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[h=2]Shock Video Catches Another Top Planned Parenthood Doctor Selling Body Parts of Aborted Babies[/h] National Steven Ertelt Jul 21, 2015 | 8:05AM Washington, DC
A second shocking video in as many weeks has been released showing a top Planned Parenthood official discussing and arranging the sale of body parts of aborted babies. The first video shows Planned Parenthood Federation of America’s Senior Director of Medical Services, Dr. Deborah Nucatola, describing how Planned Parenthood sells the body parts of aborted unborn children and admitting she uses partial-birth abortions to supply intact body parts.
In this video, Mary Gatter, the Medical director at Planned Parenthood Pasadena and San Gabriel Valley in Calfiornia, discusses selling aborted baby body parts with undercover investigators posing as officials with a biotech company that acts as a middleman to sell aborted baby body parts to universities and other places that conduct such research. Gatter is a senior official within Planned Parenthood and is President of the Medical Directors’ Council, the central committee of all Planned Parenthood affiliate medical directors.
Gatter discusses the pricing of aborted baby body parts — telling the biotech company officials that the prices for such things as a baby’s liver, head or heart are negotiable. She also tells the officials that she could talk with the Planned Parenthood abortion practitioners to potentially alter the abortion procedure to kill the baby in a way that would best preserve those body parts after the unborn child is killed in the abortion.
(FULL UNEDITED VIDEO AT BOTTOM OF THIS POST)
The video shows Gatter haggling over payments for intact fetal specimens and offering to use a “less crunchy technique” to get more intact body parts.
Actors posing as buyers ask Gatter, “What would you expect for intact [fetal] tissue?
“Well, why don’t you start by telling me what you’re used to paying!” Gatter replies.
SIGN THE PETITION! Congress Must De-Fund Planned Parenthood Immediately
Gatter continues: “You know, in negotiations whoever throws out the figure first is at a loss, right?” She explains, “I just don’t want to lowball,” before suggesting, “$75 a specimen.”
Gatter twice recites Planned Parenthood messaging on fetal tissue collection, “We’re not in it for the money,” and “The money is not the important thing,” but she immediately qualifies each statement with, respectively, “But what were you thinking of?” and, “But it has to be big enough that it’s worthwhile for me.”
Gatter also admits that in prior fetal tissue deals, Planned Parenthood received payment in spite of incurring no cost: “It was logistically very easy for us, we didn’t have to do anything. So there was compensation for this.” She accepts a higher price of $100 per specimen understanding that it will be only for high-quality fetal organs: “Now, this is for tissue that you actually take, not just tissue that someone volunteers and you can’t find anything, right?”
By the lunch’s end, Gatter suggests $100 per specimen is not enough and concludes, “Let me just figure out what others are getting, and if this is in the ballpark, then it’s fine, if it’s still low, then we can bump it up. I want a Lamborghini.”
Gatter also suggests modifying the abortion procedure to get more intact fetuses: “I wouldn’t object to asking Ian, who’s our surgeon who does the cases, to use an IPAS [manual vacuum aspirator] at that gestational age in order to increase the odds that he’s going to get an intact specimen.”
Gatter seems aware this violates rules governing tissue collection, but disregards them: “To me, that’s kind of a specious little argument.” Federal law requires that no alteration in the timing or method of abortion be done for the purposes of fetal tissue collection (42 U.S.C. 289g-1).
The video, like last week’s featuring Dr. Nucatola, was produced by The Center for Medical Progress and is part of CMP’s nearly 3-year-long investigative journalism study, “Human Capital.”
CMP’s Project Lead David Daleiden notes, “Planned Parenthood’s top leadership admits they harvest aborted baby parts and receive payments for this. Planned Parenthood’s only denial is that they make money off of baby parts, but that is a desperate lie that becomes more and more untenable as CMP reveals Planned Parenthood’s business operations and statements that prove otherwise.”
