President Donald Trump

88chaz88 said:
Two countries that, coincidentally I'm sure, are exempt from Trump's Muslim ban.
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Ban all the bad people!!!! (except the ones that pay me)

Hmm. Not a bad idea for the forum either :)
 
Wyote said:
:m146:
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Refugees are covered by the UN. I don't think the US can actually refuse a refugee, if they meet the UN criteria. We had that problem here in Australia. The only way to keep them out was to prevent them from arriving here.
 
Flavus Aquila said:
Refugees are covered by the UN. I don't think the US can actually refuse a refugee, if they meet the UN criteria.
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It's funny because the right thinks everyone is allowed in if they can sign an x, and the left thinks the process is rigorous enough (wants to allow everyone who can sign an x in). The reality is perhaps somewhere in the middle and it's a good idea to examine and refine the process regularly.
 
Wyote said:
It's funny because the right thinks everyone is allowed in if they can sign an x, and the left thinks the process is rigorous enough (wants to allow everyone who can sign an x in). The reality is perhaps somewhere in the middle and it's a good idea to examine and refine the process regularly.
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It's a difficult area to deal with because people can show up without paperwork and make whatever story they wish. In Europe there have been cases of refugees denouncing other refugees as known ISIS members.

Here they're looking at temporary visas, which will see the asylum seeker returned to their country when hostilities cease.

Ideally, I would prefer that refugees be taken by adjacent countries, and subsidised by the member countries of the UN. At present, virtually none of the Arabic countries have accepted Syrian refugees.
 
Wyote said:
One of the actual real problems
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They know something we won't acknowledge. There's huge areas of Syria which have seen no conflict, and aren't in danger. Most of the so-called refugees are economic migrants, opportunistically riding the sympathy wave.
 
Flavus Aquila said:
Most of the so-called refugees are economic migrants, opportunistically riding the sympathy wave.
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I don't know enough to agree or reject this but I'll try to look into it. Thanks.
 
Wyote said:
But really, the slogan doesn't even say anything about Drumpf directly. They are three separate statements :)

It's not my fault you got all Gestalt about it.
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It's very well done. I'll give you that. I see it for what it is though and simply call you out on it.
 
acd said:
You did not comment on chaz's mention of Trump adding white nationalist Steve Bannon to the National Security Council. You've mentioned before that you don't believe Trump is an ideologue. How would you defend that, now? Maybe he isn't. Maybe he is stupid and doesn't know any better?
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The only thing I can find linking Bannon to being A white nationalist is that he has spoken with people who identify as white nationalists. Speaking with a priest does not make you a priest. So, what other proof do you have to provide that Bannon is in fact what you are accusing him of being?
 
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Eventhorizon said:
The only thing I can find linking Bannon to being A white nationalist is that he has spoken with people who identify as white nationalists. Speaking with a priest does not make you a priest. So, what other proof do you have to provide that Bannon is in fact what you are accusing him of being?
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www.breitbart.com
 
Forget the hysterical mainstream media -- America likes Trump’s agenda, including his immigration pivot

By Liz Peek

Published January 30, 2017

Poll shows Americans support Trump's refugee ban

In its hysteria-driven coverage of President Trump’s immigration order, the mainstream media forgot to mention this: most of the country supports it.


A recent Quinnipiac poll indicated that 48 percent of the nation approves of "suspending immigration from terror prone regions, even if it means turning away refugees," while 42 percent oppose such a measure.

In contrast, Americans did not agree with Obama’s decision to open the door to more Syrian refugees; at the end of 2015, a Quinnipiac poll revealed that 51 percent of the country stood against the move, while only 43 percent supported it.

There is the problem for Democrats -- even as they rant and rave over Donald Trump’s assault on the progressive values of the elite establishment, consumer confidence has soared to 12-year highs.

How can that be? Here’s the key, which the mainstream media has ignored for eight years: President Obama was personally popular, but his policies were not. Conversely, President Trump personally scores low approval ratings, but he is pushing an agenda that has the support of most Americans.
 
Eventhorizon said:
If you are going to continue to post tripe like This, I am going to start responding to you in nothing but monkeys.
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What? Finally seeing my perspective are you... :m146:
 
Eventhorizon said:
If you are going to continue to post tripe like This, I am going to start responding to you in nothing but monkeys.
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I think that's a very low impact strategy.

How about this approach:
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