There is an Alternative to Capitalism

Here's a picture of Warren Buffet landing on the lawn of Waddesdon house, a home of Lord jacob rothschild in england. He is flanked by jacob and...yes the governor of california Arnold Sachwarzenegger!

That's right...those guys go to see the rothcshilds not the other way around:

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Here's some interesting quotes that i think clearly explain from people in the know who really runs the US and the UK and Israel:

[FONT=&quot]"All the perplexities, confusions, and distresses in America arise, not from defects in the Constitution or confederation, not from want of honor or virtue, as much as from downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit, and circulation." - John Quincy Adams

"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war. God grant that my suspicions may prove groundless." - Abraham Lincoln, from a November 21, 1864 letter to Colonel William F. Elkins

"Banks create credit. It is a mistake to suppose that bank credit is created to any extent by the deposit of money into the banks. A loan made by a bank is a clear addition to the amount of money in the community." - Encyclopedia Britannica, 14th Edition

"Banking was conceived in iniquity and born in sin. Bankers own the Earth. Take it away from them but leave them the power to create money, and, with the flick of a pen, they will create enough money to buy it back again. Take this great power away from them and all great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for then this would be a better and happier world to live in. But, if you want to continue to be the slave of the bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let the bankers continue to create money and control credit." - Sir Josiah Stamp, President, Bank of England (2nd richest man in England)

"But if in the pursuit of the means we should unfortunately stumble again on unfunded paper money or any similar species of fraud, we shall assuredly give a fatal stab to our national credit in its infancy. Paper money will invariably operate in the body of politics as spirit liquors on the human body. They prey on the vitals and ultimately destroy them. Paper money has had the effect in your state that it will ever have, to ruin commerce, oppress the honest, and open the door to every species of fraud and injustice." , George Washington in a letter to Jabez Bowen, Rhode Island, Jan. 9, 1787

"By this means government may secretly and unobserved, confiscate the wealth of the people, and not one man in a million will detect the theft." - Lord John Maynard Keynes, "Economic Consequences of Peace"

"Capital must protect itself in every way. Debts must be collected, mortgages foreclosed as rapidly as possible. When through the process of law the common people lose their homes, they will become more docile and more easily governed through the strong arm of government applied by a central power of wealth under leading financiers. People without homes will not quarrel with their leaders. This is well known among our principal men now engaged in forming an imperialism of capitalism to govern the world. By dividing the people we can get them to expend their energies in fighting over questions of no importance to us except as teachers of the common herd. It is thus by discreet action we can secure for ourselves that which has been so well planned and so successfully accomplished." - U.S. Banker's Association Magazine, 1924

"Congress [not private banks] shall have the power to coin money and regulate the value thereof." - Article 1 of the U.S. Constitution.

Congressman Patman: "Mr. Eccles, how did you get the money to buy those two billions of government securities?" Eccles: "We created it." Patman: "Out of what?" Eccles: "Out of the right to issue credit money." - Testimony of Marriner Eccles, Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board, before the House Banking and Currency Committee, 1941

"Every circulating Federal Reserve Note represents in actuality a one dollar debt to the Federal Reserve system." - Money Facts, House Banking and Currency Committee

"Every Congressman, every Senator knows precisely what causes inflation…but can't, won't support the drastic reforms to repeal of the Federal Reserve Act because it could cost him his job." - Robert A. Heinlein, Expanded Universe

"Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal its powers, but the truth is that the Federal Reserve System has usurped the government. It controls everything in congress and it controls all our foreign relations. It makes and breaks governments at will." - Louis McFadden, Chairman of the House Committee on Banking and Currency

"For a long time I felt that FDR had developed many thoughts and ideas that were his own to benefit this country, the United States. But he didn't. Most of his thoughts were carefully manufactured for him in advance by the Council on Foreign Relations One World Money Group. The United Nations is but a long range, international banking apparatus clearly set up for financial and economic profit by a small group of powerful One-World revolutionaries, hungry for profit and power. The One-World government leaders and their ever close bankers have now acquired full control of the money and credit machinery of the U.S. via the creation of the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank." - Curtis Dall, Son-in-Law of F.D.R., 1936

"For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." - David Rockefeller, Memoirs, 2002

"History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance." - James Madison

"I am afraid that ordinary citizens will not like to be told that the banks can, and do, create and destroy money; and they who control the credit of the nation direct the policy of governments and hold in the hollow of their hands the destiny of the people." - R. McKenna, Chairman, Midland Bank London

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power of money should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." - Thomas Jefferson

"I have never seen more Senators express discontent with their jobs. I think the major cause is that, deep down in our hearts, we have been accomplices in doing something terrible and unforgivable to our wonderful country. Deep down in our heart, we know that we have given our children a legacy of bankruptcy. We have defrauded our country to get ourselves elected." - John Danforth

"I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by it's system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the world… no longer a government of free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men." - Woodrow Wilson

"If all the bank loans were paid up, no one would have a bank deposit, and there would not be a dollar of currency or coin in circulation. This is a staggering thought. We are completely dependent on the commercial banks for our money. Someone has to borrow every dollar we have in circulation, cash or credit. If the banks create ample synthetic money, we are prosperous; if not, we starve. We are absolutely without a permanent money system. When one gets a complete grasp upon the picture, the tragic absurdity of our hopeless position is almost incredible - but there it is. It is the most important subject intelligent persons can investigate and reflect upon. It is so important that our present civilization may collapse unless it is widely understood and the defects remedied very soon." - Robert H. Hemphill, Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta

"If Congress has the right to issue paper money currency, it was given to them to be used by the government and not to be delegated to individuals or corporations." - President Andrew Jackson, Vetoed Bank Bill of 1836

"If ever again our nation stumbles upon unfunded paper, it shall surely be like death to our body politic. This country will crash." - George Washington

"If that mischievous financial policy which had its origin in the North American Republic [debt-free money] should become indurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without a debt to the International Bankers. It will have all the money necessary to carry on its commerce. It will become prosperous beyond precedent in the history of the civilized governments of the world. The brains and wealth of all countries will go to North America. That government must be destroyed or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe!" - Times of London newspaper, 1865

"If the people were to ever find out what we have done, we would be chased down the streets and lynched." - George H.W. Bush to White House reporter Sarah McClendon, 1992

"If two parties, instead of being a bank and an individual, were an individual and an individual, they could not inflate the circulating medium by a loan transaction, for the simple reason that the lender could not lend what he didn't have, as banks can do. Only commercial banks and trust companies can lend money that they manufacture by lending it." - Professor Irving Fisher, Yale University, in his book "100% Money"

"If you don't read the newspaper, you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper, you are misinformed." - Mark Twain

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie." - Joseph Goebbels

"If you want to make someone angry tell him a lie; if you want to make him furious, tell him the truth. All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed , second it is violently opposed, and third it is accepted as self-evident." - Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher, 1788-1860

"In the absence of the gold standard, there is no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation. There is no safe store of value. If there were, the government would have to make its holding illegal, as was done in the case of gold. The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. This is the shabby secret of the welfare statists' tirades against gold. Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the 'hidden' confiscation of wealth. Gold stands in the way of this insidious process. It stands as a protector of property rights." - Alan Greenspan, Gold and Economic Freedom

"It does not take a majority to prevail… but rather an irate tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." - Founding Patriot Samuel Adams

"The one aim of these financiers is world control by the creation of inextinguishable debts." - Henry Ford

"It may appear that what goes on is happenstance, but the government most surely has planned it." - Franklin Roosevelt

"Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you."
- Pericles, 430 B.C.)

