As I said, I would be interested in hearing a different view, hence the other article posted which goes into more detail. Put simply, are you stating the electronic, non death method used to extract the venom isn't true? I have no interest in your view that the the process does not work as you seem to not have tried it based on your own moral leanings. Do you have any knowledge the bees are being hurt in your experience as an alleged bee keeper? Not trying to be offensive as I have no need for that.
I am trying one last time to garner any pertinent information, then I will leave you to it. Such is life.
You are honestly not making any sense. I have given you tons of information in my last posts. Why would I choose to harm bees or ANY living creature? Do you seriously think electrically shocking bees is okay? You're killing off a creature that helps pollinate your environment and keeps food on the table. I don't understand how anybody could believe it's okay. You're buying "beauty products" that are killing off an endangered species. That's like buying a coat that was made from the fur of snow leopards. It is morally wrong.
You are being offensive by calling me an alleged beekeeper and trying to discredit me.
Back on topic. Plucking or waxing? Never waxed, ever. Seems like self harm x
Wow. Who knew a beauty thread could deteriorate so quickly?
Okay, so I will be posting something I hope will be both neutral and helpful. I recently purchased a BellaFace and love it. It reduces pore size and regenerates collagen. I think I paid around 130 USD or so.
What is a bellaface? Can you tell us more about it?
I've heard of Argan oil, my cousin uses products with it. I really need a good face and hand moisturizer. My hands get dry very easily and I tend to use a lot of cheap store bought lotions, which don't really work long term. They usually feel greasy, slimy, etc. and don't last. Especially since the weather is a little cooler, I'm interested in recommendations for inexpensive but effective hand lotions and facial moisturizers.
I started using Avalon Organics CoQ10 Repair Facial Cleansing Milk for facewash and it is very gentle and leaves my skin soft and not dry afterwards. perfect for winter months.
Christina Moss Naturals Moisturizer- i use for as a moisturizer. it's organic and feels very gentle and absorbs well into the skin. It does have a smell of licorice but i don't mind it. the smell goes away after a while.
I found both from amazon and they were reasonably priced.
If you don't mind spending a little more L'Occitane Provence hand creams are very good. I buy them as gifts and many people love it. smells good and really does moisturize the skin.
For cheaper alternative I got O'Keefe's Working Hands cream for my boyfriend who gets bad calluses during winter months. Its a little heavy duty and is in most pharmacies but it does work very well.
I'm convinced that people who know how to apply liquid eyeliner flawlessly are wizards.
Also, false lashes.
Any time I attempt either one, the end result for me is always: