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INFJ Leaders of History
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LucyJr
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but withou the risk of exagerating, i think every INFJ is self-ccentered. Probably INFj is the most egocentric of all 16 types, fundamentally egocentric.
How about this [MENTION=1871]muir[/MENTION]? And please, don't quote me some MBTI page, because i know that MBTI says INFJs are "empathetic" and "compassionate" and "complex" with "depth of feelings" and all these fairytales, or big and fat lies, if we are to be more correct.
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bloody oath mate
muir
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That's not true
5000 people just protested outside the BBC headquarters
John Pilger is one of the most respected journalists on the planet and here is what he had to say about the BBC:
http://johnpilger.com/articles/as-g...erstanding-the-bbc-s-historical-role-is-vital
[h=3]As Gaza is savaged again, understanding the BBC's historical role is vital[/h] [h=4]22 November 2012[/h] In Peter Watkins' remarkable BBC film, The War Game, which foresaw the aftermath of an attack on London with a one-megaton nuclear bomb, the narrator says: "On almost the entire subject of thermo-clear weapons, there is now practically total silence in the press, official publications and on TV. Is there hope to be found in this silence?"
The truth of this statement was equal to its irony. On 24 November, 1965, the BBC banned The War Game as "too horrifying for the medium of broadcasting". This was false. The real reason was spelt out by the chairman of the BBC Board of Governors, Lord Normanbrook, in a secret letter to the Secretary to the Cabinet, Sir Burke Trend.
"[The War Game] is not designed as propaganda," he wrote, "it is intended as a purely factual statement and is based on careful research into official material... But the showing of the film on television might have a significant effect on public attitudes towards the policy of the nuclear deterrent." Following a screening attended by senior Whitehall officials, the film was banned because it told an intolerable truth. Sixteen years later, the then BBC director-general, Sir Ian Trethowan, renewed the ban, saying that he feared for the film's effect on people of "limited mental intelligence". Watkins' brilliant work was eventually shown in 1985 to a late-night minority audience. It was introduced by Ludovic Kennedy who repeated the official lie.
What happened to The War Game is the function of the state broadcaster as a cornerstone of Britain's ruling elite. With its outstanding production values, often fine popular drama, natural history and sporting coverage, the BBC enjoys wide appeal and, according to its managers and beneficiaries, "trust". This "trust" may well apply to Springwatch and Sir David Attenborough, but there is no demonstrable basis for it in much of the news and so-called current affairs that claim to make sense of the world, especially the machinations of rampant power. There are honourable individual exceptions, but watch how these are tamed the longer they remain in the institution: a "defenestration", as one senior BBC journalist describes it.
This is notably true in the Middle East where the Israeli state has successfully intimidated the BBC into presenting the theft of Palestinian land and the caging, torturing and killing of its people as an intractable "conflict" between equals. Standing in the rubble from an Israeli attack, one BBC journalist went further and referred to "Gaza's strong culture of martyrdom". So great is this distortion that young viewers of BBC News have told Glasgow University researchers they are left with the impression that Palestinians are the illegal colonisers of their own country. The current BBC "coverage" of Gaza's genocidal misery reinforces this.
The BBC's "Reithian values" of impartiality and independence are almost scriptural in their mythology. Soon after the corporation was founded in the 1920s by Lord John Reith, Britain was consumed by the General Strike. "Reith emerged as a kind of hero," wrote the historian Patrick Renshaw, "who had acted responsibly and yet preserved the precious independence of the BBC. But though this myth persisted it has little basis in reality... the price of that independence was in fact doing what the government wanted done. [Prime Minister Stanley] Baldwin... saw that if they preserved the BBC's independence, it would be much easier for them to get their way on important questions and use it to broadcast Government propaganda."