Troy Newman, President of Operation Rescue, who was also involved in putting the investigative expose’ video together told LifeNews that the refutes Cecile Richards’ claim that there is no profit for Planned Parenthood and raises further questions about the unethical altering of procedures to one “less crunchy.”
“The statements in the Gatter video prove that Cecile Richards flat-out lied when she said that Planned Parenthood does not profit in any way from the sale of aborted baby parts. It takes a lot of baby livers to buy a Lamborghini,” said Troy Newman, President of Operation Rescue. “And now it also appears that Planned Parenthood is also lying to women, altering their procedures in order to get body parts that can be sold for profit. These represent serious legal and ethical breeches for which Planned Parenthood must be held accountable.”
In the first video, as LifeNews reported, new undercover footage shows Planned Parenthood Federation of America’s Senior Director of Medical Services, Dr. Deborah Nucatola, describing how Planned Parenthood sells the body parts of aborted unborn children and admitting she uses partial-birth abortions to supply intact body parts. Nucatola is an Obama administration adviser.
Reacting to the video, President Barack Obama’s top spokesman Josh Earnest indicated Obama will definitely not agree with pro-life Republicans in Congress to revoke funding for the Planned Parenthood abortion business.
[video=youtube;MjCs_gvImyw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjCs_gvImyw[/video]
The answer from Obama’s spokesman is not surprising give a new report that Planned Parenthood’s Nucatola serves on the board of a pro-abortion sex ed group founded by a former Obama administration official and whose board includes current Obama administration staff.
Obama has spoken before Planned Parenthood’s national conference, the abortion giant endorsed and worked closely with Obama and his administration, and its CEO Cecile Richards has hobnobbed with Obama at White House functions.
In the video, Nucatola is at a business lunch with actors posing as buyers from a human biologics company. As head of PPFA’s Medical Services department, Nucatola has overseen medical practice at all Planned Parenthood locations since 2009. She also trains new Planned Parenthood abortion doctors and performs abortions herself at Planned Parenthood Los Angeles up to 24 weeks.
Nucatola admits that Planned Parenthood charges per-specimen for baby body parts, uses pseudo-partial-birth abortion procedures in order to get salable parts, and is aware of their own liability for doing so and takes steps to cover it up.
In the first video, Nucatola admits that Planned Parenthood charges per-specimen for baby body parts, uses illegal partial-birth abortion procedures in order to get salable parts, and is aware of their own liability for doing so and takes steps to cover it up.
The footage shockingly depicts the top medical official at the Planned Parenthood corporation munching on her salad while she discusses the sale of body parts of unborn children victimized by abortions. She brazenly describes how the heads of unborn babies killed in abortions command top dollar.
The buyers ask Nucatola, “How much of a difference can that actually make, if you know kind of what’s expected, or what we need?”
SIGN THE PETITION! Congress Must Investigate Planned Parenthood for Selling Aborted Baby Parts
“It makes a huge difference,” Nucatola replies. “I’d say a lot of people want liver. And for that reason, most providers will do this case under ultrasound guidance, so they’ll know where they’re putting their forceps. The kind of rate-limiting step of the procedure is calvarium. Calvarium—the head—is basically the biggest part.”
Nucatola explains, “We’ve been very good at getting heart, lung, liver, because we know that, so I’m not gonna crush that part, I’m gonna basically crush below, I’m gonna crush above, and I’m gonna see if I can get it all intact.”
“And with the calvarium, in general, some people will actually try to change the presentation so that it’s not vertex,” she continues. “So if you do it starting from the breech presentation, there’s dilation that happens as the case goes on, and often, the last step, you can evacuate an intact calvarium at the end.”
In a video response to the heavy criticism, Planned Parenthood CEO Cecile Richards apologizes for the tone the Nucatola took but not for selling the body parts of aborted babies.
Over the last few days, nearly every Republican candidate for president as well as countless lawmakers have expressed their outrage regarding the video and called on Congress to defund Planned Parenthood. A total of six states are slated to begin investigations of the Planned Parenthood abortion business.
