Left or Liberal?
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Communism isn't the absence of nationalism. I could be a fuckin' ancap for all you know.
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“If a person defends the actions of communist nations while constantly attacking the foreign and domestic policy of the United States, she (they) may be a communist.”
Gee, that last part sounds just like an orange narcissistic buffoon with a bad combover - he may be a communist!
well what i know is that you hate nationalists or at least ones that are white
maybe you don't have a problem with all the other people of all kinds of skin colour around the world who have their own nation states....
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Have you ever seen the Caine Mutiny?
Whether or not the strawberries were actually stolen from the galley Captain Queeg was still having a paranoid breakdown
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I'm all for condemning communism and extremism but it's important not to get caught in a confirmation bias loop where you endlessly find what you're looking for precisely because you're looking for it. Put down the ideological lense every now and again and consider the possibility of being wrong.
Edit: I had high hopes for this discussion, but I'm finding mostly ideological possession. Very disappointing.
Edit: I had high hopes for this discussion, but I'm finding mostly ideological possession. Very disappointing.
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This post is very revealing...
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No i have no idea what you are talking about
concerning the idea of having a paranoid breakdown i would say i'm well past the stage where the dial is in the red
I learned things about what were going on in the world that were deeply disturbing and it did throw me off balance in life for a while. However i'm very stable and have been for a long time
If we talk of paranoia it kind of implies a fear of something that doesn't exist or it implies that our fear is out of proportion to the perceived threat
I'd say that the point in my life where the dial was in the red was where my anxiety was at its highest but to be fair to myself i had things going on in other areas of my life that were all combining at that time
Over the years I have been able to learn more and refine my understanding and on top of that i have been able to watch events occur in the world that have then checked out with what i'm learning thereby increasing the accuracy
So no i am neither having a breakdown nor am i paranoid
well let me qualify that statement
so my search for truth permeates my life yes. I am a very curious person and my brain craves constant input of information. I spend a lot of my time either taking in information or discussing that information with other people and offline life doesn't present the opportunity to do this all the time as i'm not always with company who want to discuss things that interest me
So those 5 hours a day i mention there that i spend seeking information and discussing information includes exploring many areas that aren't always directly focussed on the conspiracy i'm speaking about but provide me with a wider context within which to view that conspiracy
So its not quite as obsessive as it sounds however i am a self professed uber-geek
your words ring empty because they have no substance to back them up
where is your reasoning for this? where is your factual evidence? where is your evidence?
do i have evidence for what i'm saying? yes
am i sharing evidence? yes
and that's why you can see that what i'm saying has substance
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'City of Surveillance': Google-backed smart city sounds like a dystopian nightmare
Published time: 24 Oct, 2018 21:43 Edited time: 24 Oct, 2018 21:52
A Google-backed project to build the interconnected, data-driven ‘city of the future’ sounds like all George Orwell’s nightmares come true, and is now in the spotlight after a privacy expert resigned from the project in protest.
Toronto’s Waterfront district used to be an industrial wasteland, but Sidewalk Labs – a sister company of Google – wants to turn that wasteland into a prototype ‘city of the future,’ where data helps planners micromanage every aspect of urban life. The planned Quayside neighborhood will house 5,000 people when built, expanding to host another 5,000 within three to four years, its creators say.
In running the neighborhood as efficiently as possible, Sidewalk Labs will utilize a range of innovative technologies. Sensors will manage street crowds and time traffic signals appropriately, cameras will watch over parks and public spaces, planners will be able to track the movement of every vehicle, person and drone, and garbage cans will monitor their owners’ trash to optimize waste management.
All of these data points will be fed into a database Sidewalk Labs calls its ‘Digital Layer,’ used by planners to monitor and tweak the neighborhood’s running, and then stored in a repository it calls the ‘Civic Data Trust.’ Nobody will own the data stored in the trust, and the trust’s board will decide who can access it.
That’s where the problems begin. Sidewalk Labs’ privacy consultant Ann Cavoukian had requested that the company scrub the residents’ data of all personal information, a request that Sidewalk Labs agreed to. However, the company said it would not require other parties with access to the trust to ‘de-identify’ any data collected, it would only “encourage” them to.
“When I heard that, I said, ‘I’m sorry. I can’t support this. I have to resign because you committed to embedding privacy by design into every aspect of your operation,’” Cavoukian told Global News, before severing her ties with the company on Friday.
Furthermore, Sidewalk Labs will allow third parties to build apps that plug into the digital layer, potentially giving them access to residents’ most intimate information. Your every move, your shopping list, the places you frequent, the events you attend and even the contents of your trash could all be fair game for third-party developers.
Cavoukian called the visionary project a “city of surveillance,” but she is not the only expert who finds the plan terrifying. Former Blackberry co-CEO Jim Balsillie called the project “a colonizing experiment in surveillance capitalism,” and TechGirls Canada founder Saadia Muzaffar left her role on a Sidewalk Labs advisory panel earlier this month, saying she had “profound concerns” about the company’s “lack of leadership regarding shaky public trust.”
