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I can. The universe doesn't have any corners.ust one example, let me tell you: "At all corners of universe, there is a beautiful colorful unicorn." Can you disprove my random statement?
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I can. The universe doesn't have any corners.ust one example, let me tell you: "At all corners of universe, there is a beautiful colorful unicorn." Can you disprove my random statement?
How do you know since we haven't reached them yet with our technology ?I can. The universe doesn't have any corners.
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I can. The universe doesn't have any corners.
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How do you know since we haven't reached them yet with our technology ?
2- Why religon is not accessible to everyone anywhere?
Allah says in the quran (We will show them Our signs in the horizons and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that it is the truth. But is it not sufficient concerning your Lord that He is, over all things, a Witness?)
We will focus on the first part only of this verse. It says that the truth will be accessible to every single human who lives in this world, either through themselves or in the horizons.
Every child is born pure of thoughts, by time, the child becomes influenced by his parents and his environment, and at end it produces a person who is either healthy or has wrong thoughts and beliefs.
through all of that, the person will be shown the truth of this world, its science and miracles, the person will look in the sky and ask himself how did the moon and the sun got up there ? What makes them capable of rotating in this way? Who or what made this possible?
The person will look at himself and the see the way his body functions, he will wonder how his body regains skin after it has been wounded? How amazing it is for a human to come out of another human?
The truth will be visible to them and infront of their eyes.
God has sent many messengers to transfer his message, by name only 25 are mentioned in the quran, starting from Adam, jesus until mohamed, new info?
So islam is not 1400 old, it was there since the start of humanity.
And for every generation there was a messenger and sometimes a book, however those books were only meant to be used in their particular time and particular people, and as for mohamed (the last messanger) the quran was there, and the religon was complete in quran.
Why iam mentioning this ?
Islam could have reached faraway places since it claims it is the right path, but unfortunately the biggest enemy for islam is not christianity nor jews, currently it is the massmedia which makes muslims be seem as torrests although muslims make 20% of the world, yeah we could have bombed the whole world with this number if it was our aim, fortunately our only purpose is spreading peace.
As for anyone in this age we are living who has never heard of islam and quran, will it be fair to them in that case?
if he was truly ignorant, and the call of Islam never reached him at all, or it reached him in a distorted manner in such a way that proof is not established against one like him, then with regard to his fate on the Day of Resurrection, there was a lengthy debate among the scholars.
The most correct scholarly view concerning him is that he will be tested on the Day of Resurrection. Then whoever obeys Allah will enter Paradise, and whoever disobeys Him will enter Hell.
3- why there has to be a book?
Let's assume that there is new machine which you found in the road, this machine no one really knows how it works or how it is used for, who will you go to to know its mechanism?
Probably you will say the inventor, the scientist behind it or the creator, whatever you call him it indicates that he only knows how this will function.
In the same way when we were born and given the opportunity to live, it isn't just to achieve dreams or enjoy it, i mean there are those who are born blind and can't move as well, is it fair for them as well ?
So when god created us he as well give us the quran, in which he clearly showed the Purpose of life (its mechanism),
The right and wrong, the good deeds in which we all shall have, not through mere claim, but also supported by reason and evidence.
First of all i do really appricate the fact that you are questioning things and wondering what's right to follow and in what conditions unlike many others, andThere are lots of people that doesnt know what obbeying Allah is, because as I said it it isnt actually universal at all, except that perhaps thats means disobeying a religionary institution behind it.
If the truth is obviously on the horizon, then why the messenger, the Quran, the Bible or the books?
Each book were supposed to match it times, yet many of these books say the other book is, like, "illegal", or even a lie, and they are in contradiction with each other, except when they belong from the same religion on the beggining.
If the truth is visible and in front of our eyes, then there is no need for spreading the whole religion in the first place.
Which still doesnt answer why this Manual was given to a specific person or a very few specific persons in a specific enviroment or very few specific enviroments.
The pattern is always the same: Some "illuminated" guy, and only him, or only a few "illuminated" guys, and only them, receveis a very important message from God, and this message needs to spread to the whole world and the whole world should listen. This is not only your religion, there is plenty of them with a story with this pattern. The high questionable part here is, if this is a very important message, then why God, in all his virtues and excellences, didnt found a way to send it to everybody in any language?
You dont need to answer these questions anyway.
The real thing as I perceive is that some human beings, or better, adults, are averse to doubt and want to rely on the safety that they know everything and have every answer. You answer to my doubts in a way, the Christian in another way, the xxx in another way, and each one are inconsistent with each other and, sometimes, one calls another a liar.
EDIT: Sorry if I was rude.
Then the Christian will come up with the bible and say this is the truth,
The Muslim will come up with the quran and say this is the truth,
The Hindu will come up with the Vedas and say this is the truth,
At this point it's important to do what we call a Comparative religon study to find out atleast what's common between all these religons, when the study is done we came to find out that almost all books point out to the worship of One god
On the other side of your question, all the religons could have been accepted as long as they are leading to the truth, but for rational people like you and me we need a prove to believe the truth, so its definitely your choice to search and look for the most rational religon which answers your logical doubts. Once your doubts are answered, you can no longer think let away belief that there is a better religon than Islam.
I am certainly not impressed by any religion that relies on logic to assert its worth. Nor am I enticed by a reward after I die. Its got to have transcendental meaning right here, right now.
I did provide a proof for the Andreah in the previous page, it was a clip, but i have found a better one yesterday so here it is
There are many Hindu deities.
You haven't really provided an proof that Islam is a more rational religion than Christianity. What makes you think that?
