The Minimal Facts for the Resurrection of Christ.

[Misty]

I'm offended that you even think these are "sinful" lifestyles. That's the problem here. I find even the idea of thinking of these people and their lives as sinful nauseating and repugnant. "Force such a person?" Because of their gender? Why would I want to enter that house anyway? No thank you, it sounds like the one who owns it is an asshole.

I was speaking of many sins. I did not say gender once in this thread. But sure - if you think the owner of Heaven and Earth is a big ole meanie, then keep up this way.

I’m sure there’s a false social justice warrior God somewhere in outer space waiting for you with open arms and butt.

 

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I was speaking of many sins. I did not say gender once in this thread. But sure - if you think the owner of Heaven and Earth is a big ole meanie, then keep up this way.

I’m sure there’s a social justice warrior God somewhere in outer space dressed like a woman, waiting for you with open arms and butt.

It doesn't matter if you haven't said it in this thread, because you've said it over and over again, all across the forum. Are you playing dumb or something? You're the one saying the owner is a "meanie" - because you're the one saying the owner holds these views, not me. I am pointing out that condemning someone to hell for not believing is just as tyrannical as doing it because of their gender.

 

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Tl; dr ~ I don't reject all gods, I reject your personal god you have crafted in your mind.

 

[Fruiteloop]

I don't assume people's view unless I have some KNOWLEDGE about the PoV they are coming from. Maybe you were not here for that conversation. IDK.

However, you made many assertions about me that are plainly false. I'm simply not interested in "debunking" all these things you said about me. It's not important to me to fight for myself. What IS important for me to fight for is the ideas and logic I make a case for (that I feel strongly about, which not every issue IS that important to me, so you will not really see me talk about them much). But I suppose you will still say I am being "prideful" because I happen to make strong claims and am so strong about them even though the "me" in this conversation simply isn't important to me.

You simply cannot know people.

That is a true assertion.

we can play games if you want

Why is it that my dad did x to me and why does it still hurt.

You are not God.

People reject God because what games you think this is.

 

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You simply cannot know people.

That is a true assertion.

we can play games if you want

Why is it that my dad did x to me and why does it still hurt.

You are not God.

People reject God because what games you think this is.

I'd love to talk to you in person some time, so you can see a different side of me because I don't think you understand me very well as is.

 

[Misty]

I'm not blaming god. I'm not blaming your religion. I'm blaming you as an individual and how you misuse your faith. That's what people don't seem to understand. They don't seem to get that I have never had issues with any Christians here before. That I only responded and mentioned anything about religion at all when I was presented with certain beliefs. Not a word from me before that, before you showed up in my blog. I wonder why a bad taste might have been left in my mouth, if there is one?

It's not your religion, it's what you choose to do with your religion. That trans thread looks a lot like doing evil in his name, but you'll never be able to see that. You don't seem to grasp that a loving god wouldn't punish his children to eternal damnation for such a thing. That your beliefs are contrary to the god you follow. The image you paint of god is that of a tyrant.

We don’t read the same bible then, clearly.

Mllions of people who follow the Christian faith, Catholics as well, Lutherans, Babtists, you name it.. I assure you they also believe these things are sexual sins, exactly as it states in plain English in the book of Mathew and many other places in the very same bible each of those faiths FOLLOW.

If you think this makes God unloving and makes those who believe in his commands evil, then so be it.

 

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Seriously tho, your god sounds like a total dick. Other people have much nicer gods. Might wanna work on that.

"A benevolent, loving god would not sentence people to eternal torment for characteristics like gender or sexual orientation, nor for failing to believe in a specific way. From this perspective, the idea of a 'sadistic' hell is viewed as a contradiction to the concept of a loving deity."

 

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We don’t read the same bible then, clearly.

Mllions of people who follow the Christian faith, Catholics as well, Lutherans, Babtists, you name it.. I assure you they also believe these things are sexual sins, exactly as it states in plain English in the book of Mathew and many other places in the very same bible each of those faiths FOLLOW.

If you think this makes God unloving and makes those who believe in his commands evil, then so be it.

It's actually out of love that God gives us these commands. People are so wrapped up in the current 21st century talking points that they act like they are clueless that for the majority of human history, these things like homosexuality were treated with disdain, let alone celebrated.

In the end, God commands against such things because He knows what is best for humanity to flourish.

 

[Misty]

It doesn't matter if you haven't said it in this thread, because you've said it over and over again, all across the forum. Are you playing dumb or something? You're the one saying the owner is a "meanie" - because you're the one saying the owner holds these views, not me. I am pointing out that condemning someone to hell for not believing is just as tyrannical as doing it because of their gender.

I am not condemning them. I am not making the rules, God is. The God of the bible. Can you not read? These are Gods commands for how we are expected to live, set forth in the same bible in plain English that millions of people follow and interpret just as I do.

If my faith is imaginary then so is the faith of millions, from Catholics to Christians. You’re hilarious.

Do you think I fear you or something? Or that I fear speaking on my beliefs on such things? Clearly not.

 

[Fruiteloop]

I never push people into things they know are not true about themselves.

I never say anything about why a person does what they do and then say because of it that is what they disbelieve.

You think I said you were prideful but I used the term in general people like you - is that any better or worse than what you do?

You disbelieve in God because at age 7 you gave another kid a blow job.

That is what I am expect you to say when you say you know where I am coming from.

The lack of awareness would be totally small.

No one has the social intelligence to understand another person at such a deep level to say why or why not then believe in God.