"Most Americans have no real understanding of the operation of the international money lenders. The accounts of the Federal Reserve System have never been audited. It operates outside the control of Congress and manipulates the credit of the United States." , Sen. Barry Goldwater (Rep. AR)

"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England… nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament , or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All we have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." - Herman Goering, Nuremberg Trials

"Neither paper currency nor deposits have value as commodities, intrinsically, a 'dollar' bill is just a piece of paper. Deposits are merely book entries." - Modern Money Mechanics Workbook, Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, 1975

"One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It is simply too painful to acknowledge - even to ourselves - that we've been so credulous." - Carl Sagan

"Only the small secrets need to be protected. The big ones are kept secret by public incredulity." - Marshall McLuhan

"Our goal is gradually to absorb the wealth of the world." - Cecil Rhodes, "The secret banking cabal"

"Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation and I care not who makes the laws." Mayer Amschel Rothschild, founder of the Rothschild international Banking Dynasty, 1790

"Power concedes nothing without demand." - Frederick Douglass

"See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them; and gives it to persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen cannot do without committing a crime. Then abolish this law without delay, for it is not only an evil in itself, but also is a fertile source for further evils, for it invites reprisals. If such a law is not abolished immediately, it will spread, multiply and develop into a system." - Frederic Bastiat

"Should government refrain from regulation and taxation, the worthlessness of the money becomes apparent and the fraud can no longer be concealed." - Lord John Maynard Keynes, "The Economic Consequences of Peace"

"Some people think the Federal Reserve Banks are the United States government's institutions. They are not government institutions. They are private credit monopolies which prey upon the people of the United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign swindlers." - Congressional Record 12595-12603 June 10, 1932

"The bold effort the Second National Bank of the U.S. had made to control government and the distress it has wantonly produced are but premonitions of the fate that awaits the American people should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this institution or the establishment of another like it." - Andrew Jackson

"The business of the journalist is to destroy the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it and I know it, so what folly is this toasting an independent press? We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. They pull the strings and we dance." - John Swinton, New York Times Chief of Staff

"The central bank is an institution of the most deadly hostility existing against the principles and form of our Constitution. I am an enemy to all banks discounting bills or notes for anything but coin. If the American people allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." - Thomas Jefferson.

"The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases." - Thomas Jefferson

"The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government, all under their control. Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent." - Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976

"The entire banking movement, at all crucial stages, was centralized in the hands of a few men who for years were linked, ideologically and personally, with one another." - Gabriel Kolko

"The eyes of our citizens are not sufficiently open to the true cause of our distress. They ascribe them to everything but their true cause, the banking system; a system which if it could do good in any form is yet so certain of leading to abuse as to be utterly incompatible with the public safety and prosperity. The Central Bank is an institution of the most deadly hostility existing against the principles and form of our Constitution." - Thomas Jefferson

"The Federal Reserve Act as it stands seems to me to open the way to a vast inflation of the currency. I do not like to think that any law can be passed that will make it possible to submerge the gold standard in a flood of irredeemable paper currency." - Henry Cabot Lodge Sr., 1913

"The Federal Reserve Banks are not federal instrumentalities." - Lewis vs. United States 9th Circuit 1992

"The Federal Reserve banks are one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever seen. There is not a man within the sound of my voice who does not know that this nation is run by the International bankers." - Congressman Louis T. McFadden (Rep. Pa)

"The Federal Reserve bank buys government bonds without one penny…" , Congressman Wright Patman, Congressional Record, Sept 30, 1941

"The few who understand the system, will either be so interested in its profits, or so dependent on it's favors, that there will be no opposition from either class." - Rothschild Brothers of London, 1863

"The financial system has been turned over to the Federal Reserve Board. That board administers a finance system by authority of a purely profiteering group. That system is private, conducted for the sole purpose of obtaining the greatest possible profits from the use of other people's money. This (Federal Reserve) Act establishes the most gigantic trust on Earth. When the president signs this bill, the invisible governments by the monetary power will be legalized. The people may not know it immediately but the day of reckoning is only a few years removed, the worst legislatives crime of the ages perpetrated by this banking bill." - Charles A. Lindbergh, Representative, MN

"The Government should create, issue, and circulate all the currency and credits needed to satisfy the spending power of the Government and the buying power of consumers. By the adoption of these principles, the taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest. Money will cease to be master and become the servant of humanity." - Abraham Lincoln

"The great mass of people will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one. What luck for rulers that men do not think." - Adolf Hitler

"The high office of President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the American's freedom, and before I leave office I must inform the citizen of his plight. We are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence…" - John F. Kennedy at Columbia University, 1963

"The Illuminati bankers rule the world through debt, which is money they create out of nothing. They need world government to ensure no country defaults or tries to overthrow them. As long as private bankers, instead of governments, create money the human race is doomed. These bankers and their allies have bought everything and everyone." - Henry Makow

"The increase in the assets of the Federal Reserve banks from 143 million dollars in 1913 to 45 billion dollars in 1949 went directly to the private stockholders of the [federal reserve] banks." - Eustace Mullins

"The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the People vs. The Banks." - Lord Acton, Lord Chief Justice of England, 1875

"The modern banking system manufactures money out of nothing. The process is perhaps the most astounding piece of sleight of hand that was ever invented." - Major L.B.Angus

"The real menace of our republic is this invisible government, which, like a giant octopus, sprawls its slimy length over city, state, and nation. Like the octopus of real life, it operates under cover of a self created screen. At the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller Standard Oil interests and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as international bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both political parties." - John F. Hylan, New York City Mayor, 1922.

"The regional Federal Reserve banks are not government agencies. …but are independent, privately owned and locally controlled corporations." , Lewis vs. United States, 680 F. 2d 1239 9th Circuit 1982

"The study of money, above all other fields in economics, is one in which complexity is used to disguise truth or to evade truth, not to reveal it." - John Kenneth Galbraith, in his book "Money: Whence It Came, Where It Went", 1975

"The surest way to overthrow an existing social order is to debauch the currency." - Lenin

"The Trilateral Commission is international and is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States. The Trilateral Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of power: Political, Monetary, Intellectual, and Ecclesiastical." - Barry Goldwater , U.S. Senator

"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H. L. Menken

"This Federal Reserve Act establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President Wilson signs this bill, the invisible government of the monetary power will be legalized. The worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency bill." - Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr. , 1913

"This truth is well known among our principal men now engaged in forming an imperialism of Capital to govern the world. By dividing the voters through the political party system, we can get them to expend their energies in fighting over questions of no importance. Thus by discreet action we can secure for ourselves what has been so well planned and so successfully accomplished." - Sir Denison Miller

"The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes." - Benjamin Disraeli, First Prime Minister of Britain

"There is no more direct way to capture control of a nation than through its credit and money system." - Phillip A. Benson, President of American Bankers' Association, 1939

"They must find it difficult… those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority."