Unknown to the public, Reith had been the prime minister's speech writer. Ambitious to become Viceroy of India, he ensured the BBC became an evangelist of imperial power, with "impartiality" duly suspended whenever that power was threatened. This "principle" has applied to the BBC's coverage of every colonial war of the modern era: from the covered-up genocide in Indonesia and suppression of eyewitness film of the American bombing of North Vietnam to support for the illegal Blair/Bush invasion of Iraq in 2003 and the now familiar echo of Israeli propaganda whenever that lawless state abuses its captive, Palestine. This reached a nadir in 2009 when, terrified of Israeli reaction, the BBC refused to broadcast a combined charities appeal for the people of Gaza, half of whom are children, most of them malnourished and traumatised by Israeli attacks. The United Nations Rapporteur, Richard Falk, has likened Israel's blockade of Gaza to the Warsaw Ghetto under siege by the Nazis. Yet, to the BBC, Gaza - like the 2010 humanitarian relief flotilla murderously attacked by Israeli commandos - largely presents a public relations problem for Israel and its US sponsor.
Mark Regev, Israel's chief propagandist, seemingly has a place reserved for him near the top of BBC news bulletins. In 2010, when I pointed this out to Fran Unsworth, now elevated to director of news, she strongly objected to the description of Regev as a propagandist, adding, "It's not our job to go out and appoint the Palestinean spokesperson".
With similar logic, Unsworth's predecessor, Helen Boaden, described the BBC's reporting of the criminal carnage in Iraq as based on the "fact that Bush has tried to export democracy and human rights to Iraq". To prove her point, Boaden supplied six A4 pages of verifiable lies from Bush and Tony Blair. That ventriloquism is not journalism seemed not to occur to either woman.
What has changed at the BBC is the arrival of the cult of the corporate manager. George Entwistle, the briefly-appointed director general who said he knew nothing about Newsnight's false accusations of child abuse against a Tory grandee, is to receive £450,000 of public money for agreeing to resign before he was sacked: the corporate way. This and the preceding Jimmy Savile scandal might have been scripted for the Daily Mail and the Murdoch press whose self-serving hatred of the BBC has long provided the corporation with its "embattled" façade as the guardian of "public service broadcasting". Understanding the BBC as a pre-eminent state propagandist and censor by omission - more often than not in tune with its right-wing enemies - is on no public agenda and it ought to be.
The BBC fired their head andrew gilligan when he reported that the government 'sexed up' the iraq war dossier
The BBC has NO JOURNALISTIC integrity....it is a state run organisation created to spread state propaganda
The washington post is part of the CFR group which is affiliated with Britains Chatham House which is linked to the BBC
You know all this right?
I mean to be as sure as you seem to be you must know all this stuff otherwise you'd just be pushing an ignorant opinion out online and i'm sure you wouldn't want to do that
Well we will have to agree to disagree on that (i might start taking screen shots of you guys as soon as you surface with your INFJ bashing)
It's not that i'm taking offence is just that i'm showing you how you are pushing BBC/Washington post propaganda on the internet
Once again you are horribly wrong about that
That is what corporate 'psychometric testing' is all about...its about looking at your personality type
The corporate network i'm talking about (check out the CFR membership list...its right there online...you don't need to take my word for it; its even on the wikipedia page for the council on foreign relations) know about and use personality typing...they are very aware of personality types at levels most people can only wonder at
I've been posting evidence all over the forum! I'll be posting more
I'm not quoting orwell from the wrong context....how is this the wrong context?
I'm not sure you quite understand how our society really works
if you are an idealistic leader the corporate network will kill you
Here is one of their ex agents explaining how they operate:
[video=youtube;aqIHKWd9rSc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqIHKWd9rSc[/video]
muir
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There is always the possibility that you are not an INFJ....
just sayin
You can laugh all you like....but if you put down the socionics textbooks and read MBTI descriptions then they are all pretty clear that INFJ's focus their systems around the wellbeing of people
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muir
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The socionics INFj is often said to be the MBTI INFP not the INFJ
But anyway....
