That reminded me I made this really cool thing out of clay, I think I've got it in a box somewhere. It was abstract and unplanned, and I was at a Jungian therapists retreat, as a dance therapy student, and they had a clay room...so I pretty full of all this stuff, It turned out like a cross between an angel figure with wings and an owl head, and a big beak like thing. It's pretty unsophisticated and rough looking but I love it. It represented all these different things to me at the time, and it just literally emerged out of my unconscious. It's a shame I never got to get it in the kiln because I think it's nose has fallen off.
 
That reminded me I made this really cool thing out of clay, I think I've got it in a box somewhere. It was abstract and unplanned, and I was at a Jungian therapists retreat, as a dance therapy student, and they had a clay room...so I pretty full of all this stuff, It turned out like a cross between an angel figure with wings and an owl head, and a big beak like thing. It's pretty unsophisticated and rough looking but I love it. It represented all these different things to me at the time, and it just literally emerged out of my unconscious.
Curious!
Sounds cool....it's interesting that you describe it as half angel half owl looking.
Owls have become fairly synonymous with UFOs and those who have a connection....while modern theory suggests that UFO contact in our early ancestors may explain things such as Angels.
Maybe there was some deeper connection there.
 
Curious!
Sounds cool....it's interesting that you describe it as half angel half owl looking.
Owls have become fairly synonymous with UFOs and those who have a connection....while modern theory suggests that UFO contact in our early ancestors may explain things such as Angels.
Maybe there was some deeper connection there.

I thought there was, to me it also evoked this thing about flying (OBE/dreams) which I had as a kid and which were such vivid and fantastic memories at the time. Symbolism; Awakening consciousness, wisdom, and the long pointy beak; the old hag/ crone, kind of aged - passing time - connection to ancient knowledge / secrets, (or the psyche itself). I know it sounds weird but I also saw myself sitting on top of a giant bird flying outside my living room window ('saw' in my minds eye). OK I don't normally mention that, please don't take me off to the loony bin! After I had my Reiki attunements I noticed being more in touch with my psyche in various ways. I think that's also why I left London because I felt I needed to be in a 'purer' space, and I was clearing my chakras. Lol, I've got to get this thing out of it's box and get it in a kiln. It's the kind of thing no one else but myself would appreciate, if I had it around the place but I like it. Lol, I've lived here 6 years and I've still got some stuff in boxes.

I feel a bit weird sharing this, because it probably sounds a bit like unbelievable, fanciful or pretentious bull (but probably not to you though- (Lol, I'm OK I'm on an INFJ forum).
 
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I've got this great book about OBE which I have been meaning to find to share with you (but it's also in a box and seems to be temporarily lost). In the book the author talks about sleepwalking and OBE and how they can occur separately and also simultaneously. And I think he also mentions dream state and OBE and how they coincide. I'll let you know and share when I do find it. I need more shelves, this storage situating is peeing me off, lol!
 
In HS art class our teacher told us to make something out of clay

Sorry I'm nib-shitting on this conversation while I have some down time...

In my HS art class, we had to make something out of clay. I took a big lump of clay pulled some parts of it so it looked like a few spikes, carved a few weird shaped holes, then painted faces on it using the holes as mouths and the spikes as noses, then painted each face a different color. I called it the Unity Clod and it was hideous. ... I got a D-
 
Sorry I'm nib-shitting on this conversation while I have some down time...

In my HS art class, we had to make something out of clay. I took a big lump of clay pulled some parts of it so it looked like a few spikes, carved a few weird shaped holes, then painted faces on it using the holes as mouths and the spikes as noses, then painted each face a different color. I called it the Unity Clod and it was hideous. ... I got a D-

It sounds pretty good to me, was it something you wanted to keep hold of?
 