"They who have put out the people's eyes reproach them of their blindness." - John Milton

"The actual process of money creation takes place primarily in banks. Bankers discovered that they could make loans merely by giving their promise to pay, or bank notes, to borrowers. In this way banks began to create money. Transaction deposits are the modern counterpart of bank notes. It was a small step from printing notes to making book entries crediting deposits of borrowers, which the borrowers in turn could 'spend' by writing checks, thereby 'printing' their own money." - Modern Money Mechanics, Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago.

"The Federal Reserve is answerable to no one." - Ronald Reagan

"The Great Depression was not accidental, it was a carefully contrived occurrence. The international Bankers sought to bring about a condition of despair here so that they might emerge as rulers of us all." - Louis McFadden

"The only thing that is necessary for evil to triumph is for men of good will to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace in a continual state of alarm (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing them with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." - H. L. Mencken

"The youth who can solve the money question will do more for the world than all the professional soldiers of history." - Henry Ford Sr.

"There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." - Henry David Thoreau

"There are two methods, or means and only two, whereby man's needs and desires can be satisfied. One is the production and exchange of wealth; this is the economic means. The other is the uncompensated appropriation of wealth produced by others; this is the banking and political means." - Albert Jay Nock

"To expose a 15 Trillion dollar ripoff of the American people by the stockholders of the 1000 largest corporations over the last 100 years will be a tall order of business." , Buckminster Fuller

"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government." Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991

"Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools that don't have brains enough to be honest." - Benjamin Franklin

"Very soon every American will be required to register their biological property in a national system designed to keep track of the people and that will operate under the ancient system of pledging. By such methodology, we can compel people to submit to our agenda, which will affect our security as a charge back for our fiat paper currency. Every American will be forced to register or suffer being able to work and earn a living. They will be our chattels (property) and we will hold the security interest over them forever, by operation of the law merchant under the scheme of secured transactions. Americans, by unknowingly or unwittingly delivering the bills of lading (Birth Certificate) to us will be rendered bankrupt and insolvent, secured by their pledges. They will be stripped of their rights and given a commercial value designed to make us a profit and they will be none the wiser, for not one man in a million could ever figure our plans and, if by accident one or two should figure it out, we have in our arsenal plausible deniability. After all, this is the only logical way to fund government, by floating liens and debts to the registrants in the form of benefits and privileges. This will inevitably reap us huge profit beyond our wildest expectations and leave every American a contributor to this fraud, which we will call 'Social Insurance'. Without realizing it, every American will unknowingly be our servant, however begrudgingly. The people will become helpless and without any hope for their redemption and we will employ the high office (presidency) of our dummy corporation (USA) to foment this plot against America." - Colonel Edward Mandel House

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries." - David Rockefeller, Trilateral Commission Founder, 1991

"We are now permitted to own gold again only because the intention is to force the Canadian/American people onto a strict gold standard while we do not have enough gold to permit this system to operate even marginally. Forcing us onto a gold standard, under the guise of our 'proven' inability to manage debt, will complete the destruction of the middle class and finish our subjection to the International Bankers and the UN." - Howard Freeman.

"We are on the verge of a Global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order." - David Rockefeller to the United Nations Business Council on September 23, 1994

"We contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle." - Winston Churchill

"We fix the price of gold and silver to make them valuable or not." - J. P. Morgan, in a letter to his son

"We have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks. They are not government institutions. They are private monopolies which prey upon the people of these United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers. This evil institution has impoverished the people of the United States and has practically bankrupted our government, and it has done this through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it." - Senator Louis T. McFadden, Chairman US Banking & Currency Commission

"The principle we must keep in mind is that two people cannot both be the exclusive owner of the same thing at the same time. Yet fractional reserve banking operates on the theory that bank account holder A and borrower B can both own the same money at the same time. This practice is just as fraudulent as selling two buyers the same vacation home and giving them both exclusive title to the home and hoping that they don't both show up to use it the same weekend. With fractional reserve banking, titles to money (gold) are spuriously created, meaning there are more titles to property than there is actual property. In fact, no new money is created, but the number of titles to existing money is expanded. And it is in this manner that the value of the dollar is diminished. In the absence of a gold standard, the crime is exceeded today to the point of absurdity, as only titles themselves are traded with no tie to any real property whatsoever. We have been swindled." -

"We shall have world government whether or not you like it… the only question is whether or not it be by conquest or consent." - James Warburg, Rothschild Banking Agent, 1950

"When buying and selling are controlled by legislation, the first thing to be bought and sold are legislators." - P.J. O'Rourke

"When the people fear the government, there is Tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is Liberty." - Thomas Jefferson

"When you control opinion, as corporate America controls opinion in the United States by owning the media, you can make the masses believe almost anything you want, and guide them as you please." - Gore Vidal

"When you or I write a check there must be sufficient funds in our account to cover the check, but when the Federal Reserve writes a check there is no bank deposit on which that check is drawn. When the Federal Reserve writes a check, it is creating money." - "Putting it Simply", Boston Federal Reserve Bank

"You are a den of vipers and thieves. I intend to rout you out, and by the Eternal God, I will rout you out. If the American people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking system, there would be a revolution before morning." - Andrew Jackson

"In the U.S. today, we have in effect two governments. We have the duly constituted government, then we have an independent, uncontrolled and uncoordinated government in the Federal Reserve, operating the money powers which are reserved to congress by the Constitution." - Congressman Wright Patman

"Money is not based on gold anymore; money is only an idea. Ideas are not scarce. There should be no shortage of money to lubricate the gears of commerce any more than there should be a shortage of imagination. Today money is created on computers and paper, and since it is so easy to create, no one should have a right to charge interest on its creation. Yet, that is what the Federal Reserve System does - loans money to the people, charges interest on it, and puts the working public into debt just for being given permission to build for itself its own prosperity." -

"If you do nothing when you have a chance, is your plan to wait until there are no more chances to do something?" -

"If you're in a card game and you can't figure out who the patsy is, you're it." - Warren Buffett

"A tyrant is always stirring up some war or other, in order that the people may require a leader." - Plato, The Republic

"The ultimate ignorance is the rejection of something you know nothing about and refuse to investigate." - Dr. Wayne Dyer.