Dr. Nucatola said, “You’re just kind of cognizant of where you put your graspers, you try to intentionally go above and below the thorax, so that, you know, we’ve been very good at getting heart, lung, liver, because we know that, so I’m not gonna crush that part, I’m going to basically crush below, I’m gonna crush above, and I’m gonna see if I can get it all intact.”
The abortionist also explains that Planned Parenthood charges per-specimen for baby body parts and is aware of their own liability for doing so. When asked about a price, she said, “I would say it’s probably anywhere from $30 to $100, depending on the facility and what’s involved.” Unbelievably, she admits that some body parts, such as livers and heads, are much more popular and go for a higher price than other specimen.
David Daleiden, the founder of the group Center for Medical Progress told CBS News, “Planned Parenthood is still receiving $50, $75, sometimes $100 per specimen per fetal part. So all of that is just straight up profit that goes to their bottom line.”
VIEW THE FULL UNEDITED VIDEO BELOW:
[video=youtube;vwAGsjoorvk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwAGsjoorvk[/video]
[h=2]Shock Video Catches Another Top Planned Parenthood Doctor Selling Body Parts of Aborted Babies[/h] National Steven Ertelt Jul 21, 2015 | 8:05AM Washington, DC
A second shocking video in as many weeks has been released showing a top Planned Parenthood official discussing and arranging the sale of body parts of aborted babies. The first video shows Planned Parenthood Federation of America’s Senior Director of Medical Services, Dr. Deborah Nucatola, describing how Planned Parenthood sells the body parts of aborted unborn children and admitting she uses partial-birth abortions to supply intact body parts.
In this video, Mary Gatter, the Medical director at Planned Parenthood Pasadena and San Gabriel Valley in Calfiornia, discusses selling aborted baby body parts with undercover investigators posing as officials with a biotech company that acts as a middleman to sell aborted baby body parts to universities and other places that conduct such research. Gatter is a senior official within Planned Parenthood and is President of the Medical Directors’ Council, the central committee of all Planned Parenthood affiliate medical directors.
Gatter discusses the pricing of aborted baby body parts — telling the biotech company officials that the prices for such things as a baby’s liver, head or heart are negotiable. She also tells the officials that she could talk with the Planned Parenthood abortion practitioners to potentially alter the abortion procedure to kill the baby in a way that would best preserve those body parts after the unborn child is killed in the abortion.
(FULL UNEDITED VIDEO AT BOTTOM OF THIS POST)
The video shows Gatter haggling over payments for intact fetal specimens and offering to use a “less crunchy technique” to get more intact body parts.
Actors posing as buyers ask Gatter, “What would you expect for intact [fetal] tissue?
“Well, why don’t you start by telling me what you’re used to paying!” Gatter replies.
SIGN THE PETITION! Congress Must De-Fund Planned Parenthood Immediately
Gatter continues: “You know, in negotiations whoever throws out the figure first is at a loss, right?” She explains, “I just don’t want to lowball,” before suggesting, “$75 a specimen.”
Gatter twice recites Planned Parenthood messaging on fetal tissue collection, “We’re not in it for the money,” and “The money is not the important thing,” but she immediately qualifies each statement with, respectively, “But what were you thinking of?” and, “But it has to be big enough that it’s worthwhile for me.”
Gatter also admits that in prior fetal tissue deals, Planned Parenthood received payment in spite of incurring no cost: “It was logistically very easy for us, we didn’t have to do anything. So there was compensation for this.” She accepts a higher price of $100 per specimen understanding that it will be only for high-quality fetal organs: “Now, this is for tissue that you actually take, not just tissue that someone volunteers and you can’t find anything, right?”
By the lunch’s end, Gatter suggests $100 per specimen is not enough and concludes, “Let me just figure out what others are getting, and if this is in the ballpark, then it’s fine, if it’s still low, then we can bump it up. I want a Lamborghini.”