I thought there was, to me it also evoked this thing about flying (OBE/dreams) which I had as a kid and which were such vivid and fantastic memories at the time. Symbolism; Awakening consciousness, wisdom, and the long pointy beak; the old hag/ crone, kind of aged - passing time - connection to ancient knowledge / secrets, (or the psyche itself). I know it sounds weird but I also saw myself sitting on top of a giant bird flying outside my living room window ('saw' in my minds eye). OK I don't normally mention that, please don't take me off to the loony bin! After I had my Reiki attunements I noticed being more in touch with my psyche in various ways. I think that's also why I left London because I felt I needed to be in a 'purer' space, and I was clearing my chakras. Lol, I've got to get this thing out of it's box and get it in a kiln. It's the kind of thing no one else but myself would appreciate, if I had it around the place but I like it. Lol, I've lived here 6 years and I've still got some stuff in boxes.

I feel a bit weird sharing this, because it probably sounds a bit like unbelievable, fanciful or pretentious bull (but probably not to you though- (Lol, I'm OK I'm on an INFJ forum).
Sounds really awesome actually!
You probably created a talisman or idol....it may have some kind of magic in it.
It was at a spiritual retreat yes?
I have one of those 1960's glass heads they would display hats on.
I put a base on it and have branches wrapped in various colors of wire....the branches reach up inside and hold a big piece of purple fluorite...as if it were its brain...I sometimes get the idea that it is conscious on some level because of what I'd made...anyway, it would be hard to disassemble...like I would kill it.

I've got this great book about OBE which I have been meaning to find to share with you (but it's also in a box and seems to be temporarily lost). In the book the author talks about sleepwalking and OBE and how they can occur separately and also simultaneously. And I think he also mentions dream state and OBE and how they coincide. I'll let you know and share when I do find it. I need more shelves, this storage situating is peeing me off, lol!
Let me know, there are several I'm reading right now.
I have never slept walked, nor has anyone close to me except one peculiar night when my Dad woke me up...out of 5 kids and he wakes me up.
He's says...Move.
I'm like...What?
Move out of the way.
I slid down to the middle of the bed.
No, get out of the bed.
I get out and stand there as he gets in my bed...pulls up the covers and goes to sleep.
I'm standing there like wtf should I do now.
Deciding not to wake him up...I was about 8 I guess...I just climbed in his bed and went to sleep.
The next morning my Mom wakes me up asking where my Dad is and I tell her what happened.
We go into the bedroom and wake him up...and he's like wtf also.
Never has sleepwalked (gah, is that proper English?! Hideous word) sleptwalked, before or since...wasn't on any medications and still trying to figure out wtf.
Lol


Sorry I'm nib-shitting on this conversation while I have some down time...

In my HS art class, we had to make something out of clay. I took a big lump of clay pulled some parts of it so it looked like a few spikes, carved a few weird shaped holes, then painted faces on it using the holes as mouths and the spikes as noses, then painted each face a different color. I called it the Unity Clod and it was hideous. ... I got a D-

That's awesome you got your project back...she just said mine broke in the kiln...which was a lie...she hated it, and disliked that I was giving her the bird with my mug....hahahaha...I hope she remembers that.
Sounds like a kick ass incense burner!
 
You probably created a talisman or idol....it may have some kind of magic in it.

Wow, your right!

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It was a brilliant annual retreat / conference for Jungian therapists, me and another student applied and got bursaries to go, it was pretty brilliant actually we did all kinds of shit. One thing wasn't so great my friend was pregnant (and a bit more vulnerable), and we both had to share a room with someone else who had applied who was not really a therapist - and who turned out to be a complete nutter. Anyway, it was all worked out in the end. - We got her taken out of our room, lol.
 
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Wow, your right!

It was at a spiritual retreat yes?

It was a brilliant annual retreat / conference for Jungian therapists, me and another student applied and got bursaries to go, it was pretty brilliant actually we did all kinds of shit. One thing wasn't so great my friend was pregnant (and a bit more vulnerable), and we both had to share a room with someone else who had applied who was not really a therapist - and who turned out to be a complete nutter. Anyway, it was all worked out in the end. - We got her taken out of our room, lol.
That sounds like a very different type of retreat...seems like it would be nice.
 
