Irrelevance of liberal, socialist and communist ideals in the modern world.

@Stu I made an honest attempt to take you seriously and listen to what you had to say. I did this in part because initially it seemed as if you had misinformed information but that it was still coming from real sources rather than made up ones. I simply cannot do this any longer in good conscience though. You have shown yourself to only be interested in benefit regardless of how it's obtained for your political ideals. Right, wrong and law only applies when it affects the party you support in a positive fashion and the party you do not in a negative fashion. You are the definition of hypocritical. While this word seems to carry little effect or weight these days I can assure you I see the word and definition as a grivious negative character trait for any and all it's applied to.

We have nothing left to discuss. I see you for what you are. Live a good life but I sincerely hope you are given the opportunity to affect others lives never or if so, in the smallest possible way.
 
Eventhorizon said:
@Stu I made an honest attempt to take you seriously and listen to what you had to say. I did this in part because initially it seemed as if you had misinformed information but that it was still coming from real sources rather than made up ones. I simply cannot do this any longer in good conscience though. You have shown yourself to only be interested in benefit regardless of how it's obtained for your political ideals. Right, wrong and law only applies when it affects the party you support in a positive fashion and the party you do not in a negative fashion. You are the definition of hypocritical. While this word seems to carry little effect or weight these days I can assure you I see the word and definition as a grivious negative character trait for any and all it's applied to.

We have nothing left to discuss. I see you for what you are. Live a good life but I sincerely hope you are given the opportunity to affect others lives never or if so, in the smallest possible way.
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Once again you miss the fundamental point that even after being investigated by the fbi Mrs Clinton was not indicted. And now, a year after the DOJ has changed hands there is still no further investigation and no indictment. The truth you claim to be so ardently seeking is partisan rhetoric. Slandering me will not square the facts.

It is convenient for you to smear me as the "definition of hypocritical" as you have lost every debate you have ever had with me.
 
Stu said:
Once again you miss the fundamental point that even after being investigated by the fbi Mrs Clinton was not indicted. And now, a year after the DOJ has changed hands there is still no further investigation and no indictment. The truth you claim to be so ardently seeking is partisan rhetoric. Slandering me will not square the facts.

It is convenient for you to smear me as the "definition of hypocritical" as you have lost every debate you have ever had with me.
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Good luck stu. Live long and prosper.
 
Insults and then ignores.
Typical.
 
This is a fun little chunk of an article!

"Obvious and direct verbal abuse, such as threats, judging, criticizing, lying, blaming, name-calling, ordering, and raging, are easy to recognize. Following are other subtle types of verbal abuse that are just as damaging as overt forms, particularly because they are harder to detect. When experienced over time, they have an insidious, deleterious effect, because you begin to doubt and distrust yourself.

Opposing: The abuser will argue against anything you say, challenging your perceptions, opinions, and thoughts. The abuser doesn’t listen or volunteer thoughts or feelings, but treats you as an adversary, in effect saying “No” to everything, so a constructive conversation is impossible.

Blocking: This is another tactic used to abort conversation. The abuser may switch topics, accuse you, or use words that in effect say, “Shut Up.”

Discounting & Belittling: This is verbal abuse that minimizes or trivializes your feelings, thoughts, or experiences. It’s a way of saying that your feelings don’t matter or are wrong.

Undermining & Interrupting: These words are meant to undermine your self-esteem and confidence, such as, “You don’t know what you’re talking about,” finishing your sentences, or speaking on your behalf without your permission.

Denying: An abuser may deny that agreements or promises were made, or that a conversation or other events took place, including prior abuse. The abuser instead may express affection or make declarations of love and caring. This is crazy-making and manipulative behavior, which leads you to gradually doubt your own memory, perceptions, and experience. In the extreme, a persistent pattern is called gaslighting, named after the classic Ingrid Bergman movie, Gaslight. In it, a husband used denial in a plot to make his wife believe she was losing her grip on reality."

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...ional-and-verbal-abuse-you-may-be-overlooking
 
Milktoast Bandit said:
This is a fun little chunk of an article!

"Obvious and direct verbal abuse, such as threats, judging, criticizing, lying, blaming, name-calling, ordering, and raging, are easy to recognize. Following are other subtle types of verbal abuse that are just as damaging as overt forms, particularly because they are harder to detect. When experienced over time, they have an insidious, deleterious effect, because you begin to doubt and distrust yourself.