"Each progressive spirit is opposed by a thousand mediocre minds appointed to guard the past." - Maurice Maeterlinck.

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams

"What you can't imagine, you can't discover." - Albert Einstein

"There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him." - Robert Heinlein

"In times of universal deceit, speaking the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

"I find it hard to understand why those who demand Unitary Education by the State do not also demand a Unitary Press by the State… Either the State is infallible, in which case we could not do better than to submit to it the entire domain of intelligent thought, or it is not, in which case it is no more rational to hand over education to it than the press." - Frederic Bastiat

"A government big enough to give us everything we want is a government big enough to take from us everything we have." - President Gerald Ford

"Everything that needs to be said has already been said. But since no one was listening, everything must be said again." - Andre Gide

"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance or conscientious stupidity." - Martin Luther King Jr.

"I must study war and politics so that my children shall be free to study commerce, agriculture and other practicalities, so that their children can study painting, poetry and other fine things." - John Adams, U.S. President

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin, 1755

"A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." - Bertrand de Jouvenel

"If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. Of all the enemies to public liberty, war is perhaps the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. The loss of liberty at home is to be charged to the provisions against danger, real or imagined, from abroad." - James Madison

"He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will one day reach himself." - Thomas Paine [/FONT]
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"How is education supposed to make me feel smarter? Besides, every time I learn something new, it pushes some old stuff out of my brain."
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Here's an interesting article:

http://www.ibtimes.com/who-cares-ab...orkers-burned-death-apparently-not-you-942024

People won't pay more for socks made in worker-friendly conditions, even though of course they say that it's important to them.

One way of interpreting this is that capitalism is perverting people's decency, and that the emphasis on money (saving and spending) made them choose the sweatshop products.

Another way is to say that they should be able to control their impulses and buy the non-sweatshop socks, and that they're the ones responsible for perpetuating the oppression by making it unaffordable for businesses to conduct themselves morally.

Obviously, people want to believe that they're victims of capitalism because that means that deep down inside they're still good people-- but this wasn't a case of not being able to choose, or marketing-- they knew exactly what they were buying. This was a case of saving a small amount of money, or of buying something that looks nice, as opposed to making a morally sound decision.

It's kind of scary.
 
Here's an interesting article:

http://www.ibtimes.com/who-cares-ab...orkers-burned-death-apparently-not-you-942024

People won't pay more for socks made in worker-friendly conditions, even though of course they say that it's important to them.

One way of interpreting this is that capitalism is perverting people's decency, and that the emphasis on money (saving and spending) made them choose the sweatshop products.

Another way is to say that they should be able to control their impulses and buy the non-sweatshop socks, and that they're the ones responsible for perpetuating the oppression by making it unaffordable for businesses to conduct themselves morally.

Obviously, people want to believe that they're victims of capitalism because that means that deep down inside they're still good people-- but this wasn't a case of not being able to choose, or marketing-- they knew exactly what they were buying. This was a case of saving a small amount of money, or of buying something that looks nice, as opposed to making a morally sound decision.

It's kind of scary.

I think before going too far down the whole: are people culpable or are they just ignorant line i think its worth first taking a moment to consider who the people are who have created this survey and what their agenda is; i can guarantee you that a harvard business professor will be a part of the conspiracy otherwise he wouldn't have obtained that post

I think there are numerous acts of kindness by people everyday in situations that are right in front of them. By moving a lot of the indecent bahaviour offshore the corporations have certainly hidden a lot of the realities from people; and yes most people are just trying to scrape by in this demeaning system

here's a link to an article about research carried out by a team in switzerland that has proven that a small number of companies have a huge amount of control over the global economy: http://www.newscientist.com/article...e-capitalist-network-that-runs-the-world.html

I think the significance of this is that our society, our education system, our media and the perceptions of many people are being formed by this small number of corporations and the behaviours they want to encourage are as amoral as their own business practices (as evidenced in all the scandals in the news)

All we have to do Apone is ask ourselves whether we think they are creating a good world for everyone or whether they are creating a form of slavery in large parts of the world whilst placating the small number of 'westernised' people with comforts and distracting them from the pain of the rest of the world with countless sophisticated distractions
 
Muir-- maybe you do, but we're not talking about you we're talking about the majority.

Everyone has the power to force the corporations to behave more responsibly, but they choose the quick, easy fix. You could argue that it's the corporations' fault for offering people immorally produced products, but at the same time if you remove that decision then people will complain about the higher prices as well as the fact that they're not being given a choice. There is a sense of what it means to buy goods that are the product of exploitation, but there is no direct connection to the actual suffering of the people involved... we can't even be certain if they are suffering, and there's no real incentive to find out.

To be honest, I would fully support government initiative to remove the choice and force people to buy goods produced in ethically and morally sound environments... and apply that to everything-- vehicles, clothes, electronics. The problem isn't that we aren't free to make our own decisions, the problem is that we're too free. There are too many ways for people to make themselves feel better when they should be feeling worse. It's too easy to drown out very natural indicators of distress/guilt/despair... and too hard to relate to other people in a meaningful way. We're more connected to technology than each other... and it's not a conspiracy, it's the result of the human struggle to always be making ourselves more comfortable, to make everything easy and convenient and fast. This isn't something is every going to go away... if people didn't have to work, they would probably want to accomplish things, but there are so many other things that could get in the way in the meantime that people would probably end up doing only the barest minimum, even if they intended to do huge, amazing things-- in the same way people always intend to be more responsible about other things, but when the time comes they just go for whatever feels best.

This to me is the essence of anarcho-communism-- it's the person who holds themselves (and everyone else) to a high standard, but when the time comes and they actually have to do what they were talking about, even if there is a period where they're fascinated by the novelty of it all, they always fall back into the former habits, and problems surface, weaknesses begin to show, and things break down.

That's the human condition-- we're animals who experience brief glimpses of transcendence, forever on the cusp of better things that we are aware of and sometimes believe in, but never actually achieve... unless someone comes along and forces us to do it, but even then, that person would have to be perfect (like an actual messiah)... but even then, people in the west despise following orders and more and more tend to have very very little respect for authority of any kind-- in some cases trusting their own ignorance more than an informed other, simply because the ignorance is theirs and they own it and it is therefore important to them.

If the truth isn't something that paints everyone in a positive light, then people will ignore the truth. If the truth goes against something that they believe in, then they will attack the truth. And then there's the idea that there is no truth, which to some people means that anything is truth-- implying universal infallibility instead of universal humility.

If you want people to conform to your own ideal, you're going to have to do it by force... and if you do it by force, it's going to be impossible to make the new tyrants give up their power. It's the same old boring argument against communism in all of its forms-- the theory doesn't match the reality of what people are like.
 
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Muir-- maybe you do, but we're not talking about you we're talking about the majority.

No the majority of people are outwith the comfort zone of the west. You are really talking about a cosetted minority who are bombarded with missinformation, comforted with luxuries and distracted with countless distractions

Everyone has the power to force the corporations to behave more responsibly, but they choose the quick, easy fix.

