Intuition - Origin and Definition

[TomasM]

Have you looked into intuition and the effect of psychedelic drugs?

I haven’t. I do have some awareness of both but certainly not how shallow or deep the connection / correlation may be between the two.

What was always there that you couldn't see or sense, now is in conscious awareness. So for people who are not "naturally intuitive", while on a psychedelic drug, are able to experience a lot of the insights and revelations that would come or be accepted more readily by someone who is already "naturally intuitive".

I’m familiar with some of the effects psychoactive drugs have on psychological states but I haven’t explored it to the depth of intuition. There has certainly been some clinical trials and procedures but I believe we are still in the infancy of understanding the true short or long-term use of these altered states - of course my knowledge on this a bit dated.

For the sake of discussion, I think we first have to identify and define a psychoactive drug. I believe you are confining this to drugs like: Ketamine, LSD, DMT, THC, Shrooms, Peyote, etc. Correct me if I’m wrong.

Other prescribed drugs could also be included: anti-(anxiety, depression, psychotic, etc).

Even caffeine, sugar, nicotine, alcohol, and chocolate could fit into the equation.

I’m not trying to alter the course here, only making a note of drugs that alter perception and engagement.

All of that said, I would be interested in knowing how much of an increase in intuitive ability is achieved under an altered state. Seems like that would be really hard to measure - makes me laugh thinking about the person taking notes (no disrespect here, just imagining).

The peripheral nervous system(PNS) collects information from the body which can be processed unconsciously. Thus, the activities of the PNS highly contribute to our intuitive senses of "something", that which we can "sense" but cannot see.

I haven’t been working much with the peripheral nervous system as it pertains to intuition. I have more recently been examining the sympathetic and parasympathetics relationship with some psychological states (primarily anxiety), and consciousness.

It seems as if you know a good deal about the connection between the peripheral system and intuition. I would love to hear more.

Just for clarification, I have moved most of my exploration of consciousness over to the ORCH OR Thread, but I expect that I will create a summary within this thread that starts to tie the two together in the near future. I wanted to create a status blog that provided a centralized status of the topics, and had reached out to the sites administration, but I don’t believe they have a solution [or one that will work within the confines of the platforms design].

Everybody knows, or is aware at some level, of all of this information, but since humans cannot be aware of everything all at once, and since humans cannot make all of the decisions and determinations about everything all at once, humans are compelled to gravitate to what they prefer to look at, determine, and present to the world.

The connection between the sensory and intuitive is a big part of what I’m exploring - the same could be said with the sensory and consciousness. We all have both and preference certainly plays a roll. Where is the demarcation between the two?

The connection between the peripheral nervous system (PNS) and intuition lies in the fact that the PNS transmits sensory information from the body to the brain, which can contribute to our "gut feelings" or intuitive sense of a situation, particularly through the vagus nerve which plays a key role in connecting the gut to the brain, allowing for subconscious processing of information that can influence our decision-making and perception of a situation.

I have explored the Vagus nerve and its connection between the gut and brain. I’ve also been exploring the “flow” of the electrical signals across the neurons within the brain. The traditional model has been that the “flow” of these electrical signals were on the exterior of the neurons but science, as of late, is starting to lean towards a flow that is directed by quantum states within the neurons. The potential implications of this are revolutionary but the science, only 30 years, is still in its infancy. Technology is rapidly accelerating these explorations and the advocates do have credibility in biology (neuro, cellular) and physics.

I’m really leaning towards a non-local perspective of intuition and consciousness but that’s not to suggest that I’m rejecting the old science.


ORCH OR thread (link)

 

[TomasM]

I was reflecting on intuition and the things that seem to activate it. Most of the psychological studies seem to focus more visual cues and this triggered an interest in better understanding the auditory as a stimulator of intuition.

There’s certain music that will often increase my focus and enhance intuition but there are also other kinds that seem to do the exact opposite.

Intuition and creativity are linked and there are certain auditory tones that can be used to increase creativity. Theta waves in the brain are usually linked to creativity and this makes me wonder if it’s possible to increase intuition through auditory stimulation.

Just writing down some ideas that sporadically came to mind.