the point is not how wrapped up a person is in their own thoughts the point is how likely are they to have the single minded drive to walk over the top of other people into positions of power and influence without being assassinated by the corporate network so that you can then exert your meglomania onto the world
And i'm saying INFJ's don't do that
Go into any boardroom of any big corporation and type the people there.....they will not be INFJ's because the INFJ would have been burnt out inside long before climbing to that level
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Why? Those are pretty big words you know. There's a dose of egocentrism, but compared to other people i can sacrifice a great deal, in many ways i'm a helper, specially of my close ones. Right now i'm starting to think that i need to be less self sacrificing sometimes. When younger i was usually fooled by people, and i was/am still way too forgiving of people, i can understand everything, even if i get pissed off at them, part of me says, that they don't deserve to be treated badly. Which doesn't mean that INFJs are "The Zen Type", certainly i'm not, i can be punitive, i have a big ego regardless of the constant self hatred, and i'm good at setting boundaries, but we're prone to self criticize more than other types perfectionism is the keyword here, standards are too high.
Whatever in the enneagram i'm a 4, and when unhealthy i go to neurotic 2 a lot, which is usually labeled as the helper too. Go figure...
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muir
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One day Lucy jnr and myself were decrying psychiatry and how psychometric testing is used to discriminate in employment (we were repping each other and giving each other thumbs up) and then suddenly he changed...he went in completely the other direction and started using psychiatry to attack INFJ's....it's a pretty bizarre U-turn and i'm wondering whats made him flip like that
He now really seems to have it in for INFJ's and seems to have turned attacking them into a bit of a crusade
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If you want to prove me wrong feel free to debate me otherwise you'll just sound like you've got a big mouth but nothing to back it up with
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Honestly i wouldn't mind if he tries to expose the INFJs weak spots, it's ok in the long term, but i aggree with you and his tone. His criticisms sometimes lack accuracy. Also i usually find myself disagreeing with his views on this type that seem to be more emotionally based.
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I think he is using a different schema so we are actually talking about different types
He's not talking about MBTI and seems to think its all bunkum
But the socionics system was created under the USSR system and its creator was rewarded by the system for their work; the system was looking for new tools to control the population (just look at the KGB and the stasi for an idea of how much information they held on thei citizens...although that's nothing compared to what the NSA has on US citizens...but anyway...) and socionics provided them with a new tool
Imagine a centralised economy controlled by an el-ite who want to manage the population as if they are cogs in a machine
Any person who threatens that machine for example through free thinking is then demonised because their expressiveness is a deep threat to the order of the el-ite
See the film 'the lives of others' for an idea of what i mean where the artistic types are feared and spied on by the central controllers and their beaurocrats
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Socionics haves a "Big Brother'ish" feel to it, i will do some reseatch. Also I already told him that INFp doesn't really mean INFJ in MBTI, and that the take on types and functions is different.
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muir
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Hey i hope you didn't take the tone of my last post to you as being directed at you
I'm a little shaken up by the recent plane shoot down in ukraine...i keep an eye on things and have heard some pretty dark stuff over the years but that news concerned me more than most in recent years
There's been a lot of talk about world war 3 but now events are actually moving in such a way as to make that become a reality and that's scary.....the only thing that can stop our countries going down that route is an aware and knowledgeable citizenry and some of the comments that are made online shows that we are still vulnerable to being led down that route because many people are just not getting it
I've watched events catch up with my predictions on this forum and found that disturbing enough but this particular route is different because of the implications
And while some people are wasting their energies exploring the possibility that some of the past 'evil' leaders of history might be INFJ's the real bad guys are moving us all closer to destruction
Some people are so far off the mark with their perceptions that they are actually heading in the opposite direction from the truth!
