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Roses In The Vineyard
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The one thing they feared the most.
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And smashed in a door....
Nope, not this time. The someone is ME, it is exactly one page back (post#1233) for all to see. Mis-represent all you want but, as you clearly stated it is there for all to read. What I did do was ask you if my interpretation was accurate to what you posted. So no, you did not respond to my question which clearly was: is my interpretation accurate? I do find it amusing that the left does what they accuse the right of doing and of course via large issue it works because the Main Stream Media doesn't confront that behavior they actually promote the behavior. So in this case the inference is that *I* need to "check myself" because I do not subscribe to the same information that you do. No thank you, I'll pass. I also do enjoy you adding the I to the statements - nice touch. Why are you including yelling and cursing in a post referencing me? I have neither yelled or cursed. I also had not brow beat anyone (not that as you are about to admit, doesn't mean anything).. I have also conceded at least once that I have zero expectation that any of this will change anyone's mind.
I am a bit puzzled on the assertion that Trump supporters believe something that simply is not true. So if one were say a Christian and met a person say that was Jewish, and the Jewish person offers that Christ was not the Saviour of the world (hence the absence of the New Testament) then the Jewish person is believing something that simply isn't true?
I will applaud your effort at standing up for the brow beaten (even if I dis-agree yet again, that they exist yes, yes, more non-truths I believe) and also that is the motivation for your involvement. That does indeed save you more time in having any need to respond.
Certainly we can both agree that posts should not be mis-represented, can't we?
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https://www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/guide/shared-psychotic-disorder
(Someone needs to "document" it.)
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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/brian-sicknick-fire-extinguisher/
https://news.yahoo.com/times-corrects-record-officer-sicknick-204024018.html
https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-was-capitol-police-officer-brian-sicknick-killed-rioters-1571891
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/n...r-striking-capitol-police-officer/ar-BB1dG92n
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2021/0...-fire-extinguisher-as-media-reported-1034919/
https://www.truthorfiction.com/befo...ade-around-a-cop-separated-from-other-police/
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2021/0...told-was-a-lie-from-beginning-to-end-1028391/
https://www.politifact.com/article/2021/feb/22/what-we-know-about-capitol-police-officer-brian-si/
https://slate.com/news-and-politics...-officer-dies-injuries-fire-extinguisher.html
https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/...ut-deaths-connected-to-the-capitol-hill-riot/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...sicknick-killed-blunt-force-head-january-6th/
https://www.newsweek.com/capitol-hi...fficer-video-steps-beat-american-flag-1560465
https://www.dailydot.com/debug/capitol-riot-fire-extinguisher-turning-point-bus/
https://realnewsaggregator.com/news...rge-floyd-her-son-he-was-not-beaten-with-a-fi
If anyone happens by this post in the immediate future it is not complete. If someone wonders a period of time later why it was edited several times, that is the level of my technical capabilities.
For now this is complete.
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I might suggest that this forum is a poor venue for conspiracy theories, and to hold a trump won the election campaign.
Or perhaps, start a new thread to support trump and lift up his lies to the electorate. The rest of us riff-raff will leave you in peace
Or perhaps, start a new thread to support trump and lift up his lies to the electorate. The rest of us riff-raff will leave you in peace
As a point of reference for my post #1255 I will offer some insights. 1. I was castigated in my early days on here for not "documenting" my references. IF (big if) I have time this week I will attempt to offer those post numbers as well (holding ones breath is not a good idea). 2. In all of those references I very deliberately avoided Fox, Breitbart and any others seen as rabid right Neo-Nazis. 3. If one had such an inclination reading those sources can provide a very astute insight as to why group A believes one thing and group B is accused of believing things that "are simply not true". 4. If one were to take the time one can also learn how the left MSM (that is redundant) takes a non-truth and ties it to more implications of Neo-Nazi behavior. 4a. The person who killed the Police Officer (in one of the stories) rode a BUS (yes a bus) organized by Turning Point USA. For those that mostly don't care, the false statement about the death was then used to "prove" Turning Point USA was simply transporting and facilitating murderers. And hence that Turning Point USA is nothing more than The Nazi youth brigade. 5. There is even an article that "fact checks" as "True" that the officer was killed by the fire extinguisher (a. he wasn't and b. they had absolutely no way to know anything at the point anyhow) and that BLM can be seen protecting Police officers. Obviously not the ones they wanted rolled in a blanket and fried like Bacon.