I think its an awareness issue. Awareness has two parts: knowing and then understanding

There are many people who don't know what is going on. Then even if they gain knowledge of what is going on knowing is often not quite enough. The will to act comes from understanding and that is the essence of the saying: 'never judge a person until you have walked a mile in their shoes'

The point being that it is only through truely understanding that we get to the truth. So i think there are some in the west that realise that there are people elsewhere who are working in poor conditions to provide them with their comforts but unless they meet those people and begin to really understand there can be an empathy gap. The elite know this and they keep everything out of sight. when something comes into sight then they will mislead the public as to what the true causes are

So if there is to be a change there has to be an increased awareness which will involve people knowing with their head and understanding with their heart

You could argue that it's the corporations' fault for offering people immorally produced products, but at the same time if you remove that decision then people will complain about the higher prices as well as the fact that they're not being given a choice.

There wouldn't be any prices under anarchist-communism

This sort of issue you are raising here is why i'm saying we need a shift in consciousness....a shift in how we perceive things. For example a shift from the culturally ingrained idea that success is material wealth to the perception that sucess is a healthy and happy society. To do that means switching off from corporate media that will always push the perception that what is important is material wealth

So an example from the news would be the toys that often come from china that are toxic. For example there are childrens face paints being sold in the UK at the moment that have lead in them. In the capitalist mindset it would be argued...yes they are toxic to children, but they are cheaply produced by China and they provide a distraction for the masses therefore they have value to the capitalist system and should be sold cheaply to the masses

An anarchist communist might say that instead of that we could have more locally produced goods from natural resources. For example a society that is familiar with permaculture would have the means and knowledge to produce natural dyes and i have seen this done in the jungle. So children could still have face paints but ones produced by the community for free from natural materials. Why...a capitalist might argue? Well the value is not in the money to be made from the face paint or from the ability of the facepaint to provide an idle amusement to distract people from the big issues of the day but because it provides enjoyment for children

Please bare in mind that the reasons are not th same for capitalism. For example how could someone argue that they are providing a product for the amusement of children when they know that the product is actually poisoning the children?

There is a sense of what it means to buy goods that are the product of exploitation, but there is no direct connection to the actual suffering of the people involved... we can't even be certain if they are suffering, and there's no real incentive to find out.

There is proof that they are suffering. There has been a lot of very good investigative journalism for example by John Pilger (see film below). But you are right that the proof has to be looked for either through the work brought back by others or by us travelling to majority world countries and seeing conditions for ourselves and speaking to people in those countries (which i've done)

Here's a link to one of John Pilger's films:
http://johnpilger.com/videos/the-new-rulers-of-the-world


To be honest, I would fully support government initiative to remove the choice and force people to buy goods produced in ethically and morally sound environments... and apply that to everything-- vehicles, clothes, electronics. The problem isn't that we aren't free to make our own decisions, the problem is that we're too free.

No the freedom we have is an illusion. there appears to be diversity but all corporate control comes from a central source like the study i posted before shows. An example would be the media. please watch this short clip that shows how what is said on many media programmes comes from a central source, to create an illusion of diversity:

[video=youtube;HEAY445h7uw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEAY445h7uw[/video]

Please see the article below that illustrates that the mainstream media is controlled by just 6 companies: http://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the-media-in-america-2012-6

I think its pretty clear when you look behind the illusion how little choice we really have and how easily our perceptions are managed when contolled so centrally

There are too many ways for people to make themselves feel better when they should be feeling worse. It's too easy to drown out very natural indicators of distress/guilt/despair... and too hard to relate to other people in a meaningful way. We're more connected to technology than each other... and it's not a conspiracy, it's the result of the human struggle to always be making ourselves more comfortable, to make everything easy and convenient and fast.

No it is a conspiracy, which will be clear to you if you look at the supporting evidence i am providing. There really is a central cabal of people who control the money supply, the media, the big corporations, the government, the education system, big pharma, oil, hollywood etc and they very much have a coherent policy of control

Please see the documentary 'the century of the self' i posted earlier to see the part psychology has played in the engineering of our society. Groups like the Frankfurt School have massively influenced the design of our current society.

This stuff really is the building blocks of our current reality

This isn't something is every going to go away... if people didn't have to work, they would probably want to accomplish things, but there are so many other things that could get in the way in the meantime that people would probably end up doing only the barest minimum, even if they intended to do huge, amazing things-- in the same way people always intend to be more responsible about other things, but when the time comes they just go for whatever feels best.

I think the 3 things people often find in short supply in a capitalist society are: money, energy and time. The system is pretty vampiric of these three things. Please see the banking 'crisis' as an example of how the bankers have been rewarded with trillions of dollars of the publics money for their bad business practices in the 'bank bailout'.

They're feeding of us in a number of ways

This to me is the essence of anarcho-communism-- it's the person who holds themselves (and everyone else) to a high standard, but when the time comes and they actually have to do what they were talking about, even if there is a period where they're fascinated by the novelty of it all, they always fall back into the former habits, and problems surface, weaknesses begin to show, and things break down.

That doesn't seem to ever happen. if you look at historic examples like the anarchists in the spanish civil war or the paris commune they ran very efficiently but were violently shut down by outside oppressive capitalist forces run by central authorities

Contemporary examples like marinaleda in Spain or the Zapatistas are doing really well. Of course the zapatistas are constantly menaced by the US and their agents within the mexican government as should be expected because they know they are a threat. if people were to see that there really is a viable alternative to capitalism that wouldn't take all their time and energy and would give them more control over their lives and communities they would be interested in it

That's the human condition-- we're animals who experience brief glimpses of transcendence, forever on the cusp of better things that we are aware of and sometimes believe in, but never actually achieve...

Our condition is one imposed on us by the corporate cabal, but that doesn't mean it is a permanant state

unless someone comes along and forces us to do it, but even then, that person would have to be perfect (like an actual messiah)...

We are being forced at the moment. If you on't believe me then try not paying your taxes and bills for a while....see what happens. You aren't free, youre a slave and are the property of the cabal. When your parents signed your birth certificate they signed away their biological property

but even then, people in the west despise following orders and more and more tend to have very very little respect for authority of any kind-- in some cases trusting their own ignorance more than an informed other, simply because the ignorance is theirs and they own it and it is therefore important to them.

How are they ignoraant and who is the 'informed other'?

If the truth isn't something that paints everyone in a positive light, then people will ignore the truth. If the truth goes against something that they believe in, then they will attack the truth. And then there's the idea that there is no truth, which to some people means that anything is truth-- implying universal infallibility instead of universal humility.

Maybe you should try and embrace the truth? See that our society is shaped by a small number of control freaks and you have found it

If you want people to conform to your own ideal, you're going to have to do it by force... and if you do it by force, it's going to be impossible to make the new tyrants give up their power. It's the same old boring argument against communism in all of its forms-- the theory doesn't match the reality of what people are like.