So just saw I guess what was a UFO or two, not sure...was lying on the deck at my Mom's house that I have been watching while she is traveling.
Anyhow...looking up at the stars, enjoying the night breeze...I see what looks to be about the same brightness as the group of stars I was looking at flash bright for just a second....I figure...high flying aircraft...and look to see where it flashes next which it did...only way off to the east of the original flash....I think....this must be up really high to be moving that fast....like in space kind of fast if you've ever spotted a satellite and watched it pass by...so I see another flash only this time it was way to the south of the original flash.
No possible way it was a single aircraft...there was no sound of jet engines...even up high you would hear them....so it had to be silent or in space I figure.
I see a flash back to the original spot then back to the south, which then gives an almost immediate second dim flash then it's gone....no more flashes.
An aircraft wouldn't do that...it is a totally clear night....if it was a single UFO then it moves fucking fast....but maybe it was a group signaling to one another.
Thing is...I did just ask any aliens for a sign...just for the hell of it...probably coincidental...but odd nonetheless, I will keep you updated if I am abducted.
Surely they have more comfortable anal probes worked out by now. ;)
 
You are most welcome...I can go off onto further tangents and theories if you want me to, just let me know.
I am still a skeptic even though I have had some extraordinary experiences...mostly subjective, but several were witnessed by other people who were quite freaked out.
Perhaps he had some mediumship skills...perhaps he has a bit of telepathy?
Telepathy btw...infers suffering...pathos - suffering...a quality that evokes pity or sadness.
You are suffering from your knowing.
And it seems indeed many who had such a gift did suffer from how they were perceived by others.
If we view the brain as the receiver of information, the decoder, the filter...and not look at it as the producer of consciousness.
The “pathos” was probably added because of the occurrence of this type of ability centering around an event of traumatic magnitude, physical or mental trauma....so often these types of “knowings” are as if the brain-filter is compromised or suppressed....illness, suffering, and around death.
Historically speaking, the shamans, sages, prophets, bards, seers, poets...were the ones who would induce a trance state in order to “hear” messages from the dead, from God(s), to some collective consciousness.
There are some people who are really good at cold reading people too...I wouldn’t put it past anyone.
There are techniques that people can easily learn that make people think you are revealing some mysterious “knowing” when in fact they have been learning about the person in sly and almost unnoticeable ways to later use to give the impression they have psychic powers.
Not to say that there are not also people with what seems to be psychic or PSI powers.
Imho, we are all able to do this and do this all day subconsciously anyhow.
There are thousands of people who have come forward with stories of dreams of buildings falling down as they slept in the wee hours of 9/11.
Precognition has some very sound and compelling proof, if one were to just look for it and supersede their own biases or taboos that surround such a thing.
BTW, you kind of look like the main character on that new show about mutants...ummmm....”Legion”.
Just fyi.
As far as mushrooms go...and this is only my personal opinion though it is shared by many others.
They remove part of the filters that our brain puts in place to allow us to function in the most efficient way possible.
The subtle energies that are all around us constantly seem to become visible...I was able to see a great grid over the earth connecting stars to one another...what is most bizarre about that...as you know things are constantly morphing and changing while on mushrooms...this did not change.
I could go back in the house...and then go back outside and the grid was still in the exact place it was before - very unlike the normal morphing.
I even asked my SO if she could see it, it was so defined and realistic.
They are what truly broke me free from the crippling depression that has plagued me my entire life.
I have had several concussions as a child as well, which may have very well contributed to that.
But...people have witnessed voices that seem to emanate from the middle of the room when there is no one there when with me.
Electronics have turned on and done weird shit around me ever since I was a kid...damn R2-D2 remote control nightmare at 2am moving by itself on my dresser...it had been moving in it’s box under my bed beneath my pillow...I woke to hear noises coming through the mattress and ran screaming out of the room...probably 4 or 5 years old...idk...it happened twice...and both times the fucker was off.
There is occasional knocking that happens when I am really sick.
Whenever I decide to detox off the pain meds...which I routinely do to help maintain efficacy....there are knocks in the walls heard by my SO and our bedroom door slammed shut in the middle of the night (windows closed).
Shit has been thrown and hit by unseen forces, one with a witness, one not.
My Son saw a ball of light after hearing what sounded like me yelling really loud in the middle of the night...only to hear it cease once he opened his door...saw a ball of light go past the door....this was also the night I went OOB and was yelling at whatever it was to - Get the fuck out of my house, you have no right to be here!” And I pushed whatever it was away with waves of energy that seemed to emanate from my core.
Very similar to the vibrational stage before induced astral projection.
I personally have left my body purposefully several times now...they were not lucid dreams...this feels and experiences like nothing you’ve ever known...which is why it is so shocking the first time you self-induce.
As far as animals knowing...they have done several studies of animals knowing when their owners are coming home.
They even changed up the times they arrived home...changed the car in some cases....parked around the corner and walked where they couldn’t be seen, etc.
Yet, they still got results that show that something is happening and that some kind of connection is there.
Here is a short video about a study they did with a parrot and it’s owner.