Gatter also suggests modifying the abortion procedure to get more intact fetuses: “I wouldn’t object to asking Ian, who’s our surgeon who does the cases, to use an IPAS [manual vacuum aspirator] at that gestational age in order to increase the odds that he’s going to get an intact specimen.”
Gatter seems aware this violates rules governing tissue collection, but disregards them: “To me, that’s kind of a specious little argument.” Federal law requires that no alteration in the timing or method of abortion be done for the purposes of fetal tissue collection (42 U.S.C. 289g-1).
The video, like last week’s featuring Dr. Nucatola, was produced by The Center for Medical Progress and is part of CMP’s nearly 3-year-long investigative journalism study, “Human Capital.”
CMP’s Project Lead David Daleiden notes, “Planned Parenthood’s top leadership admits they harvest aborted baby parts and receive payments for this. Planned Parenthood’s only denial is that they make money off of baby parts, but that is a desperate lie that becomes more and more untenable as CMP reveals Planned Parenthood’s business operations and statements that prove otherwise.”
Troy Newman, President of Operation Rescue, who was also involved in putting the investigative expose’ video together told LifeNews that the refutes Cecile Richards’ claim that there is no profit for Planned Parenthood and raises further questions about the unethical altering of procedures to one “less crunchy.”
“The statements in the Gatter video prove that Cecile Richards flat-out lied when she said that Planned Parenthood does not profit in any way from the sale of aborted baby parts. It takes a lot of baby livers to buy a Lamborghini,” said Troy Newman, President of Operation Rescue. “And now it also appears that Planned Parenthood is also lying to women, altering their procedures in order to get body parts that can be sold for profit. These represent serious legal and ethical breeches for which Planned Parenthood must be held accountable.”
In the first video, as LifeNews reported, new undercover footage shows Planned Parenthood Federation of America’s Senior Director of Medical Services, Dr. Deborah Nucatola, describing how Planned Parenthood sells the body parts of aborted unborn children and admitting she uses partial-birth abortions to supply intact body parts. Nucatola is an Obama administration adviser.
Reacting to the video, President Barack Obama’s top spokesman Josh Earnest indicated Obama will definitely not agree with pro-life Republicans in Congress to revoke funding for the Planned Parenthood abortion business.
[video=youtube;MjCs_gvImyw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjCs_gvImyw[/video]
The answer from Obama’s spokesman is not surprising give a new report that Planned Parenthood’s Nucatola serves on the board of a pro-abortion sex ed group founded by a former Obama administration official and whose board includes current Obama administration staff.
Obama has spoken before Planned Parenthood’s national conference, the abortion giant endorsed and worked closely with Obama and his administration, and its CEO Cecile Richards has hobnobbed with Obama at White House functions.
In the video, Nucatola is at a business lunch with actors posing as buyers from a human biologics company. As head of PPFA’s Medical Services department, Nucatola has overseen medical practice at all Planned Parenthood locations since 2009. She also trains new Planned Parenthood abortion doctors and performs abortions herself at Planned Parenthood Los Angeles up to 24 weeks.
Nucatola admits that Planned Parenthood charges per-specimen for baby body parts, uses pseudo-partial-birth abortion procedures in order to get salable parts, and is aware of their own liability for doing so and takes steps to cover it up.
In the first video, Nucatola admits that Planned Parenthood charges per-specimen for baby body parts, uses illegal partial-birth abortion procedures in order to get salable parts, and is aware of their own liability for doing so and takes steps to cover it up.
The footage shockingly depicts the top medical official at the Planned Parenthood corporation munching on her salad while she discusses the sale of body parts of unborn children victimized by abortions. She brazenly describes how the heads of unborn babies killed in abortions command top dollar.
The buyers ask Nucatola, “How much of a difference can that actually make, if you know kind of what’s expected, or what we need?”
