Death of Democratic Party

A Congressional majority doesn't really help that much when your party is busy arm wrestling itself.
...As demonstrated by the last few months.
 
Damn both parties , its a terrible paradigm that needs to be shattered.Democrats and Republicans have been doing this for decades, passing the ball back n forth while pointing fingers at each other for mistakes and messes that are made.

I want to see Independents grow strong that are not controlled by lobbyists money and not easily swayed by party ties. I would love to see both Democrats and Republicans freakin crash, every term its the same old rhetoric from the party line, which ever party may be at the time.

I don't think they can push the 2-party b.s. game for much longer, because it gets worse with every term that passes. I have beliefs and ideas that are deemed radical because I choose to think outside the box that the established system feeds us.

There's too much private sector influence and corporate money tied up into the Democrats and Republicans, its not about WE THE PEOPLE anymore. I will always pull for a breaking away from the Union and the 10th Amendment movement.

Things could get back to the people again, like manufacturing jobs could return that made America great to begin with. No more meddling in other countries affairs, with wars, and exporting our jobs, and relying on slave made imported junk.

Technological advancements in alternate energy could move forward instead of being suppressed by the Big Oil industry and U.S. Dept. of Energy making us rely on out dated crude oil to run our vehicles and coal burning plants for electricity.

There is no good hope or vision within the Democratic or Republican party in Washington D.C.

The way both parties have the U.S. Govt. locked down , I can't really see Independents coming in and changing things, therefore I fall back to the hope that when things finally get bad enough, and the people see that there is no Democratic or Republican Savior , then the States will get behind the 10th Amendment and break away from the U.S. Govt.

I would like to see something that major done peaceably but knowing how the jackbooted Feds are, more than likely they would ask for the help of E.U. countries to send troops over to stop it.
 
I simply feel sorry for Obama... So from human to human, I wrote him a letter some time ago saying how I noticed how he was looking tired lately and that he shouldn't lose hope and be discouraged by all opposition!

I hope you are right TLM, that everyone should just come down. It seems worrisome :/
 
Satya said:
I'm starting to think the political parties are held together by chewing gum.
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the real question hear is whether or not the Gum is Juicy Fruit, Big Red, or Spearment.
 
Apostelytizer said:
There is no way that significant health care reform is going to take place now. That means huge numbers of Americans are going to continue to go without it. There is little chance that real action is going to be taken to eliminate green house gas emission. There is not going to be any real oversight of the cowboys running the financial markets. Especially now that the Supreme Court as eliminated any controls on corporate spending during elections. All of these things are core Democratic Party values. Since they were unable to pass a health care reform bill, something they have campaigned on for forty years, they will see their base wither away.
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There wasn't going to be any significant health care reform anyway, eliminating green house gases is just as much as a civilian issue as a governmental one, and the financial markets just might run like they have always. Such an alarmist view, I must say, if the democratic party withers away lets hope the republican does so as well. Our system is really set up for a 2 part system though, an "us" versus "them"
 
Pristinegirl said:
I simply feel sorry for Obama... So from human to human, I wrote him a letter some time ago saying how I noticed how he was looking tired lately and that he shouldn't lose hope and be discouraged by all opposition!

I hope you are right TLM, that everyone should just come down. It seems worrisome :/
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I understand your empathy but I fear it may fall on deaf ears. You see no matter how much a President of the US wants to change something, going against the status quo will envoke the wrath of the real holders of power in the states, the bankers and their clans. Quite simply, without the support or at least silence of the bankers, no major changes can be made or maintained, even if the intentions of the president are good.

How the bankers have put the entire countrys interests into their pockets since the 1900's is abominable, and almost all goes on behind closed doors where the average American is largely unaware that if the bankers want to, they can collapsea any sector of the economy, boost another and initiate movements to wreck other countrys economies if they run opposite to their future-orientated ubercapitalist will. Look at Chile in the 1970's with it's copper, and how the States flooded the global market with their most valuable export so as to effectively bankrupt the only freely elected communist government in South America. A freedomloving state like America wouldn't do such a thing, except the state doesn't have real power in America..
 
I really doubt Obama isn't in the pockets of the global bankers. He get's no sympathy from me with his stimilus packages that has resulted in bonus parties and is at risk of devalueing the dollar and the ecnomy.

I mean the first stimilus package bill was 2000 pages long if I remember correctly and only presented 2 days before it was going to be voted over. How I love the smell of corruption in the morning.