If people can be handed information on a plate and yet still go off on a wild goose chase asking if INFJ's are actually evil...it does make you wonder what the likelyhood is that an awakened public can avert disaster.....instead of spreading information around online i might be better spending my time building a nuclear shelter or moving somewhere out of range because britain is a sitting duck
Why do peope think this latest malaysian aricraft take down happened? Most will be listening to the corporate media and will be drinking the kool aid and will think that it was an accident carried out by the seperatists or russians affiliated with them.....but the bigger picture is that certain forces are building a case for all out war and voices in washington have already said that they believe they can win a nuclear war
http://projectcamelot.org/underground_bases.html
Underground Bases
and Tunnels
The first section of this page was written by Phil Schneider:
Most tunneling activity is under military installations and all information is highly restricted. Former employees of said facilities have surfaced over the years to talk of massive underground installations in places like Area 51, the Northrop facility in Antelope Valley, California (rumored to have 42 levels), and the Lockheed installation near Edwards, California.
The 'Black Budget' currently consumes $1.25 trillion per year. At least this amount is used in black programs, like those concerned with deep underground military bases. Presently, there are 129 deep underground military bases in the United States. They have been building these 129 bases day and night, unceasingly, since the early 1940's. Some of them were built even earlier than that. These bases are basically large cities underground connected by high-speed magneto-leviton trains that have speeds up to Mach 2. Several books have been written about this activity.
The average depth of these bases is over a mile, and they again are basically whole cities underground. They all are between 2.66 and 4.25 cubic miles in size. They have laser-drilling machines that can drill a tunnel seven miles long in one day. I was involved in building an addition to the deep underground military base at Dulce, which is probably the deepest base. It goes down seven levels and over 2.5 miles deep. I helped hollow out more than 13 deep underground military bases in the United States.
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More thought-provoking images of tunnel boring equipment:
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From Dr Bill Deagle's December 2006 Granada Forum Lecture:
I took care of John Fialla, who was best friends with Phil Schneider. How many people know about Phil Schneider? Well, they were using tunneling machines back in the mid-90s that could tunnel through a rock face at seven miles per day, that could cut through a rock face with high-energy impact lasers that could blow the nano-sized particles of rock so that there was no debris left, forming an obsidian-like core, and laying an inner core for unidirectional maglev trains that travel at Mach 2 to 2.8 underground between these very very powerful and organized cities.
There's 132 under the United States, an average of 5.36 to 7.24 cubic miles in size at an average of 1.5 to 4.5 miles underground, built, by and large, most of them in areas away from geotectonic areas - but there's going to be lots of new geotectonic faults established when you have force 11, 12, 13, 14 earthquakes hit the Earth.
Why are they rushing to do this? Because they know that catastrophe is coming. And where's this money coming from? It's not coming from our regular Black Op budget. It's coming from the illegal sale of drugs. In the United States there's at least, by conservative estimates, a quarter of a trillion to a half a trillion of illegal drugs just sold in the United States that goes directly into underground budgets, and 90-95% goes to the DUMBs [Deep Underground Military Bases].
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The following was written by Richard Sauder, PhD, adapted from his book Underground Bases and Tunnels:
The nuclear subterrene (rhymes with 'submarine') was designed at the Los Alamos National Laboratory, in New Mexico. A number of patents were filed by scientists at Los Alamos, a few federal technical documents were written - and then the whole thing just sort of faded away.
Or did it?
Nuclear subterrenes work by melting their way through the rock and soil, actually vitrifying it as they go, and leaving a neat, solidly glass-lined tunnel behind them.
The heat is supplied by a compact nuclear reactor that circulates liquid lithium from the reactor core to the tunnel face, where it melts the rock. In the process of melting the rock the lithium loses some of its heat. It is then circulated back along the exterior of the tunneling machine to help cool the vitrified rock as the tunneling machine forces its way forward. The cooled lithium then circulates back to the reactor where the whole cycle starts over. In this way the nuclear subterrene slices through the rock like a nuclear powered, 2,000 degree Fahrenheit (1,100 Celsius) earthworm, boring its way deep underground.
The United States Atomic Energy Commission and the United States Energy Research and Development Administration took out Patents in the 1970s for nuclear subterrenes. The first patent, in 1972 went to the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission.