 

[TomasM]

ASMR vs Frisson and Synesthesia

I’m still oscillating back and forth between the sensory and intuitive mind. I be very really understood ASMR because it didn’t make sense for me like so many other people. Recently I cam upon a full description of ASMR and it clicked that it was something that I experienced from a state within the mind (Frisson) rather than an externally sensory induced excitation. As I reflected more, I started to realize I have had some small experiences with ASMR but they are nowhere near as intense as Frisson. This made me wonder, if I could find the location within the brain where excitation is induced [dramatically] both from a sensory and / or mind trigger then I may be able to pinpoint the origin of the mind and corresponding consciousness and intuition. Still, I do believe there is a scaling involved where this is happening in a macro coordinated fashion but also a micro (sub neuron) integration (e.g. ORCH OR). In the case of ASMR / Frisson and Synesthesia, I’m focusing on the macro.

I found this video that describes an association between ASMR and Frisson:

Here’s another video on ASMR which is fun to watch and might provide a little more understanding.

I used the information in the first video to track down some information about The Default Mode Network (DMN) in the brain. (Link)

To connect it to the micro level, I’m going to reference a post from my blog on ORCH OR within this forum (Link). This article describes the movement of neuron activity across the brain as it relates to ORCH OR. It’s not an easy read.

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My creative mind right now is seeing each half of the brain connecting back to a center point within the brain. From there it traverses downward to the spinal column and the extrudes on either side through branching of the Vegus nerve with each hemisphere. The vegus nerve connects to all vital organs and extends all the way to the gut where emotions are more focused. It then enters back into the spinal column and completes the circuit.

This reminds me of two sunflowers. One flower associated with each hemisphere of the brain. One stem for each of the two vegus nerves that extend down either side of the spine. And a root system of nerves that extend down into the gut.

I’m free writing so try not to judge. Feel free to comment. There’s lots of puzzle pieces here so I wanted to get it all written for reference.

 

[TomasM]

TELEPATHY TAPES

I’ve just discovered the Telepathy Tapes and I’m not sure what to think of these yet, as I haven’t reviewed enough information / content.

To set the stage, the Telepathy Tapes is a podcast that discusses telepathic capabilities for non-speaking autistic people to read other people’s thoughts and communicate over distances without technological assistance.

To me this fits into the origin of Intuition in the same way that OBE, NDE, and often how there are many ND individuals that have elevated levels of Intuition. It also appears to wedge itself between that dichotomy of S-N in determining how a person takes in information from the world. If there can be varying levels of Sensory input it seems as though there should also be the potential intuitively.

Here’s a highlight video for reference, but I’ll also be reviewing information as I ingest more of the details. From my understanding [thus far] there is some scientific evaluation and testing but there are also skeptics. There’s part of me that wants to defend the claim simply because ND is close to so many within this space but I can’t do that blindly without due diligence.

The podcast and other videos are readily available on YT.

 

[just me]

3. Is intuition and manifestation connected? Manifestation would be outside the boundaries of this discussion if it is not connected.

Intuition and manifestation can travel on the same boat.

I found an interesting article on the actual topic mentioned above, although it is in German. Libet's experiment is discussed again there. There seems to have been a lot of wrong interpretation by the media, which of course immediately jumped on it because someone was able to ‘prove’ that humans do not have free will.

As people go, so they go. Some use what they find along the way, while others look into things for more details/evidence.

A person cannot be dissected and placed in different parts, if the reason is to find one purpose for each part. We should never forget the alive person and all his/her facilities....all as one.
More.

 

[Umai]

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To me this fits into the origin of Intuition in the same way that OBE, NDE, and often how there are many ND individuals that have elevated levels of Intuition. It also appears to wedge itself between that dichotomy of S-N in determining how a person takes in information from the world. If there can be varying levels of Sensory input it seems as though there should also be the potential intuitively.

I don't know much about these subjects at all but I tend to think of iNtuition in the MBTI sense as merely a label for a type of cognitive processing and it's a whole lot more mundane than the subjects of OBE's and ESP. 'Intuition' in the more esoteric sense of telepathy, ESP etc, etc is something independent of the MBTI axis. The Fourth Way psychology for example has ESP-type phenomena correlated with "types" that the MBTI community would probably regard as sensors.

Semantics and all that....

 

[TomasM]

I don't know much about these subjects at all but I tend to think of iNtuition in the MBTI sense as merely a label for a type of cognitive processing and it's a whole lot more mundane than the subjects of OBE's and ESP. 'Intuition' in the more esoteric sense of telepathy, ESP etc, etc is something independent of the MBTI axis. The Fourth Way psychology for example has ESP-type phenomena correlated with "types" that the MBTI community would probably regard as sensors.