SIGN THE PETITION! Congress Must Investigate Planned Parenthood for Selling Aborted Baby Parts
“It makes a huge difference,” Nucatola replies. “I’d say a lot of people want liver. And for that reason, most providers will do this case under ultrasound guidance, so they’ll know where they’re putting their forceps. The kind of rate-limiting step of the procedure is calvarium. Calvarium—the head—is basically the biggest part.”
Nucatola explains, “We’ve been very good at getting heart, lung, liver, because we know that, so I’m not gonna crush that part, I’m gonna basically crush below, I’m gonna crush above, and I’m gonna see if I can get it all intact.”
“And with the calvarium, in general, some people will actually try to change the presentation so that it’s not vertex,” she continues. “So if you do it starting from the breech presentation, there’s dilation that happens as the case goes on, and often, the last step, you can evacuate an intact calvarium at the end.”
In a video response to the heavy criticism, Planned Parenthood CEO Cecile Richards apologizes for the tone the Nucatola took but not for selling the body parts of aborted babies.
Over the last few days, nearly every Republican candidate for president as well as countless lawmakers have expressed their outrage regarding the video and called on Congress to defund Planned Parenthood. A total of six states are slated to begin investigations of the Planned Parenthood abortion business.
Dr. Nucatola said, “You’re just kind of cognizant of where you put your graspers, you try to intentionally go above and below the thorax, so that, you know, we’ve been very good at getting heart, lung, liver, because we know that, so I’m not gonna crush that part, I’m going to basically crush below, I’m gonna crush above, and I’m gonna see if I can get it all intact.”
The abortionist also explains that Planned Parenthood charges per-specimen for baby body parts and is aware of their own liability for doing so. When asked about a price, she said, “I would say it’s probably anywhere from $30 to $100, depending on the facility and what’s involved.” Unbelievably, she admits that some body parts, such as livers and heads, are much more popular and go for a higher price than other specimen.
David Daleiden, the founder of the group Center for Medical Progress told CBS News, “Planned Parenthood is still receiving $50, $75, sometimes $100 per specimen per fetal part. So all of that is just straight up profit that goes to their bottom line.”
VIEW THE FULL UNEDITED VIDEO BELOW:
[video=youtube;vwAGsjoorvk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwAGsjoorvk[/video]
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http://www.naturalnews.com/050539_Planned_Parenthood_science_terrorism_violence.html
[h=1]How violent 'science' extremism is the true terrorist threat in America today[/h] Tuesday, July 14, 2015 by: J. D. Heyes
Tags: Planned Parenthood, science terrorism, violence
In the wake of recent revelations that Planned Parenthood was allegedly engaged in the ghoulish practice of selling the body parts of aborted babies, millions of Americans are asking what happened to the soul of their country, and whether it is possible to ever get it back.
If you've been following the horrific story, you know that the excuse Planned Parenthood officials gave for engaging in this disgusting practice was to advance biotech "science." As Breitbart News reported July 14:
An undercover video shot last summer by a new pro-life organization called Center for Medical Progress purports to show the chief medical officer of Planned Parenthood of America talking on camera about how to abort a child intact so the child's body parts can be transferred for medical and scientific research.
The video also shows what is purported to be an actual online order form from Stem Express complete with a pull-down menu for "brain, heart, heart (veins and arteries attached), lungs, liver, liver and thymus, spleen, large intestine" and so on. The order form also specifies the "gestational range" from 4 weeks upwards.
Students of history will remember, too, that Nazi "doctor" Josef Mengele, also known as the Angel of Death, is infamous for his abuse and "scientific" experimentation on prisoners at the Auschwitz concentration camp. As noted by the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum:
He...attempted to demonstrate the "degeneration" of Jewish and "Gypsy" blood through the documentation of physical oddities and the collection and harvesting of tissue samples and body parts. Many of his "test subjects" died as a result of the experimentation or were murdered in order to facilitate post-mortem examination.
