
    I might've had a male muse, a time or two. Yes I do recall. I put them up on pedestals so high that i could only see their shadows, though. I suppose it was a lonely place but I figured my words would serve them better than my kisses anyway. It's odd, if i'm very in love with someone I can't write a true word about them until they are gone from me somehow. It's pretty perplexing. I don't know if I can kiss and worship at the same time. i'm writing a story about an angel who fell in love with a girl's loneliness. It doesn't end well for either of them, I'm afraid.

    You'd make a most interesting and delightful penpal I bet!
    Bored Now
    Do I blush?Frequently, I just run and hide when I do it. Same with the crying.i'm quite shy when it comes to odd things. Like compliments, it always takes me like a day and a half to respond to them because I'm off in a corner blushing.

    I wish interesting was a profession, although I always wanted to be a profession muse. I think I like inspiring more than I do creating. Creating is a last resort to alleviate boredom.I much rather play and chase butterflies.
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