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Haters of Trump masquerading as Trump supporters. Planning ahead of the event. Let into the building. One is with a CNN reporter and one of them says, "I can't believe we did it!" Something like that.
I saw a Columbo episode that was eerily similar. A gathering of a certain kind of people. A portion of the gathering with criminal activity. Case closed.
Columbo has his astute sleuthing skills fully engaged. He actually finds out that of the criminal portion, some were imposters! And a mainstream media person was involved! He investigated further and saw planning and deliberate intent.
I was on my seat for the episode's climax. And then Columbo said:
NOTHING TO SEE HERE! IT'S ALL A BIG FAT NOTHING-BURGER!
Boy, was I surprised at that ending!
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How much denial do you have to be in to really think people who don't support Trump are responsible for the events of 1/6 just to make him look bad? There are so many arrested from that day whose social media documents their support for Trump months and years in advance. Whose own families reported them to the FBI.... Who have made appearances at previous Trump rallys and were interviewed there by local media.... He had been calling for them to rally to save the country and to fight to save their country.
It is always someone else. Never Trump (for inciting this) Never Trump supporters who did what they thought he asked. And this is why people say Trump supporters are in a cult. You just believe whatever you want or whatever Trump says to justify following him. And many of them did terrible things in their nearly religious fervor over Trump.
It is always someone else. Never Trump (for inciting this) Never Trump supporters who did what they thought he asked. And this is why people say Trump supporters are in a cult. You just believe whatever you want or whatever Trump says to justify following him. And many of them did terrible things in their nearly religious fervor over Trump.
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Conspiracy - an unlawful act committed by one or more people that is done in secrecy.
Theory - an explanation for a phenomenon.
Conspiracy theory:
An explanation for a phenomenon that includes an unlawful act committed by one or more people and carried out in secrecy.
I looked out my front door and noticed my car was not in the driveway. I thought someone may have stolen my car.
But, then I realized that would make me a conspiracy theorist which I was told is a definite no-no.
When the Maricopa results come out, I am anticipating conspiracy theories. Actually, some have already suggested conspiracy theories. You know...from the folks desperately trying to stop it.
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Double-speak for not interested in purported information that may challenge one's perception of reality.
You know...part of the essence of truth-seeking.
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you are right that Sicknicks did not die from being hit in the head with a fire extinguisher. But one was used as a missile by an insurrectionist against the Police. This is a piece of the affidavit attesting to the facts and there is a link to said affidavit. Sadly the accused is a retired firefighter.
https://extremism.gwu.edu/sites/g/files/zaxdzs2191/f/Robert Sanford Statement of Facts.pdf
For those NOT actively involved in this thread I am offering another source to garner additional perspective on why Group A believes on thing and Group B believes something that simply isn't true.
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/trump-russiagate-steele-dossier/
It is indeed a moderately long read (10-15? minutes) but points out the "high points" (which were actually the low points) of what transpired and why. I am not at this point in time going to directly address the assertion that the FBI was involved in the 1/6/21 "Insurrection" because that would simply just blow this whole board up and there is no constructive purpose for that. I am also not going to rely on spiffy and large fonts to make any points. If they can't stand on their own in this font and size - so be it.
There is a fabulous opportunity here for those not involved to develop a sense of what has and can transpire.
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/trump-russiagate-steele-dossier/
It is indeed a moderately long read (10-15? minutes) but points out the "high points" (which were actually the low points) of what transpired and why. I am not at this point in time going to directly address the assertion that the FBI was involved in the 1/6/21 "Insurrection" because that would simply just blow this whole board up and there is no constructive purpose for that. I am also not going to rely on spiffy and large fonts to make any points. If they can't stand on their own in this font and size - so be it.
There is a fabulous opportunity here for those not involved to develop a sense of what has and can transpire.
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@larry806q , @David54 referred to an officer being hit in the head with a fire extinguisher, you respond with a list of well sourced news articles indicating that media reports of an officer who died from such a blow were false. Were you trying to say that no fire extinguishers were used as weapons against the police? It would seem so but infact that was not the case as the affidavit that @SlowUpTake posted demonstrates. Your response is apparently an invitation to anyone trying to make sense of this ongoing discussion as to what is true and what is deception is to read a long article about the Steele dossier. So since the police officer who died in the media reports was not hit in the head with a fire extinguisher, the whole fire extinguisher assault is false just as since the Steele dossier was chock full of russian disinformation therefore the whole trump-russia collusion thing is false. Have I got that right [comrade] ?
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