It doesn't need force (capitalism needs that) it needs awareness
 
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It doesn't need force (capitalism needs that) it needs awareness

What's the difference between your version of 'awareness' and 'paranoia'?

If everyone is picking and choosing what they listen to from youtube/mainstream news/paranoid conspiracists, then everything is true. The holocaust never happened, and yet 6 million Jews died. A certain race is genetically inferior, yet we're all equal. The elites are running things and oppressing everyone and seeking to create a global slave state, but they're also trying to bring freedom and justice and liberty for all. Everything cancels itself out into a paralyzing mess of confusion and hysteria... if you cater to everyone's demands and hold them all equally, then there's never going to be agreement, and the more radically they swing to the left or the right, the less possible a true democratic society is going to be. The Internet proves that if you account for each perspective and give everyone an equal share (as you propose in your decentralized society), then you're just going to get divisions and chaos, making people more vulnerable to the very exploitation and violence and hatred that you want to prevent.

In case you haven't noticed, I actually don't have anything against anarcho-communism as an idea-- if it was possible to get it to work on a massive scale, then I would support it. I'm mostly objecting to the idea that it could ever realistically be applied to the society that we're living in now... your examples involve groups of likeminded individuals with similar ideals and similar values-- but that's just not the world we're living in and the only way that it is ever going to become the world we're living in is by force-- force which inevitably grows corrupt and is exploited in the process.

Either we all meet up in the middle, or we stick to our radical ideas and end up permanently polarized and divided-- that's how I see things.
 
What's the difference between your version of 'awareness' and 'paranoia'?

One is an accurate reflection of what is going on and the other is unfounded speculation

If everyone is picking and choosing what they listen to from youtube/mainstream news/paranoid conspiracists, then everything is true. The holocaust never happened, and yet 6 million Jews died. A certain race is genetically inferior, yet we're all equal. The elites are running things and oppressing everyone and seeking to create a global slave state, but they're also trying to bring freedom and justice and liberty for all. Everything cancels itself out into a paralyzing mess of confusion and hysteria... if you cater to everyone's demands and hold them all equally, then there's never going to be agreement, and the more radically they swing to the left or the right, the less possible a true democratic society is going to be. The Internet proves that if you account for each perspective and give everyone an equal share (as you propose in your decentralized society), then you're just going to get divisions and chaos, making people more vulnerable to the very exploitation and violence and hatred that you want to prevent.

That's because the conspiracy are putting a lot of missinformation out there

Why not take a look at some of the evidence i've been providing. The quotes are particularly insightful as they are the views of influential people who were insiders in the corridors of power throughout history

In case you haven't noticed, I actually don't have anything against anarcho-communism as an idea-- if it was possible to get it to work on a massive scale, then I would support it. I'm mostly objecting to the idea that it could ever realistically be applied to the society that we're living in now... your examples involve groups of likeminded individuals with similar ideals and similar values-- but that's just not the world we're living in and the only way that it is ever going to become the world we're living in is by force-- force which inevitably grows corrupt and is exploited in the process.

I think we are heading towards a cross roads

The economy is going to crash again. This will provide us with two routes forward. One is to go along with whatever the conspiracy provide as the solution ie a new currency and further centralisation of their power OR we start exercising our power from the bottom up and build a new society in the shell of the old

Either we all meet up in the middle, or we stick to our radical ideas and end up permanently polarized and divided-- that's how I see things.

I think anarchist communism IS the middle

On one side of it you have a system where anarchist capitalism sees the wealth concentrate into a small number of hands causing hardship for the majority and on the other hand of it you have state socialism or state capitalism where a centralised power controls every aspect of our lives

What the media does is create a false perception of where the middle is by the missuse of language. For example they will call the centralisation of power under a big government 'socialism' but they should really call it 'state socialism'...the distinction being massive!

One form is where the workers own and control the means of production and exercise consensus democracy and the other is one where a small elite control everything centrally. By calling central control 'socialism' the media effectively hide the fact from the public that there is another option where THEY THE PEOPLE have control

Another common missuse is the use of th word 'anarchy' to mean chaos when in fact it means order but order from the bottom of society upwards instead of the top down. By doing so they hide from the public a viable alternative where THEY THE PEOPLE have control

Another example is where they say the press has a 'liberal bias' to create the perception in the publics eye that the political right is actually the political left! This hides from the public the fact that there is a political left offering viable alternatives where the people have control!

Chomsky discusses this here:

[video=youtube;KYlyb1Bx9Ic]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYlyb1Bx9Ic[/video]
 
[video=youtube;zA1ioym5OYA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=zA1ioym5OYA&NR=1[/video]
 
youtube;zA1ioym5OYA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=zA1ioym5OYA&NR=1

Bill Gates is involved with the Council on Foreign Relations which is one of the main bodies of the shadow government run by the banking interests such as the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds. A speech made by him and his wife to the CFR on behalf of their foundation can be seen on their website here:

http://www.gatesfoundation.org/spee...-gates-2008-council-on-foreign-relations.aspx

The Rockefellers also created a group called the 'club of Rome' which first met at a villa belonging to the rockefellers outside of Rome. This group wrote a paper in 1972 called 'the limits to growth'. The group warned of environmental and economic collapse unless the population of the earth was reduced

This is obviously hypocrisy of the highest order for rich industrialists whose corporations have polluted the planet and who have worked so hard to stop the spread of true democracy around the world (that might have lead to less poverty and better family planning and thereby a sustainable population) to come out publically and tell us that we are all to blame and that we must reduce our numbers

Also note how big some of these banking families are....they're not doing their bit to reduce population numbers are they?

So Bill gates is working with the Rockefellers and others to reduce the worlds population. As i've said they are not doing this by spreading wealth around in a way that will reduce poverty and family planning....no they are doing it by using vaccinations that will damage the immune systems of people

Bill Gates says that he wants to REDUCE POPULATION NUMBERS. So perhaps you can explain to me how vaccinating all the peoples of the world is going to reduce population numbers?

If vaccines save lives as gates claims then they would BOOST the population numbers wouldn't they

Here he is talking about population reduction:

[video=youtube;6WQtRI7A064]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WQtRI7A064[/video]

In the clip you've posted above Gates says that his 'creative capitalism' wants to work in the areas of:
  • medicine (ie vaccines)
  • phones (surveillance and also to help log people for the vaccination programs...google it)
  • banking (of course banking, because his bosses are bankers!!!)
  • food (this will no doubt include genetically modified food, monsanto foods and food additivies such as aspartame which damage the brain)

When gates says in the clip he wants to 'reduce impoversihment' what he really means is that he wants to cull the poor of the world

This guy is not a role model to be admired, he's a danger to mankind

All 'creative capitalism' is is an extention of the plan for a new world order
 
Bill Gates was the son of William Gates who was the head of 'Planned parenthood'; these people are eugenicists intent on culling the population:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_Parenthood

Bill Gates is the son of William Gates, II who has the head of Planned Parenthood. He comes from a family tradition of elitism where the general population needs to be controlled, curtailed and even extinguished. This son has made his father proud, carrying on the family credo by getting involved with the vaccine industry. Through his financial investments with Monsanto, Gates has been able to make his depopulation desire all the more closer to reality.
Here is a list of some of the atrocities against humanity Bill Gates has committed in the name of global health.