The nuclear subterrene has an advantage over mechanical TBMs in that it produces no muck that must be disposed of by conveyors, trains, trucks, etc. This greatly simplifies tunneling. If nuclear subterrenes actually exist (and I do not know if they do) their presence, and the tunnels they make, could be very hard to detect, for the simple reason that there would not be the tell-tale muck piles or tailings dumps that are associated with the conventional tunneling activities.
The 1972 patent makes this clear. It states:
"... (D)ebris may be disposed of as melted rock both as a lining for the hole and as a dispersal in cracks produced in the surrounding rock. The rock-melting drill is of a shape and is propelled under sufficient pressure to produce and extend cracks in solid rock radially around the bore by means of hydrostatic pressure developed in the molten rock ahead of the advancing rock drill penetrator. All melt not used in glass-lining the bore is forced into the cracks where it freezes and remains ...
"... Such a (vitreous) lining eliminates, in most cases, the expensive and cumbersome problem of debris elimination and at the same time achieves the advantage of a casing type of bore hole liner."
"... Such a (vitreous) lining eliminates, in most cases, the expensive and cumbersome problem of debris elimination and at the same time achieves the advantage of a casing type of bore hole liner."
There you have it: a tunneling machine that creates no muck, and leaves a smooth, vitreous (glassy) tunnel lining behind.
Another patent three years later was for:
Another patent three years later was for:
A tunneling machine for producing large tunnels in soft rock or wet, clayey, unconsolidated or bouldery earth by simultaneously detaching the tunnel core by thermal melting a boundary kerf into the tunnel face and forming a supporting excavation wall liner by deflecting the molten materials against the excavation walls to provide, when solidified, a continuous wall supporting liner, and detaching the tunnel face circumscribed by the kerf with powered mechanical earth detachment means and in which the heat required for melting the kerf and liner material is provided by a compact nuclear reactor.
This 1975 patent further specifies that the machine is intended to excavate tunnels up to 12 meters in diameter or more. This means tunnels of 40 ft. or more in diameter. The kerf is the outside boundary of the tunnel wall that a boring machine gouges out as it bores through the ground or rock. So, in ordinary English, this machine will melt a circular boundary into the tunnel face. The melted rock will be forced to the outside of the tunnel by the tunnel machine, where it will form a hard, glassy tunnel lining (see the appropriate detail in the patent itself, as shown in Illustration 41). At the same time, mechanical tunnel boring equipment will grind up the rock and soil detached by the melted kerf and pass it to the rear of the machine for disposal by conveyor, slurry pipeline, etc.
And yet a third patent was issued to the United States Energy Research and Development Administration just 21 days later, on 27 May 1975 for a machine remarkably similar to the machine patented on 6 May 1975. The abstract describes:
And yet a third patent was issued to the United States Energy Research and Development Administration just 21 days later, on 27 May 1975 for a machine remarkably similar to the machine patented on 6 May 1975. The abstract describes:
A tunneling machine for producing large tunnels in rock by progressive detachment of the tunnel core by thermal melting a boundary kerf into the tunnel face and simultaneously forming an initial tunnel wall support by deflecting the molten materials against the tunnel walls to provide, when solidified, a continuous liner; and fragmenting the tunnel core circumscribed by the kerf by thermal stress fracturing and in which the heat required for such operations is supplied by a compact nuclear reactor.
This machine would also be capable of making a glass-lined tunnel of 40 ft. in diameter or more.
Perhaps some of my readers have heard the same rumors that I have heard swirling in the UFO literature and on the UFO grapevine: stories of deep, secret, glass-walled tunnels excavated by laser powered tunneling machines. I do not know if these stories are true. If they are, however, it may be that the glass-walled tunnels are made by the nuclear subterrenes described in these patents. The careful reader will note that all of these patents were obtained by agencies of the United States government. Further, all but one of the inventors are from Los Alamos, New Mexico. Of course, Los Alamos National Lab is itself the subject of considerable rumors about underground tunnels and chambers, Little Greys or "EBEs", and various other covert goings-on.