 

[Misty]

It's actually out of love that God gives us these commands. People are so wrapped up in the current 21st century talking points that they act like they are clueless that for the majority of human history, these things like homosexuality were treated with disdain, let alone celebrated.

In the end, God commands against such things because He knows what is best for humanity to flourish.

Yep. Just like I would tell my little boy not to play with fire or do drugs or whatever. It might be thrilling satisfying an urge for a moment but the possible consequences and outcomes are less than desirable. This doesn’t make me an asshole. It means I love him.

 

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I never push people into things they know are not true about themselves.

I never say anything about why a person does what they do and then say because of it that is what they disbelieve.

You think I said you were prideful but I used the term in general people like you - is that any better or worse than what you do?

You disbelieve in God because at age 7 you gave another kid a blow job.

That is what I am expect you to say when you say you know where I am coming from.

The lack of awareness would be totally small.

No one has the social intelligence to understand another person at such a deep level to say why or why not then believe in God.

I'm sorry, are you addressing me when you say this?

 

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Tl; dr ~ I don't reject all gods, I reject your personal god you have crafted in your mind.

My God is not the God I crafted in my own mind. It's what we read about in the Bible. Rather, making a god which doesn't demand anything of you and is kinda like this religion and a little like that religion is a god that ends up looking a lot like the person coming up with that god in the first place. Not only does this pollute who God is by robbing Him of his pure nature, but it also ends up being a god "you have crafted in your own mind."

 

[Misty]

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Seriously tho, your god sounds like a total dick. Other people have much nicer gods. Might wanna work on that.

"A benevolent, loving god would not sentence people to eternal torment for characteristics like gender or sexual orientation, nor for failing to believe in a specific way. From this perspective, the idea of a 'sadistic' hell is viewed as a contradiction to the concept of a loving deity."

I follow the Bible, not chat GPT. May wanna try that if you actually care for your own soul. There’s definitely a lot more wisdom there. It’s pretty wild using AI as a bible, but do ur thing.

 

[Fruiteloop]

I'm sorry, are you addressing me when you say this?

Sorry,

People simply cannot know why other do what they do.

 

[Fruiteloop]

Daddy spanked you too hard when little.

That is why you do not believe in the 5 or whatever number of minimum facts of resurrection.

so easy a caveman can do it (caveman says not cool bro)

once you go for the reason behind why other do what they do you lost 100%

 

[QuickTwist]

Sorry,

People simply cannot know why other do what they do.

I know you didn't ask this, but I wanted to share this with you so you can see how I dialog with other people in more of a IRL setting. I was on this podcast. This is more or less what I am like IRL. You can make any judgment you want about me after listening to this, but I'm just sharing it so you see what I am actually like.

 

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Do you think I fear you or something? Or that I fear speaking on my beliefs on such things? Clearly not.

Why would I think that you fear me? I've never gotten that impression. Like what, did I think that the butts would scare you away?

So this, are you denying that it's correct? Does it sound wrong to you?

"A benevolent, loving god would not sentence people to eternal torment for characteristics like gender or sexual orientation, nor for failing to believe in a specific way. From this perspective, the idea of a 'sadistic' hell is viewed as a contradiction to the concept of a loving deity."

Because it sounds right to me. Your beliefs are in contradiction to the god you follow. And they are all personal gods. Everyone's god is different, even if you're a Christian. Not everyone holds your beliefs.

And yes, "millions of people" can be wrong. Millions of people are wrong all the time. 1.2 billion people follow Hinduism. Since so many people believe it, obviously they must be right. They can't all be wrong. Except it's possible that everyone on this planet has it wrong, and it is arrogant to so rigidly believe you know the answer.

 

[Misty]

Why would I think that you fear me? I've never gotten that impression. Like what, did I think that the butts would scare you away?

So this, are you denying that it's correct? Does it sound wrong to you?

"A benevolent, loving god would not sentence people to eternal torment for characteristics like gender or sexual orientation, nor for failing to believe in a specific way. From this perspective, the idea of a 'sadistic' hell is viewed as a contradiction to the concept of a loving deity."

Because it sounds right to me. Your beliefs are in contradiction to the god you follow. And they are all personal gods. Everyone's god is different, even if you're a Christian. Not everyone holds your beliefs.

And yes, "millions of people" can be wrong. Millions of people are wrong all the time. 1.2 billion people follow Hinduism. Since so many people believe it, obviously they must be right. They can't all be wrong. Except it's possible that everyone on this planet has it wrong, and it is arrogant to so rigidly believe you know the answer.

I said that millions of people across many faiths believe what I do, and this is correct yes. They do. And if I was the only one left on earth who believed the plainly worded commands in the bible, I would.

Stop twisting my words and putting your spin of my faith onto me.

It is not arrogant to have “rigid” belief in God and the bible. I don’t know the answers. God does. What I mean is that the bible is there to learn from for me and many others of many faiths.

If you want to think me arrogant, I do not care. Unbothered. I am happy in my life and having quite a lovely month of May, actually.

I fell asleep with a huge smile last night, under the beautiful moon and the ancient stars, and am feeling completely blessed for all that God has given me in this life.

I am not going to allow any of your outrage or vitriol to spoil my joy either. So think what you want, enjoy!

 

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I fell asleep with a huge smile last night, under the beautiful moon and the ancient stars, and am feeling completely blessed for all that God has given me in this life.

Oh that's lovely, by the way. I genuinely mean that. Despite all the conflict, it still made me smile. If nothing else we know is true, at least the moon and stars will still shine for us on a dark night.