Am I the only INFJ that has experimented with drugs?

[crunchymane]

Google ”MAPS MDMA PTSD”

I had a talk with my 10-year old daughter today about drugs as we listened to psytrance. She asked me with a serious face, ”Dad, have you ever taken drugs?” I laughted and said that sure, many times but I do not call them drugs, I call them medicine.” We ended up discussing about the difference between drugs and medicine and also what makes people to abuse any kind of substances.

I do not think that any substances are an answer to anything but they are great tools for questioning, especially psychoactive ones. They can show us where the problems are so that we can deal with them and rewire our thinking patterns. The hardest part is to integrate the insights that one has during the trips. A skillful therapist or psychopomp can help you to digest the experience. If it just about the fireworks, you will miss the beneficial opportunity to heal and grow as an individual.

I like the sober state of mind but occasionally I trip just to check myself and to pay attention to where I am aheading in my life.

Hope you find your tools to heal your PTSD!

Man, I mess with you hard body (if you don't understand, urbandiction!) as I've really enjoyed this response. In my 24 years, I haven't even experienced the worst but I've seen some stuff, felt some stuff. I was more curious to know of others that engaged in experimentation more than anything. I'm going to even stop smoking weed one day. I've taken 8-10 trips in my lifetime and I've only ever enjoyed 3-4 because I've had extremely bad trips, multiple times. I was so broken and bleeding, I was looking for solace. The last trip I had brought me here, out of curiosity. Having such an overwhelming set of emotions and then taking a drug that's supposed to induce the same is quite dangerous. It literally feels so horrible to me when I feel trapped and you can't just turn down a trip and quit.... Or eat some food to calm in down. Our brains are too extraordinary to handle it. It essentially placess non-feeling types on the same wavelengths that we are on.

 

[JustPhil]

@crunchymane 8 months dude.. 8 months we've been waiting with bated breath!! Waiting for something, anything for closure on this thread. Do you know how hard it is for INFJs to leave things open ended!

 

[crunchymane]

Hello there. Im a 33yo female INFJ. I believe I sought out drugs for most of my life from a few things. 1 being abused as a child and young adult2 not knowing what inter and intra personal intelligence was and how much it plays a part in who I am. I've tried a list of drugs and they all were fun and worth it in the moment but afterwards some of then made me completely unstable. I only smoke green nowadays with the only downside of getting anxiety from time to time. It's not as bad as it used to be.

I have experienced some of the same things. When I was trapped in alcohol addiction (only because I experienced DT and it was absolutely horrendous) I became unstable. Not a lick of family to be there for me. I sat in my room for 4 days talking to the walls and sweating my existence out of me, being as though the only thing I really had was that. My trauma and abuse were major proponents in all of that. Literally, if I wasn't so mentally strong/intact I would have killed myself with all the psychological abuse people have put me through lol.

 

[crunchymane]

@crunchymane 8 months dude.. 8 months we've been waiting with bated breath!! Waiting for something, anything for closure on this thread. Do you know how hard it is for INFJs to leave things open ended!

But, I came through just to do that for you all <3 really appreciate the insight from all of you guys! Been finishing up my last semester of UNI and working on building a gaming company and other things! One of my best friends (already knew he was) took the MBTI today so I was stuck in INFJ study mode xP. Sorry for being so late, have been extremely overwhelmed and busy =/

 

[crunchymane]

Hey @crunchymane . Woo, drugs. I had some too. Mushrooms are definitely fun, I had them just once though. I also tried some psychedelic thing which I don't even know what it was...it made me dance with trees...fun. I took ecstasy...cocaine, opium, weed...uhm...and other things probably. I also took xanax, but that was because I had anxiety, it was a prescription drug...The worse for me is weed, it makes me sick. Anyway, there are various reasons as to why I took them. Curiosity, wanting to face my subconscious, being able to act socially...getting me out of apathy...impulsivity, self destructive behaviour.
a little thing I could say out of my experience is...there are better ways to do what you can do with drugs. You seriously want to try psychedelics because you genuinely want to learn something about yourself? Find a shaman, someone who could guide you through it and give you good stuff. That's probably the only use of drugs that makes sense in my opinion, unless you use a modest amount of good weed to relax or whatever...I would say that it's almost like drinking a glass of wine. Otherwise it's all harmful shit. We are much more delicate and complex than we think, and there is already enough in our lifes that can seriously mess up with our heads.
I don't even smoke(cigarettes) or drink anymore because I realised the enormous effect that even those "light" substances have on me.
But I understand the fascination very well...

The last part just brought me back down into sadness as my mother is an INFJ and she abused drugs and is now experiencing schizophrenia. My grandmother is a very poisonous person. She has literally brought our whole family down into shambles. We went from a 2 story house in Florida, living in a white neighborhood as an African-American family (I think the only in the development), to living in a 2 bedroom apartment because she is so forceful to face herself. I'm confident in saying I have found myself. 2 years ago today I was homeless. That wasn't my fault. I have NEVER IN MY LIFE veered off of my path. Using marijuana has always been to reduce anxiety because.. based on my claim of my mom being a corrupt INFJ, she knew exactly where she could hurt me. I wish she never had to experience all that pain. I can not even begin to fathom how she felt as I have felt her bleed all of my life, and I used to try to ignore it because I literally had NO one to be there for me and talk to me how I needed. But, I'm 24 and I thought I would have erased her from my life. I want nothing more but to ensure that my mother is the most happy woman in the world. I feel like such a piece of shit. I have always felt like my mom was jealous of me... But that's because she was... BECAUSE MY SHITTY grandmother left her to suffer. My grandmother is naturally drawn to my face because I am a spitting image of my grandfather (I believe he is also a corrupt INFJ, he's very similar to me but I believe he has been nurtured to believe sensitivity is weakness... he is an alcoholic. What do you think?) and she took a liking to me. It just sucks to be born into such a crazy situation dude.