A 1973 Los Alamos study entitled Systems and Cost Analysis for a Nuclear Subterrene Tunneling Machine: A Preliminary Study, concluded that nuclear subterrene tunneling machines (NSTMs) would be very cost effective, compared to conventional TBMs.
Perhaps some of my readers have heard the same rumors that I have heard swirling in the UFO literature and on the UFO grapevine: stories of deep, secret, glass-walled tunnels excavated by laser powered tunneling machines. I do not know if these stories are true. If they are, however, it may be that the glass-walled tunnels are made by the nuclear subterrenes described in these patents. The careful reader will note that all of these patents were obtained by agencies of the United States government. Further, all but one of the inventors are from Los Alamos, New Mexico. Of course, Los Alamos National Lab is itself the subject of considerable rumors about underground tunnels and chambers, Little Greys or "EBEs", and various other covert goings-on.
A 1973 Los Alamos study entitled Systems and Cost Analysis for a Nuclear Subterrene Tunneling Machine: A Preliminary Study, concluded that nuclear subterrene tunneling machines (NSTMs) would be very cost effective, compared to conventional TBMs.
It stated:
Tunneling costs for NSTMs are very close to those for TBMs, if operating conditions for TBMs are favorable. However, for variable formations and unfavorable conditions such as soft, wet, bouldery ground or very hard rock, the NSTMs are far more effective. Estimates of cost and percentage use of NSTMs to satisfy U.S. transportation tunnel demands indicate a potential cost savings of 850 million dollars (1969 dollars) throughout 1990. An estimated NSTM prototype demonstration cost of $100 million over an eight-year period results in a favorable benefit-to-cost ratio of 8.5.
...Was the 1973 feasibility study only idle speculation, and is the astonishingly similar patent two years later only a wild coincidence? As many a frustrated inventor will tell you, the U.S. Patent Office only issues the paperwork when it's satisfied that the thing in question actually works!
In 1975 the National Science Foundation commissioned another cost analysis of the nuclear subterrene. The A.A. Mathews Construction and Engineering Company of Rockville, Maryland produced a comprehensive report with two, separate, lengthy appendices, one 235 and the other 328 pages.
A.A. Mathews calculated costs for constructing three different sized tunnels in the Southern California area in 1974. The three tunnel diameters were:
In 1975 the National Science Foundation commissioned another cost analysis of the nuclear subterrene. The A.A. Mathews Construction and Engineering Company of Rockville, Maryland produced a comprehensive report with two, separate, lengthy appendices, one 235 and the other 328 pages.
A.A. Mathews calculated costs for constructing three different sized tunnels in the Southern California area in 1974. The three tunnel diameters were:
a) 3.05 meters (10 ft.)
b) 4.73 meters (15.5 ft.)
b) 4.73 meters (15.5 ft.)
c) 6.25 meters (20.5 ft.)
Comparing the cost of using NSTMs to the cost of mechanical TBMs, A.A. Mathews determined:
Savings of 12 percent for the 4.73 meter (15.5 ft.) tunnel and 6 percent for the 6.25 meter (20.5 foot) tunnel were found to be possible using the NSTM as compared to current methods. A penalty of 30 percent was found for the 3.05 meter (10 foot) tunnel using the NSTM. The cost advantage for the NSTM results from the combination of,
(a) a capital rather than labor intensive system,
(b) formation of both initial support and final lining in conjunction with the excavation process.
This report has a number of interesting features. It is noteworthy in the first place that the government commissioned such a lengthy and detailed analysis of the cost of operating a nuclear subterrenes. Just as intriguing is the fact that the study found that the tunnels in the 15 ft. to 20 ft. diameter range can be more economically excavated by NSTMs than by conventional TBMs.
Finally, the southern California location that was chosen for tunneling cost analysis is thought provoking. This is precisely one of the regions of the West where there is rumored to be a secret tunnel system. Did the A.A. Mathews study represent part of the planning for an actual covert tunneling project that was subsequently carried out, when it was determined that it was more cost effective to use NSTMs than mechanical TBMs?