As far as remote viewing goes...our military had on the books such a program when the cold war started until the early 90’s when it went dark.
All the major governments have had PSI programs...and they have received incredible results in some cases such as an underground soviet submarine base that was only accessible from a submarine...yet, they were able to obtain very detailed drawings of the facility that later matched up when they finally did get pictures or schematics to a degree that is uncanny.
I myself did an experiment once...was dating this girl who drew me a picture as a gift...she was a good artist...anyhow....I couldn’t sleep...it was close to 3am...I stared at this picture and for some reason I felt like I could pull positive energy from it, you could tell she put a lot of time and effort into it.
I then pictured myself leaving my house and making sure to include every twist and turn it took to get to her house, which consequently was on the other side of the city...but I made sure not to jump ahead...once I got there....I went into her room (I am picturing all this in my head), and said to her “Call me, call me, call me.”
I shit you not...my phone rang 30 seconds later as she woke up and had the urge to call me.
Fucking bizarre.
But I feel that these types of things are not so unnatural as some people think they are.
Imho it is only via the “reducer” or “filter” that the brain act as that doesn’t allow us to see these as normal...perhaps not everyday experiences...but nonetheless not “unnatural”, or more than that “Supernatural".
Instead of taking an objective look at phenomena that cannot be explained, we have thus far across our history - contented ourselves with either accepting them or rejecting them...when we should have a more inclusive and questioning approach that is more interesting and intellectually useful...a view that would be capable of offering the culture some advancement in the clarity of its vision of reality...rather than a continuation of the confusion that has bugged us since Zeus was God.

If you want to see for yourself...you should practice astral projection.
It takes time and commitment...but the payoff is priceless.

Very interesting. Thanks. I wish these mysteries were understood by us. Perhaps some day they will be.
 
Aww shucks, they are not one in the same @LittleLissa ?? :p I can't speak for others, however, share this part of you more often. It gives me a greater experience of who you are. :)

Aww Sandie.

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Doctors Open Real Life ‘Farmacies’ — Treat Patients With Organic Vegetables Instead of Pills
June 30, 2017 by Edward Morgan

“The food you eat can either be the safest & the most powerful form of medicine or the slowest form of poison” – Ann Wigmore

At a reputed medical centre in the US, a unique experiment is on; doing common things in most UN common way.

Here the patients are being treated with select fruits and vegetables from its Farmacy (Farm) instead of medicines from its Pharmacy.

According to the director of the medical centre the patients have responded positively to this innovative method.