Semantics and all that....

I think I understand how you get to this determination and I can recognize how it might be perceived as attempting to correlate intuition with something supernatural - that is not the case.

In a very simplistic description, intuition is connected with the unconscious / subconscious mind. If we follow this across a broad range of hard and soft sciences the connection between the subconscious and unconscious track back towards consciousness at its core.

If we track consciousness across a broad range of sciences a connection to some of these supernatural attributes starts to emerge.

I haven’t investigated ESP though it does by definition seem to be similar to intuition. If I saw something scientific or a case study that investigated it deep then perhaps I might give it a look.

OBEs have been explored in depth and there are a large number of experiences. This suggests that consciousness may in fact be non local or separate from the body. Skarekrow use to speak about this frequently.

NDE’s have also had a large degree of examples with very similar attributes.

MBTI’s explanation / definition of intuitions origin is incomplete and that’s why I’m exploring it. Even Jung couldn’t give good insight yet he has tied the two together on a dichotomy [as a means of identifying how people obtain their information.]

I know intuition may seem “mundane” on the surface, but if we start attempting to identify an origin it is anything but..

I don’t know what to make of the Telepathy Tapes but it does seem tie together some common attributes seen within NF’s that have been discussed across this forum. So, I thought I would give it a good look.

Another big part of my exploration has been with ORCH OR and how it attempts to identify an origin of consciousness within the brain - I’ve created a separate thread on that topic.

How would you rate your level of intuition (high / medium / low)?

 

[Umai]

How would you rate your level of intuition (high / medium / low)?

Low

 

[TomasM]

Telepathy Tapes Review



The podcast quickly gathered a very large audience during the Fall of 2024, briefly becoming the most popular podcast on some streaming services in the United States and the United Kingdom. As of January 2025, The Telepathy Tapes had a 4.9 stars rating on Spotify with over 2,000 reviews.

Preface: There are a couple reasons that I wanted to give consideration to this group of people exploring telepathic ability in the context of non-verbal autism.

The first is that I have felt for quite some time that there is an aspect of the N-S dichotomy where intuition has appeared stronger in scenarios where the sensory functions have been suppressed or distorted (not sure I'm using the correct words to describe this). The original question I had when starting this thread was, "3) Since it is a dichotomy does intuition extend itself from a deficiency in sensory function or is it an extra-sensory state of its own?" I asked this question because I recognized so many people that had this enhanced awareness of what was happening [in the world] but often presented somewhat awkward. Later I began to realize my connection to the ND attributes and this became even more enhanced into my reasoning.

I don't want to suggest that a person must have a deficiency in order to have an increased capacity for intuition because I believe there is a fundamental deficiency in measuring capacity within most [if not all] of the MBTI dichotomies. I say this because an introvert may have a preference towards introversion but that does not mean that they aren't highly capable at being extroverted - the same can be said for a preference towards feeling while having an IQ that is at a genius level.

I have also been exploring Frisson, ASMR and synesthesia recently and now I'm starting to hear the word savant (often associated with synesthesia) as being an attribute for several of these non-verbale autistic children. In many cases they struggle with problems in their sensory functioning - possibly an increase or decrease in the amplitude of various sensory functions that results in behavior that appears abnormal to the larger portion of the population. I see Frisson and ASMR as opposite sides of this amplitude where the more sensory might enjoy the increase in this sensory stimuli while those with Frisson might better appreciate an increase in intuitive or internal connections. In both cases, there seems to be an exhilarating effect on the scalp, skin, and spine. Again, a persons capacity for amplitude could be both high and / or low in both areas since there currently is no known measure of a persons capacity within the dichotomies or ASMR / Frisson.

This preface was just some of my original thoughts, so try not to take this as fact, but instead only as an observation of myself and those people I've come to know who have similar traits to myself.

Below is a documentary style video that was released. I've viewed it and so far it is the only video I've found that has any of the experiments. It's a bit long at to hours but if you like documentaries it is quite an interesting watch. The video is made by the same people who made the Telepathy Tapes and they are currently working towards a documentary that has more depth and detail.

The people creating the material, and those who are evaluating the non-verbal appear to be very genuine in their approach. The families appear to have great appreciation and bonds with their non-verbal members. At this time, I believe everyone involved appears to be honest and forthright in their disclosures.