Why would we diminish something that is true, good, bad, or otherwise? Our lack of humble is balanced by our lack of shame. We have no trouble admitting when we are awesome and when we suck.
I don't personally relate to Vicky Jo at all. It's difficult to imagine we have the same personality type. I'm more in my head and analytical, and then when emotional or social I'm sillier, but still in a quiet private way.
I've wondered if I'm INTJ, but people typically think I'm not because I am too invested in how people feel. I can't say myself. As a child I started organizing my blocks before I could talk which might be a Te thing. When I was 13 I had trouble finding friends because I mostly wanted to talk about astronomy. I knew quite a bit about Mars for a kid, knew all the geography of the moon, and the basic layout of the known universe. That's what I wanted to think and talk about rather than social things or make-up.
When I see the dichotomy between "efficient planning" vs. "connections with people", I have to admit that one of my areas of focus involves "efficiently connecting to other people". Ha. I value interaction and growth, but like to keep it simple and productive when a connection is made. I wondered if there was an INFJ parallel to INTJ efficient systems with my drive for the least resistance in human relationships. I think using empathy, fully understanding others, picking my battles, choosing expressions of warmth that simplify things reducing tensions, are all ways to increase emotional and relational "efficiency" of sorts. In posts I tend to relate to INFJ and INTJ thinking about equally - at least with posters in my general age range.
imo INTJs are more difficult to console than INFJs, because their standards are very high -- and they easily see what other people are doing wrong, even if they don't always express it. INFJs are more live and let live... (am I wrong?)
also, it's very hard to make an INTJ cry. that's been my experience, they are usually very confident and stoic. An INTJ crying is a horrible sight, because you know they've reached their absolute breaking point to allow themselves to give in to tears (esp. in public).
imo INTJs are more difficult to console than INFJs, because their standards are very high -- and they easily see what other people are doing wrong, even if they don't always express it. INFJs are more live and let live... (am I wrong?)
also, it's very hard to make an INTJ cry. that's been my experience, they are usually very confident and stoic. An INTJ crying is a horrible sight, because you know they've reached their absolute breaking point to allow themselves to give in to tears (esp. in public).
imo INTJs are more difficult to console than INFJs, because their standards are very high -- and they easily see what other people are doing wrong, even if they don't always express it. INFJs are more live and let live... (am I wrong?)
also, it's very hard to make an INTJ cry. that's been my experience, they are usually very confident and stoic. An INTJ crying is a horrible sight, because you know they've reached their absolute breaking point to allow themselves to give in to tears (esp. in public).
I think May's distinctions are good ones. If I see my wife cry I know we have reached rock bottom.
edit: I think my initial judgements here were too harsh:
In my experience, INTJs need more cues to understand things from someone else's perspective. Sometimes I have to walk my wife through why our kids would be feeling the way they are. But on the other hand, my INTJ wife seems to have a knack for planning and organizing when trouble is brewing as well as to celebrate. I like to do this as well, but not nearly to the extent she does. I think you just have to stand next to an INTJ for a while to see how much further they can take this.
That's interesting- I am an INFJ but overtime I have become more introverted and I test as more of a borderline F/T. I think that presenting myself as an INTJ is more of a defense mechanism for me (?), though there are certain situations where I favor logic over feeling. This doesn't happen very often though and sometimes I appreciate logic because of its philosophical meaning... is this something anyone else does?
Sounds like you got yourself a sweet working Ti.I don't personally relate to Vicky Jo at all. It's difficult to imagine we have the same personality type. I'm more in my head and analytical, and then when emotional or social I'm sillier, but still in a quiet private way.
I've wondered if I'm INTJ, but people typically think I'm not because I am too invested in how people feel. I can't say myself. As a child I started organizing my blocks before I could talk which might be a Te thing. When I was 13 I had trouble finding friends because I mostly wanted to talk about astronomy. I knew quite a bit about Mars for a kid, knew all the geography of the moon, and the basic layout of the known universe. That's what I wanted to think and talk about rather than social things or make-up.
When I see the dichotomy between "efficient planning" vs. "connections with people", I have to admit that one of my areas of focus involves "efficiently connecting to other people". Ha. I value interaction and growth, but like to keep it simple and productive when a connection is made. I wondered if there was an INFJ parallel to INTJ efficient systems with my drive for the least resistance in human relationships. I think using empathy, fully understanding others, picking my battles, choosing expressions of warmth that simplify things reducing tensions, are all ways to increase emotional and relational "efficiency" of sorts. In posts I tend to relate to INFJ and INTJ thinking about equally - at least with posters in my general age range.
Sounds like you got yourself a sweet working Ti.
I'm glad you are not like Vickey Jo, that woman gives me the creeps, with her fake cobra lady smile...
She has a really weird way of using her Fe, it is just not genuine. Maybe it is just my Fe inferior, I get suspicious of people when they are trying to charm me.ha, though her info is helpful, i think she is very different than most INFJs. at least, i think that's what my Ni/Fi tells me![]()