[h=2]Burying the truth or blaming the messengers[/h]The historical reasons for questioning what the media tells you goes back to this time during 1939-1945. During these war years, the world's most influential daily was The New York Times, and even then top editors of the renowned paper deliberately downplayed the Holocaust, at times even ignoring it or denying it altogether, according to the book "Buried by the Times."
History is repeating itself in regards to the style of denial and misdirection being propagated by the media, in this case the story of Planned Parenthood. Media outlets continue to de-emphasize the Planned Parenthood scandal, and in some egregious instances, even defend the practice that Planned Parenthood has allegedly engaged in.
All in the name of "science," "a woman's choice," or the "betterment of society."
Others who have committed mass murder have done so in the name of science. On April 19, 1995, former Army soldiers Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols exploded a massive truck bomb outside the Alfred P. Murrah Building in downtown Oklahoma City just as the workday was beginning.
Following his arrest and trial, a number of mostly left-wing media outlets began to portray McVeigh as a Christian killer whose religious views somehow contributed to his heinous act of terrorism. But as many other researchers, pundits and journalists have pointed out since, McVeigh – who did admit he grew up Catholic – was an agnostic who once told an interviewer, "Science is my religion," and that he did not believe in hell.
Then there is the case of the "death doctor," Farid Fata, a Detroit-area oncologist who subjected patients to harmful, health-robbing cancer treatments like chemotherapy, even though they didn't have cancer. In October, the Washington Post reported that under Michigan law, Fata could get his medical license back after just five years; it was revoked in January 2014.
[h=2]Science as terrorism, terrorism as science[/h]It's not likely that Fata will ever practice medicine again; he faces 175 years in prison after confessing to 13 counts of health-care fraud, one count of conspiracy to pay or receive kickbacks and two counts of money laundering. But the notion that he could once again hold a medical license he used to maim and kill is outrageous.
There are also instances of violence when the people begin to question the alleged scientific facts from corporation likes Monsanto. Pushback in the form of violence from chemical companies like Monsanto doesn't occur just domestically in the United States, but even in rural regions of Argentina. A lecture for a small community, La Leonesa, was attacked before the Professor could even meet with the town to discuss the destructive effects of glyphosate.
Other examples of science as terrorism includes the recently passed California law, SB 277, requiring all parents of public- and private-school children to expose them to vaccines that have harmed, maimed and killed scores of children. Like cultist Nazis, supporters of the bill, including Gov. Jerry Brown, who readily signed it, had no regard for parent choice and merely parroted the oft-repeated lie that "all vaccines are safe."
Terrorism is a very powerful word, but increasingly progressive social engineers and the cultural elite are resorting to some level of intellectual and physical political violence to enforce their will and demand conformity from the masses, and of course, that's the textbook definition of terrorism – violence in the pursuit of a political goal or aim.
As with the GMO debate, anthropogenic global warming/climate change, and, of course, vaccines, "because science" is the rallying cry of the howling banshees on the progressive Left who want to supplant genuine science – the testing and questioning of things in order to discover a more accurate truth – with feel-good activism.
It doesn't bode well for science, in general, and it certainly won't help us recover the soul of our nation.
Sources:
http://www.naturalnews.com
http://www.breitbart.com
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007060
http://www.centerformedicalprogress.org/cmp/investigative-footage/
http://www.history.com/topics/oklahoma-city-bombing
http://www.washingtonpost.com
http://dictionary.reference.com
http://www2.amnesty.se
[h=1]How violent 'science' extremism is the true terrorist threat in America today[/h] Tuesday, July 14, 2015 by: J. D. Heyes
Tags: Planned Parenthood, science terrorism, violence
In the wake of recent revelations that Planned Parenthood was allegedly engaged in the ghoulish practice of selling the body parts of aborted babies, millions of Americans are asking what happened to the soul of their country, and whether it is possible to ever get it back.