Whether or not nuclear subterrene tunneling machines have been used, or are being used, for subterranean tunneling is a question I cannot presently answer.
Finally, the southern California location that was chosen for tunneling cost analysis is thought provoking. This is precisely one of the regions of the West where there is rumored to be a secret tunnel system. Did the A.A. Mathews study represent part of the planning for an actual covert tunneling project that was subsequently carried out, when it was determined that it was more cost effective to use NSTMs than mechanical TBMs?
Whether or not nuclear subterrene tunneling machines have been used, or are being used, for subterranean tunneling is a question I cannot presently answer.
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BrokenDaniel
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Regardless of some of the perspectives that socionics may offer, it's just too cut and dry, the intertypes thing seem useless for personal growth, and kind of rat laboratory experiment. I love Jung, and this system takes away a lot of his spirit imo, it's more sociological than psychological and spiritual and that's what draws most people to know about themselves.
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Like many others he doesn't seem to want to hear
this is the thing about human psychology...people can actually warp their perception of reality to protect their own ego
If there is a reality that they don't want to face they can simply create a different perception of reality
People can actually re-write history and give a different version of events to avoid facing unpleasant truths
This creates a blind spot because most of society do not want to believe that there are incredibly manipulative people out there with very malevolent intentions so they simply refuse to face that reality and by turning a blind eye they create a blind spot in which those malevolent forces can then operate with virtual impunity (see all the corruption in high places)
The malevolent forces have in fact become adept at creating off the shelf perceptions of reality which they sell to the public so that the public can view reality that way rather than face the truth
Whats the difference between a hollywood fantasy movie and a mendacious news story? Nothing...they're both horseshit...except at least with the movie the viewer knows on a more conscious level that it is not real life
Hollywood is known as the 'dream factory' because it creates dreams....perceptions of reality and the news media does that too; it has its own storylines and narratives and villains and good guys
This dreamweaving can be done with anything....you can create a website that says that all the worst tyrants of history are INFJ's and anyone who wants to believe that reality will latch onto it
The el-ites know that most people believe what they want to believe
Have you ever seen the film 'catch me if you can' about a confidence trickster? The guy managed to convince people for years that he was a doctor and a pilot and a lawyer.....because he knew that most people will always believe an authority figure in uniform; with enough chutzpah he was able to create a false perception of who he was in their minds and that was their reality as far as they were concerned....many of them were so desperate to believe in that reality for example because he flattered them that they couldn't see past the deception
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Really? Then please explain, what does it mean?
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Newton is typed as an INFp even though he was certainly not an INFJ, and i know nothing about him. Nietzsche also, though i admit that there's a Feeler thing to him when you take his life into account, but Te stands out over Fe.. Both clear cut INTJs imo.
As for the take on functions... Well that's pretty simple, socionics works with 8 functions, not 4.
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Wow, you must be really something. So do you sacrifice, huh? In what particular way? By being "special"?
Beware, you have te oportunity to embarass yourself by what you will answer.
Well, pardon me, but that's normal and "minimum system requirements". If you have the idea you really do something because you "help" and "sacrifice" for you close one, and that makes you stand out...you really are a bookish INFJ, stupid without hope.
So, to repet, the good news is that you are a INFJ.
right...
but that's because you can be fooled, not because you "sacrifice" yourself...unless you sacrifice your head, along with logical thinking, then of course you are fooled, because you have no head to think with, you sacrificed it, and you are stupid, so you are fooled by people. Can you understand what I wrotte here?
sure...its only that what you wrotte here doesn't make any moral sense. Do you know what are the society's standard for a "ethical person"?
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sure man..."the INFJs would have been burnt out inside long before climbing to that level"...that is sure.
Sarcasm aside, I am thinking maybe INFJs are left aside not because they are too special and the corporation can't hold the weight of their specialness, but because they are stupid, weak willed, lazy and are just to self-centered to be responsable. How about this one?