But, I'm doing just fine. I graduate on December 14th with my bach in comp sci! I hope to attend law school, If I can balance it out with a full time job, so that I can help those who are oppressed in our world.

 

[crunchymane]

I haven't seen it as an escape, but a type of enhancement. When I am around people I see it as an hindrance.

When I read your thread title this comment was the first thought that came into my mind. Most of my friends smoked weed like it was air (being a musician at the time). My friends knew me pretty well and how I reacted with it. The only time I do it is when fishing by myself. This is heaven to me.

About the posting as a whole, I have no problem with people doing anything non-harmful for recreation. Most people can keep a steady job and function just fine.

That sounds like such a great vibe. I haven't had the chance to experience that yet. I only find certain strains of sativa to be a 100% ench for me, if you read in these responses to comment by me you'll find that I had a milk allergy. I literally lived through hell for 18 years because of some cow's titty juice. I only experience extreme anxiety when I have a week with minimal sleep. Very happy to know that there are other INFJs that feel at piece in/around water. I was born in a beach town and water is so calming and the literal epitome of meditation to me.

 

[crunchymane]

INFJ's can be extremely sensitive... Any "thing" you do will cause paranoia if you don't fully trust the people you are with. If you are with people who have a good feel to you, you will have a less anxious experience and a more enjoyable experience... But uh..

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I think that covers everything... I'm a little paranoid... Right now

I agree, I don't think weed is bad. But I'm kind of growing out of it. I've been finally getting my natural high back... Trauma and abuse can really steal your life from right under you. I have experienced that paranoia, countless times. I grew up with an extroverted uncle that was 3 years old than me. He has many toxic traits and isn't an advocate for growth so you can most likely place the people he's around. Maybe I framed my life and put myself in the box with him when I was choosing friends like his.

 

[crunchymane]

I cant even bother reading all of this, but you sure are not alone. The question is what you want to achieve with them. If you want to escape yourself then no drug will help that, but if you want to understand yourself in introspect then it is all good to experiment. I dont want to say that go and have fun kid, but if you want yo understand yourself and what you want from life, what you want to understand then use them wisely, pick a mission. I've tried lsd, psychedelics and the speedy ones to reach that point of understanding that the only work I need is my own life. Dont escape, seek understanding and purpose

I fw you! I really enjoy this sentiment. Ya could have told me 6 years ago. I'm not a kid either, so please show some respect. I didn't know there was life around these parts until I found my own heart beating.

 

[crunchymane]

Been there, done that. . the thing is when the high wears off you're still you and the issues remain. They are simply an escape from reality. . .better to face your reality and process it, cause wherever you go, there you are

Eh, well on one hand I agree with that and through growth I've already engaged on a deeper level with myself to solidify that knowledge in my brain. I don't need drugs. The thing was that no one told me I was bleeding, no one helped me to grow out of that. People were hurting me everyday because they were broken. I experienced that on a daily basis for 18-20 years. What's an escape from existence when you are honest with yourself? Maybe you see it in a different way because of your experience. #Nofufu (lol sorry, been waiting to post that. it's a hash tag one of my fave prod. has created) but I have always been honest with myself. I've always almost only had myself.

 

[crunchymane]

I've decided that drugs are not for me anymore. I'm completely doing away with the alcohol, last night was my last time drinking. I figured out so much today. I previously mentioned that I had a milk allergy. This is false. I actually suffer from Lactose Intolerance because I'm African-American and it's quite common as we don't produce large amount of lactose like Europeans do. This is because cows are native to that region and not Africa. Intolerance can cause fatigue, which is more or less the cookie cutter root cause of anxiety, depression and anger disorders in those affected my Li and who still use dairy products. It's quite common for this to go hand in hand with casein sensitivity. Casein a dairy protein found in milk and beef. It is also linked with cancer in wealthy children. I have been taking adderall as a medication for like 3-4 years now because I thought I actually had ADHD because milk allergies weren't linked to it. However, food sensitivity of any sort NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IMMEDIATELY. When I tell you that my whole family has suffered generations with not knowing that dairy, beef and maybe even gluten were the culprits it sounds so simple. It was hell for me. I literally am like a ticking time bomb if I accidentally ingest milk. If you have any black friends with lactose intolerance PLEASE LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THIS!

Below are a couple of resources surrounding this topic. The last link is from a MD on the topic:
http://haphazardoushousewife.blogspot.com/2012/03/how-dairy-allergy-can-ruin-your-life-or.html
https://www.fastcompany.com/3068786/what-happened-when-i-gave-up-gluten-sugar-dairy-and-coffee
https://kellybroganmd.com/two-foods...2zSNMcKX4Rm-277redrFuLqH6hCdk3QQqc4hy1Ne_BcyI

 

[David54]

I recently moved home. Here, marijuana is legal and readily available. . just go to the nearest weed shop, and there are plenty. But I'm just not interested.

 

[noisebloom]

Anytime I've offered an INFJ drugs...

INFJ:

 

[Daustus]

Anytime I've offered an INFJ drugs...

INFJ:

Accurate