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Look at this nervous lying sob
 
I think its funny, all these uninformed morons voted for Obama, he came out and started doing his thing, everyone went woah wait this isn't what we wanted, and the 1st republican since 1972 wins the fucking Kennedy senate seat, and the retarded Dems are sitting there going "this is not a referendum on Obama or Obama care!" which the majority of the country doesn't need and doesn't want. I cannot wait for November!

The dems are so far out, so far away from what moderate americans want, this is the 90s all over again. Slick willy tried the same socialist bullshit and then one of the largest congressional power shifts ever occurred. LOL
 
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I think you're missing the point, Billy, in that it really doesn't matter what party is in power. The surface changes each party may advocate does not alter the agenda of the bankers, who simply tweak their tactics depending on who's ruling.

But I might just be a consipracy freak, and I've never stepped foot in the States.
 
so it is good because?

Billy said:
I think its funny, all these uninformed morons voted for Obama, he came out and started doing his thing, everyone went whoa wait this isn't what we wanted, and the 1st republican since 1972 wins the fucking Kennedy senate seat, and the retarded Dems are sitting there going "this is not a referendum on Obama or Obama care!" which the majority of the country doesn't need and doesn't want. I cannot wait for November!

The dems are so far out, so far away from what moderate Americans want, this is the 90s all over again. Slick willy tried the same socialist bullshit and then one of the largest congressional power shifts ever occurred. LOL
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So it is good because the health care reformation is unneeded. and it is good because the other party is better at running the country?
 
Krumplenump said:
I think you're missing the point, Billy, in that it really doesn't matter what party is in power. The surface changes each party may advocate does not alter the agenda of the bankers, who simply tweak their tactics depending on who's ruling.

But I might just be a consipracy freak, and I've never stepped foot in the States.
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Uhhh ass long as the party thats in power isn't into socializing everything and taxing us for it ill be happy.
 
Apostelytizer said:
So it is good because the health care reformation is unneeded. and it is good because the other party is better at running the country?
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No its good because Obama and his far left policies are failing, hard. And people will kick these sociopathic idealists out in November. We don't need healthcare reform, what we need is Tort reform so we can bring the costs of Insurance down, make it so that anyone who sues frivolously is required to pay the legal fees of the defendant when they judge rules against them.
 
Billy said:
Uhhh ass long as the party thats in power isn't into socializing everything and taxing us for it ill be happy.
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Hmm. From an outsiders perspective, America could do with a good dose of socialism. A good dose of whatever goes against the grain is a good thing.
 
seems so simple

Billy said:
No its good because Obama and his far left policies are failing, hard. And people will kick these sociopathic idealists out in November. We don't need healthcare reform, what we need is Tort reform so we can bring the costs of Insurance down, make it so that anyone who sues frivolously is required to pay the legal fees of the defendant when they judge rules against them.
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so healthcare cost overruns are just caused by frivolous lawsuits? What about the people who are using emergency rooms for their healthcare, is that just not really happening?
 
Haha, what Americans call "Far left", everyone else calls "Ultra-Conservative"
 
Krumplenump said:
I understand your empathy but I fear it may fall on deaf ears. You see no matter how much a President of the US wants to change something, going against the status quo will envoke the wrath of the real holders of power in the states, the bankers and their clans. Quite simply, without the support or at least silence of the bankers, no major changes can be made or maintained, even if the intentions of the president are good.

How the bankers have put the entire countrys interests into their pockets since the 1900's is abominable, and almost all goes on behind closed doors where the average American is largely unaware that if the bankers want to, they can collapsea any sector of the economy, boost another and initiate movements to wreck other countrys economies if they run opposite to their future-orientated ubercapitalist will. Look at Chile in the 1970's with it's copper, and how the States flooded the global market with their most valuable export so as to effectively bankrupt the only freely elected communist government in South America. A freedomloving state like America wouldn't do such a thing, except the state doesn't have real power in America..
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Maybe we should just flush having governments down the drain.. I don't see this 'democracy' everyone is speaking of!

WHY would someone be assigned to a post where he cannot do anything but be a punchball, a target for critisism and further complaints.
It is just pure evil in my opinion!!
 
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Pristinegirl said:
Maybe we should just flush having governments down the drain.. I don't see this 'democracy' everyone is speaking of!

WHY would someone be assigned to a post where he cannot do anything but be a punchball, a target for critisism and further complaints.
It is just pure evil in my opinion!!
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Well, that's a good question. I think the answer might be that he can still do stuff, just nothing that runs contrary to the plans of the bankers without the risk of ruining his whole career. And that leads me on to why he would become content with his position: his career. Careers are addictive.
 
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