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The director added that based on this success story, it is time to create awareness about the efficacy of fresh fruits and vegetables over the conventional approach of treating patients with the pills which inflict a number of side effects on the patient.

At the medical center’s Farmacy, a variety of fruits and vegetables are grown scientifically such as bananas, oranges, apples, carrots and items of green salad at the most economic cost giving deep discounts to inculcate the habit of eating fresh fruits and vegetables direct from the Farmacy, instead of popping pills which not only harms the body but also digs a big hole in the patient’s pocket, leaving him high and dry.

This Farmacy, though unique in many ways is not the only one in the States.

Plant-based wholesome organic foods are the most powerful disease repelling tools and are much more powerful than any drug or surgery.

They have proved themselves more effective in preventing chronic heart attacks, strokes, cardiovascular diseases and cancers, claims the spokesperson of the medical center.

On the contrary the use of modern medicines and its compounds being manufactured by the Pharma companies have caused many problems to the civil society, both within our country and elsewhere, he added.

Programmers like growing plant based organic foods would go long way in reforming heath care system and keeping a tap on big Pharma stronghold in the heath care market for the benefit of consumers, he claims.

“Let Food be the Medicine and Medicines be thy Food”, said Hippocrates many centuries ago but his message forgotten over the time due to commercial considerations.

India too has its own version of Farmacies with Yogic and Ashrams spread across the country actively engaged in rendering advice on heath care problems and farming of quality food stuffs in the form of fruits and vegetables.

Their product range include Melons, Buck wheat, Avocados, Apples, bananas, oranges, carrots , reddish, items of green salad, garlic, broccolis, papayas, cucumbers.

While some of product range is excellent colon cleaner, others protect heart cardiovascular system and have excellent antioxidants attributes.

They not only help us to be less susceptible to life style disease and illness but have also lead to increase in our life span in much better way than the modern medicines.

These Ashrams are well equipped to advise on various heath care options based on various modern and ancient systems of medical care, including Ayurveda, Yoga and naturopathy, Unani, Siddha and Homeopathy etc as suitable to the patient.

However, primacy is given to the ancient and time tested systems having Zero side effects.

Today though the life expectancy has increased but the quality of life has not kept its pace with the overall developments and improvements due to many factors including side effects of heavy doses of medicines to keep the life on and on….

In the process, the old and weak are the victims of the prolonged agony and pain in their extended “Death Years”.

With prey on their lips, they seek redemption from the prolonged death years, sooner rather than later!

Reference: SimpleCapacity.com / The book The Nature’s Farmacy is available on Amazon.com

Source: http://humansarefree.com/2017/06/do...gn=Feed:+humansarefree/aQPD+(Humans+Are+Free)

http://prepareforchange.net/doctors...at-patients-organic-vegetables-instead-pills/



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Is there a history of them in your area?
Yes...supposedly there is an area in eastern Washington where you see shit like that every night.
I have to say...it was not a plane....nor two planes...they would flash the same color of the stars...only slightly brighter...and it was more sustained than the blinking lights of an aircraft.
I did go back out, and saw a satellite passing over, just like I had talked about...if I had to guess...I would say these flashes were in space.
 
Very interesting. Thanks. I wish these mysteries were understood by us. Perhaps some day they will be.

Well just keep trying to tear down the everyday taboos that people throw up as walls.
Just like with global climate change...it has become increasingly clear that our representatives are not going to do it.
Pulling out of the Paris accord...it was non-binding firstly.
But we have seen several state governors who have stepped up and committed that their state would abide by it, like CA.
We the people are the decision makers....for too long people have been apathetic wallflowers who not only think voting is useless, they spread they opinion and its disseminated into society where it festers.
Yes...it seems pointless sometimes...but when I vote it is mostly for the other people...like Congress and state amendments that affect my like.
Anyhow, tangent....sorry.
Lol
 
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