Opposing: The abuser will argue against anything you say, challenging your perceptions, opinions, and thoughts. The abuser doesn’t listen or volunteer thoughts or feelings, but treats you as an adversary, in effect saying “No” to everything, so a constructive conversation is impossible.

Blocking: This is another tactic used to abort conversation. The abuser may switch topics, accuse you, or use words that in effect say, “Shut Up.”

Discounting & Belittling: This is verbal abuse that minimizes or trivializes your feelings, thoughts, or experiences. It’s a way of saying that your feelings don’t matter or are wrong.

Undermining & Interrupting: These words are meant to undermine your self-esteem and confidence, such as, “You don’t know what you’re talking about,” finishing your sentences, or speaking on your behalf without your permission.

Denying: An abuser may deny that agreements or promises were made, or that a conversation or other events took place, including prior abuse. The abuser instead may express affection or make declarations of love and caring. This is crazy-making and manipulative behavior, which leads you to gradually doubt your own memory, perceptions, and experience. In the extreme, a persistent pattern is called gaslighting, named after the classic Ingrid Bergman movie, Gaslight. In it, a husband used denial in a plot to make his wife believe she was losing her grip on reality."

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...ional-and-verbal-abuse-you-may-be-overlooking
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Youve posted this in this thread for what reason? Trolling?
 
Milktoast Bandit said:
In the extreme, a persistent pattern is called gaslighting, named after the classic Ingrid Bergman movie, Gaslight.
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Love that movie by the way. Joseph Cotton works for Scotland yard but he still speaks with an American accent. Maybe they explained it in the film and I just missed it but I think they just didn't bother explaining. Just as well either way, he's a good actor I loved him in The Third Man
 
Reason With Logic Filling said:
Love that movie by the way. Joseph Cotton works for Scotland yard but he still speaks with an American accent. Maybe they explained it in the film and I just missed it but I think they just didn't bother explaining. Just as well either way, he's a good actor I loved him in The Third Man
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Are either of those movies Back to the Future?
 
Milktoast Bandit said:
This is a fun little chunk of an article!

"Obvious and direct verbal abuse, such as threats, judging, criticizing, lying, blaming, name-calling, ordering, and raging, are easy to recognize. Following are other subtle types of verbal abuse that are just as damaging as overt forms, particularly because they are harder to detect. When experienced over time, they have an insidious, deleterious effect, because you begin to doubt and distrust yourself.

Opposing: The abuser will argue against anything you say, challenging your perceptions, opinions, and thoughts. The abuser doesn’t listen or volunteer thoughts or feelings, but treats you as an adversary, in effect saying “No” to everything, so a constructive conversation is impossible.

Blocking: This is another tactic used to abort conversation. The abuser may switch topics, accuse you, or use words that in effect say, “Shut Up.”

Discounting & Belittling: This is verbal abuse that minimizes or trivializes your feelings, thoughts, or experiences. It’s a way of saying that your feelings don’t matter or are wrong.

Undermining & Interrupting: These words are meant to undermine your self-esteem and confidence, such as, “You don’t know what you’re talking about,” finishing your sentences, or speaking on your behalf without your permission.

Denying: An abuser may deny that agreements or promises were made, or that a conversation or other events took place, including prior abuse. The abuser instead may express affection or make declarations of love and caring. This is crazy-making and manipulative behavior, which leads you to gradually doubt your own memory, perceptions, and experience. In the extreme, a persistent pattern is called gaslighting, named after the classic Ingrid Bergman movie, Gaslight. In it, a husband used denial in a plot to make his wife believe she was losing her grip on reality."

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...ional-and-verbal-abuse-you-may-be-overlooking
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Good stuff. Especially the denying bit.. They sure do use it.
 
Eventhorizon said:
Youve posted this in this thread for what reason? Trolling?
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Eventhorizon said:
@Stu I made an honest attempt to take you seriously and listen to what you had to say. I did this in part because initially it seemed as if you had misinformed information but that it was still coming from real sources rather than made up ones. I simply cannot do this any longer in good conscience though. You have shown yourself to only be interested in benefit regardless of how it's obtained for your political ideals. Right, wrong and law only applies when it affects the party you support in a positive fashion and the party you do not in a negative fashion. You are the definition of hypocritical. While this word seems to carry little effect or weight these days I can assure you I see the word and definition as a grivious negative character trait for any and all it's applied to.

We have nothing left to discuss. I see you for what you are. Live a good life but I sincerely hope you are given the opportunity to affect others lives never or if so, in the smallest possible way.
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Yeah have no clue. Apparently you don't either.
 
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