  1. Bill Gates continues to pour millions of dollars into high-risk geoengineering projects that purport to offer a solution to global warming yet have been savaged by environmentalists as potentially posing a greater threat than climate change itself.
  2. In 2009, Microsoft purchased a key piece of technology from the drug company Merck, the world’s largest maker of vaccines. This gene-targeting vaccine research technology is described as a way to “figure out how genes interact with each other, analyze peptides and metabolites, and determine how they relate to gene expression.”
  3. In a keynote address to mHealth Summit in November 2010, Gates told the audience of more than 2,000 at the conference, “About one-third [of that improvement] is by increasing income. The majority has been through vaccines. Vaccines will be the key. If you could register every birth on a cell phone—get fingerprints, get a location—then you could [set up] systems to make sure the immunizations happen.”
  4. The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation poured $23 million into Monsanto shares. Companies like Monsanto are channeled through companies like Blackwater, Total Intelligence Solutions (Monsanto’s intelligence arm) and Terrorism Research Center.
  5. ABC News has been bought through a $1.5 million dollar grant from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation to promote vaccines; GMO food and anythingelse they want the public to have a controlled idea about.
  6. Thanks to a $750 million dollar commitment from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, GAVI launched its initiative to vaccinate millions of individuals worldwide. The deadly Garasil vaccine is their prized weapon because of its high mortality rate.
  7. The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation today announced 78 grants of US$100,000 each in the latest round of Grand Challenges Explorations. Grants include the development of a low-cost cell phone microscope to diagnose malaria, study of the strategic placement of insect-eating plants to reduce insect-borne diseases, and investigation of nanoparticles to release vaccines when they come in contact with human sweat.
  8. Several members of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation management committee, leadership teams, affiliates, and major funders are currently or were previously members of the boards or executive branches of several major drug makers, including Merck and Novartis.
  9. The Gates Foundation holdings are invested in Berkshire Hathaway, which the researchers write has significant ownership in GlaxoSmithKline, Sanofi-Aventis Johnson & Johnson.
  10. The Gates Foundation held stock in Merck at a time when it developed partnerships with the African Comprehensive AIDS and Malaria Partnership and the Merck Company Foundation to test Merck products . . . on unsuspecting Africans.
  11. Gates continues to push vaccines when the pharmaceutical vaccine makers do not speak about the enormous health damage from infant vaccination including autism and numerous neuro-muscular deformities that have been traced back to the toxic adjuvants and preservatives used in most vaccines.
  12. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation are also financing a project called The Alliance for a Green Revolution in Africa (AGRA). Monsanto, DuPont, Dow, Syngenta and other major GMO agribusiness giants are reported at the heart of AGRA, using it as a back-door to spread their patented GMO seeds across Africa under the deceptive label, ‘bio-technology,’ a euphemism for genetically engineered patented seeds.
  13. The Gates Foundation, according to their website, wants to vaccinate the entire world population, despite medical evidence that vaccinations are deadly.
  14. The World Health Organization, one of GAVI’s partners, teamed up with the World Bank and UN Population Fund in the 1970′s under the “Task Force on Vaccines for Fertility Regulation”. The Task Force, “…acts as a global coordinating body for anti-fertility vaccine R&D.” GAVI is heavily funded by the Bill & Melinda gates Foundation for the global vaccination projects.
  15. One of the programs funded by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation is a sterilization program that would use sharp blasts of ultrasound directed against a man’s scrotum to render him infertile for six months. It might accurately be called a “temporary castration” technology.
  16. When a billionaire like Bill Gates suddenly becomes entranced by vaccines as philanthropy the world should take notice. Studies have come out refuting the necessity of these vaccines as a risk to public health, yet Gates continues on. In an answer to the alternative media’s exposure to his death peddling, Gates has bought ABC News as an attempt to gain back his influence on the public. All the power grabbing and manipulation of the media does not change the fact that the world is waking up to the dangers of vaccines, refusing to have them or give them to their children.
  17. Third world countries are in a less advantageous stance to refuse these poisons. This is a grave injustice being forced onto these people. Where medical care should be helping, it is only contributing to the mounting death toll thanks to Bill Gates.

http://occupycorporatism.com/bill-gates-eugenicist-extraordinaire/
 
There was an attampted fascist coup in the USA back in the 30's when some bankers and businessmen tried to recruit an officer of the marines to create and lead a mercenary army to seize the whitehouse and overthrow the president. One of the conspirators was J.P.Morgan an agent of the Rothschilds:

[video=youtube;oMEI8bnbw1o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMEI8bnbw1o[/video]

There's another video in my next post.

This corporate cabal has been trying to take over the government for hundreds of years. They have now succeeded and control the government through groups such as the Council On Foreign Relations and the Federal Reserve Bank

President Eisenhower called this cabal the 'military industrial complex' and warned the Us public of their existence in his final speech as president (see speech in one of the posts below)
 
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[video=youtube;o1KwaLa8zTQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1KwaLa8zTQ[/video]
 
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=370

Planned Parenthood, an organization that claims to promote women’s health and well-being, has a deeply stained history of racism, hatred and lies.

Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, summed up the purpose of her organization with this statement: “More children from the fit, less from the unfit.”

It sounds like something out of Nazi Germany, like eugenics or creating a master race. Sanger founded the American Birth Control League in 1923, which later became the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, Inc. She was a passionate advocate for eugenics, a movement that essentially tried to wipe out any human being deemed genetically “unfit.”

Another well-known fan of eugenics? Adolf Hitler.

In Sanger’s autobiography, she wrote, “The eugenists wanted to shift the birth control emphasis from less children for the poor to more children for the rich. We went back to that and sought first to stop the multiplication of the unfit. This appeared the most important and greatest step towards race betterment.”

She continued, “Birth control itself, often denounced as a violation of natural law, is nothing more or less than the facilitation of the processes of weeding out the unfit, of preventing the birth of defectives or of those who will become defectives.”

Most of the people Sanger named “defectives” or “unfit” were minorities. One of her goals was to “exterminate the Negro population,” a phrase she used in a documented letter to an associate while discussing the future of the organization. Sanger’s words should send shivers down spines.


Although Sanger dedicated her life to providing birth control for the “unfit” of the nation, Planned Parenthood still hails their founder as “one of the movement’s great heroes.” People have not forgotten the horribly racist principles Planned Parenthood was founded on. An April, 2008 protest in Washington D.C. addressed the racism still found in Planned Parenthood today. Day Gardner, President of the National Black Pro-Life Union, said we “must wake up and stand up to this racist organization that purposefully plants abortion facilities firmly in black and minority neighborhoods and urban communities - sometimes, right next-door to schools.”