If you've been following the horrific story, you know that the excuse Planned Parenthood officials gave for engaging in this disgusting practice was to advance biotech "science." As Breitbart News reported July 14:
An undercover video shot last summer by a new pro-life organization called Center for Medical Progress purports to show the chief medical officer of Planned Parenthood of America talking on camera about how to abort a child intact so the child's body parts can be transferred for medical and scientific research.
The video also shows what is purported to be an actual online order form from Stem Express complete with a pull-down menu for "brain, heart, heart (veins and arteries attached), lungs, liver, liver and thymus, spleen, large intestine" and so on. The order form also specifies the "gestational range" from 4 weeks upwards.
Students of history will remember, too, that Nazi "doctor" Josef Mengele, also known as the Angel of Death, is infamous for his abuse and "scientific" experimentation on prisoners at the Auschwitz concentration camp. As noted by the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum:
He...attempted to demonstrate the "degeneration" of Jewish and "Gypsy" blood through the documentation of physical oddities and the collection and harvesting of tissue samples and body parts. Many of his "test subjects" died as a result of the experimentation or were murdered in order to facilitate post-mortem examination.
[h=2]Burying the truth or blaming the messengers[/h]The historical reasons for questioning what the media tells you goes back to this time during 1939-1945. During these war years, the world's most influential daily was The New York Times, and even then top editors of the renowned paper deliberately downplayed the Holocaust, at times even ignoring it or denying it altogether, according to the book "Buried by the Times."
History is repeating itself in regards to the style of denial and misdirection being propagated by the media, in this case the story of Planned Parenthood. Media outlets continue to de-emphasize the Planned Parenthood scandal, and in some egregious instances, even defend the practice that Planned Parenthood has allegedly engaged in.
All in the name of "science," "a woman's choice," or the "betterment of society."
Others who have committed mass murder have done so in the name of science. On April 19, 1995, former Army soldiers Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols exploded a massive truck bomb outside the Alfred P. Murrah Building in downtown Oklahoma City just as the workday was beginning.
Following his arrest and trial, a number of mostly left-wing media outlets began to portray McVeigh as a Christian killer whose religious views somehow contributed to his heinous act of terrorism. But as many other researchers, pundits and journalists have pointed out since, McVeigh – who did admit he grew up Catholic – was an agnostic who once told an interviewer, "Science is my religion," and that he did not believe in hell.
Then there is the case of the "death doctor," Farid Fata, a Detroit-area oncologist who subjected patients to harmful, health-robbing cancer treatments like chemotherapy, even though they didn't have cancer. In October, the Washington Post reported that under Michigan law, Fata could get his medical license back after just five years; it was revoked in January 2014.
[h=2]Science as terrorism, terrorism as science[/h]It's not likely that Fata will ever practice medicine again; he faces 175 years in prison after confessing to 13 counts of health-care fraud, one count of conspiracy to pay or receive kickbacks and two counts of money laundering. But the notion that he could once again hold a medical license he used to maim and kill is outrageous.
There are also instances of violence when the people begin to question the alleged scientific facts from corporation likes Monsanto. Pushback in the form of violence from chemical companies like Monsanto doesn't occur just domestically in the United States, but even in rural regions of Argentina. A lecture for a small community, La Leonesa, was attacked before the Professor could even meet with the town to discuss the destructive effects of glyphosate.
Other examples of science as terrorism includes the recently passed California law, SB 277, requiring all parents of public- and private-school children to expose them to vaccines that have harmed, maimed and killed scores of children. Like cultist Nazis, supporters of the bill, including Gov. Jerry Brown, who readily signed it, had no regard for parent choice and merely parroted the oft-repeated lie that "all vaccines are safe."
Terrorism is a very powerful word, but increasingly progressive social engineers and the cultural elite are resorting to some level of intellectual and physical political violence to enforce their will and demand conformity from the masses, and of course, that's the textbook definition of terrorism – violence in the pursuit of a political goal or aim.
As with the GMO debate, anthropogenic global warming/climate change, and, of course, vaccines, "because science" is the rallying cry of the howling banshees on the progressive Left who want to supplant genuine science – the testing and questioning of things in order to discover a more accurate truth – with feel-good activism.