And why should the public trust a Google-connected company with its data? Google already keeps extensive records on its users. Every journey made with an Android phone, every YouTube video watched, data from every app downloaded, and sound and images from laptop microphones and cameras are all available to the tech giant by default.
All of this data is kept by Google, unless of course the government requests that Google hands it over – which US government agencies have done over 20,000 times in the first half of 2018, with over 80 percent of requests fulfilled.
Whatever about the government, at least private companies can’t access Google’s treasure trove of personal data, right? Wrong. Google told US senators in July that it lets app developers share user data with marketers for the purposes of ad-targeting “so long as they are transparent with the users about how they are using the data.” This notice can be seen in a pop-up box when a user installs an app, or can be buried in the app’s privacy statement.
With google already enjoying unfettered access to your digital life, Sidewalk Labs’ Toronto project looks set to extend that access into your physical life too. No wonder experts like Cavoukian are troubled by the privacy implications.
“Your personal information, your privacy is critical. It is not just a fundamental human right. It forms the foundation of our freedom,” she said.
Or, as Apple CEO Tim Cook put it at an EU-sponsored privacy conference in Belgium this week: “Data assembled to create a digital profile lets companies know you better than you know yourself. This is surveillance.”
https://www.rt.com/news/442188-toronto-google-surveilance-city-privacy/
Published time: 24 Oct, 2018 21:43 Edited time: 24 Oct, 2018 21:52
A Google-backed project to build the interconnected, data-driven ‘city of the future’ sounds like all George Orwell’s nightmares come true, and is now in the spotlight after a privacy expert resigned from the project in protest.
Toronto’s Waterfront district used to be an industrial wasteland, but Sidewalk Labs – a sister company of Google – wants to turn that wasteland into a prototype ‘city of the future,’ where data helps planners micromanage every aspect of urban life. The planned Quayside neighborhood will house 5,000 people when built, expanding to host another 5,000 within three to four years, its creators say.
In running the neighborhood as efficiently as possible, Sidewalk Labs will utilize a range of innovative technologies. Sensors will manage street crowds and time traffic signals appropriately, cameras will watch over parks and public spaces, planners will be able to track the movement of every vehicle, person and drone, and garbage cans will monitor their owners’ trash to optimize waste management.
All of these data points will be fed into a database Sidewalk Labs calls its ‘Digital Layer,’ used by planners to monitor and tweak the neighborhood’s running, and then stored in a repository it calls the ‘Civic Data Trust.’ Nobody will own the data stored in the trust, and the trust’s board will decide who can access it.
That’s where the problems begin. Sidewalk Labs’ privacy consultant Ann Cavoukian had requested that the company scrub the residents’ data of all personal information, a request that Sidewalk Labs agreed to. However, the company said it would not require other parties with access to the trust to ‘de-identify’ any data collected, it would only “encourage” them to.
“When I heard that, I said, ‘I’m sorry. I can’t support this. I have to resign because you committed to embedding privacy by design into every aspect of your operation,’” Cavoukian told Global News, before severing her ties with the company on Friday.
Furthermore, Sidewalk Labs will allow third parties to build apps that plug into the digital layer, potentially giving them access to residents’ most intimate information. Your every move, your shopping list, the places you frequent, the events you attend and even the contents of your trash could all be fair game for third-party developers.
Cavoukian called the visionary project a “city of surveillance,” but she is not the only expert who finds the plan terrifying. Former Blackberry co-CEO Jim Balsillie called the project “a colonizing experiment in surveillance capitalism,” and TechGirls Canada founder Saadia Muzaffar left her role on a Sidewalk Labs advisory panel earlier this month, saying she had “profound concerns” about the company’s “lack of leadership regarding shaky public trust.”
And why should the public trust a Google-connected company with its data? Google already keeps extensive records on its users. Every journey made with an Android phone, every YouTube video watched, data from every app downloaded, and sound and images from laptop microphones and cameras are all available to the tech giant by default.
All of this data is kept by Google, unless of course the government requests that Google hands it over – which US government agencies have done over 20,000 times in the first half of 2018, with over 80 percent of requests fulfilled.
Whatever about the government, at least private companies can’t access Google’s treasure trove of personal data, right? Wrong. Google told US senators in July that it lets app developers share user data with marketers for the purposes of ad-targeting “so long as they are transparent with the users about how they are using the data.” This notice can be seen in a pop-up box when a user installs an app, or can be buried in the app’s privacy statement.
With google already enjoying unfettered access to your digital life, Sidewalk Labs’ Toronto project looks set to extend that access into your physical life too. No wonder experts like Cavoukian are troubled by the privacy implications.
“Your personal information, your privacy is critical. It is not just a fundamental human right. It forms the foundation of our freedom,” she said.
Or, as Apple CEO Tim Cook put it at an EU-sponsored privacy conference in Belgium this week: “Data assembled to create a digital profile lets companies know you better than you know yourself. This is surveillance.”
https://www.rt.com/news/442188-toronto-google-surveilance-city-privacy/
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