Statistics show that African-American babies make up 20 percent of live births, but 36 percent of abortions. Rev. Jesse Peterson told the crowd at the protest, “before you go to bed tonight, more than 1,500 babies will be killed in a black woman’s womb.”


Douglas R. Scott is the president of Life Decisions International and the author of “Bad Choices: A Look Inside Planned Parenthood.” In his article “Killing More Minorities than the Ku Klux Klan,” he said, “If a bigot really wanted to make sure there are fewer people of color, he would not join the Ku Klux Klan’s crusade; he would join Planned Parenthood’s. After all, Planned Parenthood is much more effective than the Klan was at the height of its terror. Planned Parenthood is killing more people than the Klan ever did — and doing it in the name of “freedom of choice” and the “betterment” of minority populations.”

On their Web site, they claim that “for more than 90 years, Planned Parenthood has promoted a commonsense approach to women’s health and well-being.” Oh, really? Sanger was still passionately pushing her “extermination plan” in 1941, which was 67 years ago.

Next week, starting on Sep. 24, 2008, 40 Days for Life will begin its 24-hour presence outside abortion clinics across the country. During the 40 days, pro-life organizations, including many students and young adults, stand peacefully outside numerous Planned Parenthoods and other abortion clinics. Some people use the time to pray; others walk up and down the sidewalk. According to the campaign’s Web site, last year, because of the 35,000 people who participated nationally, more than 500 mothers chose to keep their babies, abortion workers quit their jobs and clinics closed down and ceased performing abortions.


Planned Parenthood must be stopped. The racist intentions of this organization continue to leave an ugly scar on American society.
 
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This may be diverting from the previous point the video was supposed to make, but it brings up another point. Thanks to the military industrial complex we have, other industries suffer. These are industries that could benefit society in other ways and leaves the workforce crippled by promoting the idea that all you need to do is join the military.

For instance, when I tutored the "at risk" teenagers, most of their grand plans in life were to join the military. These were 3rd years seniors, in danger of failing entirely and needing to get a GED. Some weren't even seniors yet and were in the same boat. Thanks to the Military Industrial Complex, youth don't need to actually excel academically or intellectually. They can scrape by in school, join the military, work as a mechanic, get college tuition, healthcare and pensions well after they serve and produce another generation of uneducated, brainwashed offspring that will do the same thing.

If we shifted our funding to be in line with the rest of the developed world, there could be millions of people more who would be unemployed, starve and need social assistance - all of the former, current and soon-to-be military personnel. They really have no marketable skills once they leave the service. I know, I've worked the exact same jobs as them; they simply get preference on civil service positions and exams.

If we then placed the military funding to healthcare and education, like the rest of the world does, many of these people would have no chance of getting a job; firing a gun and having 0 years of higher education doesn't apply very well on a medical resume.

So, since no one bothered to listen to Ike (A Republican too, for that matter) or the forefathers who warned against a standing military, we have several generations of lazy, dimwits who never needed to even flex a brain cell in order to function in our society. Systems like Universal Healthcare are completely off the table since we don't have anyone qualified to actually work in that field if we funded it with the "former" military budget.

We're screwed....
 
We're screwed....

I think we're just on the ropes at the moment

We are at war with a cabal of bankers who have taken over our government; we're only going to win that war when we know what we are up against
 
So I didn't read a single post in this thread but all I have to say is FUCK ROTHSCHILD
FUCK OBAMA
FUCK REAGAN
FUCK ROCKEFELLER
AND
GOLDMAN SUCKS!

PS Alan Greenspan can politely polish my relentless reciprocating saw.
 
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Peer to peer lending

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I think I'll just use this thread to post links to things that are probably going to piss people off:

http://taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=543

^This isn't really related to the 'capitalism' debate, but it does show the tax rates for the rich in the US over the past 100 years-- after World War I, Wilson (a democrat) raised it by over 50%-- and there was prosperity until a series of Republican presidents started cutting taxes again, and there was a bubble followed by a massive crash and a depression... and the US had to wait for a Democrat before the taxes would go up AND the economy would improve.

Notice the tax rates during the undeniably prosperous period of 1951-1963 (Kennedy assassinated, taxes go down by 20% for the rich in the following year-- how ya like that one [MENTION=1871]muir[/MENTION]?).

So the rate declines slightly and then balances until finally the Reagan years see another, massive cut that makes Reagan a hero-- people with even lower (but still comfortably upper middle class) salaries are now paying less tax. Everyone is happy.

Then Bush Sr.'s presidency saw another tax cut for the majority of middle class earners (which seems to have been a bad idea), followed by a very slight rise in taxes on anyone earning over 82k (basically, the upper middle class AND the mega-rich-- bad move, Bush Sr.). It costs him the 1992 election (A Republican robbing the rich while giving to the poor??? We can't have that!).

A new (slight) tax made socially acceptable by the Democrat Clinton (have you noticed that Americans are more likely to accept new taxes from a Democrat?) leads to a recovery from the not-so-huge early 90s recession, and then finally, the Bush tax cuts (which as much as people like to blame him for everything, actually aren't so huge)... and finally, the point we're at today.

Notice that after every single economic bubble/disaster, the tax rate has gone up dramatically on the very rich, there's prosperity, a Republican who is elected on the promise of tax cuts, a bubble, a crash, and then a Democrat who raises taxes again. This has been the pattern for the past century with only one exception---after the 2008 crash.

You can say it's because Obama is a puppet in some shadowy conspiracy and the masterstroke that will permanently effect all human life on earth is about to be revealed (possible), or that it's because the Republicans are blocking all attempts at doing what has always been done and always must be done, because they are dumb.

I'm going to go with the latter simply because if you look at what the Republican party is, you'll realize that there are a lot of idiots who have far more power than they should, and the entire party has metamorphosed into a joke with a dangerous, disturbing punchline... where greed is acceptable because it's coming from the mouths of caricatures who come off as impotent children even though the amount of damage that they are capable of is terrifying.
 
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You know, what's really scary about this pattern is that it shows just how easily you can manipulate the stock market through politics-- if you were one of the 'elites' and you did have the ability to get someone elected president, you could start with a Republican, distract people with wars and tax cuts, let the bubble swell and watch everyone get super happy-- then right before the bubble burst you could sell sell sell, the bubble would burst, you would buy up the now-cheap stock with all of the money you made, the Democrat would come in, raise taxes (because everyone was expecting him to), there would be a recovery, and in the next election people would vote for whoever promised them tax breaks (the Republican). It seems like a pretty easy way to make money!

But then-- why isn't it happening this time?

Yeah, even though it is pretty suspicious, I'm going to go with 'cuz they're dumb'.
 
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