It doesn't bode well for science, in general, and it certainly won't help us recover the soul of our nation.
Sources:
http://www.naturalnews.com
http://www.breitbart.com
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007060
http://www.centerformedicalprogress.org/cmp/investigative-footage/
http://www.history.com/topics/oklahoma-city-bombing
http://www.washingtonpost.com
http://dictionary.reference.com
http://www2.amnesty.se
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I think the preservation of remains is an affront to nature. If you kill a living thing you should use the remains in my opinion. To me that is respect. Preserving the corpse and even embalming it and sticking it in a casket and then burying it in a concrete vault is disrespect as it disallows nature from properly reclaiming its own.
Whatever person that would have been is gone. Let them go. You don't help the dead body by keeping it intact. If you're not going to make use of it, at least either leave it somewhere for nature to reclaim, or bury it naked and not operated on or preserved with chemicals.
Whatever person that would have been is gone. Let them go. You don't help the dead body by keeping it intact. If you're not going to make use of it, at least either leave it somewhere for nature to reclaim, or bury it naked and not operated on or preserved with chemicals.
It's incentivising abortion and that's just a stop and think "would I like to be treated that way?" moment. While [MENTION=1871]muir[/MENTION] is beating his horse, I'll beat mine and say PEOPLE ALREADY KNOW ABOUT THIS STUFF, STOP DOING CRAZY THINGS IN THE NAME OF SCIENCE. They just might take the lack of craziness as an opportunity to share things that impetuous people would otherwise abuse.
Going back to my cubby-hole.
Going back to my cubby-hole.
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I agree basically, but that wasn't the issue here.
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I posted that as a mimicry of the practice of spilling out thoughts that aren't entirely useful.
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Planned Parenthood is part of something much larger and much more sinister than merely selling hacked up dead babies for profits although the callous ways in whih those planned parenthood doctors-for-sale (salespeople not healers) who have been caught on camera are speaking about their ghoulish trade shows the heartlessness that lies behind a certain mindset
That mindset sees people as resources and commodities to be traded whether alive and dead
That mindset has an ideology too
That mindset has an agenda to basically control all of humanity as a slave class under an elite of heartless controllers
This mindset was outlined by Aldous Huxley in his book 'a brave new world' where humans are born in laboratories and people are drugged with 'soma' and society is controlled from above by the 'world controllers'
But that book wasn't just fiction. Huxley was well connected in british society to wealthy FABIAN socialists who want to create a world government
His brother Julian Huxley was one of those fabian conspirators and was heavily involved in the United Nations. Julian was a eugenicist and unfortunately the mindset of people who want to control everyone else is usually one that is aligned with eugenics because their desire for control reaches into every aspect of peoples lives
They will seek to control everything including who can live and who can die because they are CONTROL FREAKS
The control freaks also will always push to do whatever they can unless they meet resitsance from everyone else; this means that they will get away with as much as they possibly can unless people stand upto them
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The issue, as I recall, is the question as to whether or not PP operated outside of the law when it harvested and sold aborted fetal material. I believe the point was, did PP break the law by misinforming its clients on the actuality of the procedures it was using. The evidence that it did was allegedly provided in the videos secretly recorded by an anti abortion group. Videos of this nature can be unreliable in a courtroom, however there may be other evidence that PP did in fact use abortion techniques that have either been outlawed, or was not what the clients agreed to.
It is important to bear in mind that those who have provided the evidence believe PP should be shut down and that the idea of harvesting aborted human tissue and using it for anything, while legal, is being used as a club to beat PP to death.
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go figure...
Independent Analysis Finds Evidence of "Manipulation" In Undercover Planned Parenthood Videos
Independent Analysis Finds Evidence of "Manipulation" In Undercover Planned Parenthood Videos
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/08/27/independent-analysis-finds-evidence-of-manipula/205216