Islam doesn't relay on logic to prove itself, it doesn't rely on how many people follow it, it doesn't rely on what book or what prophet has called for it, it on relies on the truth, and for something to be true and known it shall have atleast have a logical base( Reason,claim and proof) to convince someone it's the right religon, afterwards, the person can either accept or choose to deny the truth, nothing's compulsory, if you choosed to follow it then you will feel the tranquility possessing your soul, if not then you better have something better for yourseI am certainly not impressed by any religion that relies on logic to assert its worth. Nor am I enticed by a reward after I die. Its got to have transcendental meaning right here, right now.
Islam surely doesn't relay on logic only to prove its worth, it doesn't relay on how many people believe in it, it doesn't relay on what prophet called for it as well, islam only relies on the truth, and for something to be known there has to be a (claim, reason and evidence), if person chooses to spot some light on it then it won't take much time to accept it while being fully convinced, and the moment you become convinced you can either then accept it or deny it, if you choose to accept it then you will feel trenquality possessing your soul, if not then you better have something else more logical and convincing or else it's your life.I am certainly not impressed by any religion that relies on logic to assert its worth. Nor am I enticed by a reward after I die. Its got to have transcendental meaning right here, right now.
Sorry i wrote this twiceIslam doesn't relay on logic to prove itself, it doesn't rely on how many people follow it, it doesn't rely on what book or what prophet has called for it, it on relies on the truth, and for something to be true and known it shall have atleast have a logical base( Reason,claim and proof) to convince someone it's the right religon, afterwards, the person can either accept or choose to deny the truth, nothing's compulsory, if you choosed to follow it then you will feel the tranquility possessing your soul, if not then you better have something better for yourse
Islam surely doesn't relay on logic only to prove its worth, it doesn't relay on how many people believe in it, it doesn't relay on what prophet called for it as well, islam only relies on the truth, and for something to be known there has to be a (claim, reason and evidence), if person chooses to spot some light on it then it won't take much time to accept it while being fully convinced, and the moment you become convinced you can either then accept it or deny it, if you choose to accept it then you will feel trenquality possessing your soul, if not then you better have something else more logical and convincing or else it's your life.
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Im sorry, but what you post doenst really solve most issues I point and are also inconsistent.
There is still a quote in the Bible directly instructing Christians to avoid Islam because it is directly stated that the name of the God is not Allah.
The "prophet solution" is still a reasonable poor solution when compared to my "everybody can dream the same dream" or the idea of putting the truth inside our intuition instead of a book. We all are not supposed to be extra gifted to the point of figuring and finding out all of the possible books and arriving at a straight answer which one is the truth we are supposed to follow, because most of them do statement like "I [Bible, Quran, etc..] am the ultimate truth".
The pattern of a few illuminated guys that must be listened and followed because only them have the truth and others not, is still there. The pattern of threating my next life if I dont listen to you is still there as well (thats the classic "listen me or go to hell"). And by you, Im not really meaning you, Im meaning the religion itself.
Stating that it is universal and then mentioning that the follower has a duty to spread the religion is inconsistent. Stating that the truth is visible in the horizon, as if it is obvious, and then needing a really big book to explain it is inconsistent as well.
Im starting to feel like Im INTJ in this occasion...lol. And I dont really think that muslims are all terrorists.
I did provide a proof for the Andreah in the previous page, it was a clip, but i have found a better one yesterday so here it is
To be honest i may not have the accurate respond to those two questions more than what it is, and as i meant, it requires to keep the eyes, mind and most importantly the heart open to the truth.Im sorry, but what you post doenst really solve most issues I point and are also inconsistent.
There is still a quote in the Bible directly instructing Christians to avoid Islam because it is directly stated that the name of the God is not Allah.
The "prophet solution" is still a reasonable poor solution when compared to my "everybody can dream the same dream" or the idea of putting the truth inside our intuition instead of a book. We all are not supposed to be extra gifted to the point of figuring and finding out all of the possible books and arriving at a straight answer which one is the truth we are supposed to follow, because most of them do statement like "I [Bible, Quran, etc..] am the ultimate truth".
The pattern of a few illuminated guys that must be listened and followed because only them have the truth and others not, is still there. The pattern of threating my next life if I dont listen to you is still there as well (thats the classic "listen me or go to hell"). And by you, Im not really meaning you, Im meaning the religion itself.
Stating that it is universal and then mentioning that the follower has a duty to spread the religion is inconsistent. Stating that the truth is visible in the horizon, as if it is obvious, and then needing a really big book to explain it is inconsistent as well.
Im starting to feel like Im INTJ in this occasion...lol. And I dont really think that muslims are all terrorists.
You're welcome, take your time please.Thanks for sharing, I'll check the video later and share my comments, if any.
Indeed"Can there be doubt about Allah, Creator of the heavens and earth? He invites you that He may forgive you of your sins, and He delays your death for a specified term.
Surah 14:10 Nobel Quran
Indeed god is great and indeed we all are meant for same destination wheather we accept it or not, indeed god surpasses logic and science, indeed god deserve to be prayed for, indeed whoever defies God's rules deserves the hell, indeed filling books with human words then attributing it to god is a major sinning, indeed god is merciful, indeed whoever follows the commandments of the true god deserve heaven.religion, faith spirituality are all different things. and none of it will be found in logic. it is not logical to believe in something. God, Allah, Yaweh, Buddha, the Goddess, Earth Mother. . all the same thing, seen through the eyes of different cultures and peoples. all the holy books in the world. . are just that, books. Books written by people, decided by committee. God is not an author. what we seek is found on the mountain top. there are many paths to that peak, and all are equally valid and equally true. None is better or more true than any other, that is man's arrogance.
so walk your own path, or walk several, the destination is the same. . or dont walk at all, the mountain is still there whether you believe it or not