Vote (or not)
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This is fucking awesome
well the problem is that we have a two party system where the oligarchs control both parties
it seems the job of the democrats is to socially engineer american society to prepare it to be a communist technocracy while the job of the republicans is to bomb the crap out of any foreign country that doesn't want to be absorbed into a global communist technocracy
Democrats bomb too
that is true...
the 'neocons' used to be the most aggressive people in washington but they now seem to have an equivalent in the democrats and it might be possible to now talk of 'demo-cons'
obama even had 'kill lists' of people to be murdered without trial by drone strike some of which were american citizens
He and hilary 'the butcher of benghazi' clinton pushed war in libya which destroyed one of the most socially advanced countries in africa leaving it in ruins and then supported a war in syria
the removal of libya as a viable country then led to the waves of african economic migrants crossing the mediterenean which is now destabilising europe and has seen a rape and crime epidemic sweep across the continent along with many terror attacks which have then seen a state of emergency declared in france and an increase in government surveillance of all european citizens for example the 'snoopers charter' in the UK and a general lowering of the rights and freedoms of european people
wanna know what a psychopath sounds like? listen to this:
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Rowan Tree
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Doubtful.
Half true.
Actually, I don't wholly disagree. I mean, that's just a tiny part of the problem and I don't think we share any ideas about what is meant by 'oligarch' or 'control,' but otherwise...
no really
political correctness was being pushed to the nth degree under obama and the purpose of political correctness is not to create a more fair and equal society it is to silence anyone who wants to question various agendas. Those agendas all lead to the same place: oligarchic control over society
identity politics have been pushed to such a degree that america is now tearing itself apart
all that happened under 8 years of the democrats and we are now seeing the fruits of that with the 'looney left' activities under trump
Rowan Tree
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It's socially unacceptable to use racial slurs and mock disabled people, therefore 'oligarchic control over society'? A little bit of a stretch, no?
Completely vague.
What happened? Political correctness and identity politics are vague buzz terms, not things that happened.
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@kinglear this thread is about voting or not voting specifically in the upcoming elections (in the us or where ever) please refrain from posting your usual, paranoid, slanted and otherwise off topic attacks on the US government at large and Jews in general. We are all quite aware of your views as you are not the first nor will you be the last to hijack threads on this forum with diatribes against the those who you believe are in control. (btw Hillary Clinton is not on any ballot)
they absolutely have been pushed and the majority of americans see it as a problem:
Poll Finds 80% of Americans, Including Minority Groups, Reject Political Correctness
october 12 2018
A new poll found that 80 percent of Americans believe political correctness is a problem, including large majorities of minority groups.
The study, titled "Hidden Tribes: A Study of America’s Polarized Landscape," found that 82 percent of respondents also view hate speech as a problem.
Among those disliking PC culture were 79 percent of respondents under age 24, 79 percent of whites, 87 percent of Hispanics and 75 percent of African-Americans.
http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/10/...-minority-groups-reject-political-correctness
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Again, off topic. and yes I do not like it when folks post videos of snippets of what a well known politican has said at different times and places and then turns it into an anti semetic smear
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That's not really surprising when PC is defined mostly negatively in most media, usually as something vague, absurd and/or just malevolent. This study is a lot more interesting than the Fox presentation of it, which is arguably an example of the very thing the study is critiquing; i.e. polarised political wings. But it is more a measure of attitudes and doesn't seem to even have a working definition of what PC means.
Consider this point. Really.
what video are you talking about?
well lets consider both of those terms...
so with political correctness we have to ask who gets to define what is 'politically correct' at any given point in time?
clearly what is considered 'politically correct' can change at any time
for example the nazis decided that being jewish was politically incorrect and prior to them the bolsheviks decided that being a white christian was politically incorrect
you see the problem? So who holds the whip hand?
This is why i support decentralisation to protect ALL groups against persecution
its the same with 'hate speech': who gets to decide what is hate speech?
lets say i'm on the staff of this forum and i don't like you. I could say that your points you were making were 'hate speech'
Maybe you had no hateful intent behind what you were saying but it wouldn't matter because you are not the person with the whip hand. In fact the member of staff might be the one who hates you but because they have authority they could claim whatever they like
you see?
this is the problem with authoritarianism
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I vote in referendums because they actually count but i don't vote in elections because the system is set up in such a way that there are only two parties and both of those parties are controlled by large lobby groups that fund the campaigns of the politicians in those parties
If i was american i wouldn't vote because on one hand you have trump who is funded by sheldon adelson who will be wanting a return on his investment and on the other side you have the 'democratic' party that is revealing itself to be communist more by the day. So really the choice offered there is: communism v's zionism
So a vote for zionism would see the bombing of arab countries and a vote for communism would see the systematic dismantling of the US so that the population relinquish any individual rights to allow a communist technocracy to manifest
The problem is that people might think ''well i want to keep my individual rights so i'll vote republican'' but if you look the 5G system is being rolled out right now under trumps leadership so clearly he is not going to challenge the technocracy. The 5G is needed to handle the extra traffic of the smart grid 'internet of things' which is going to form the bedrock of the technocracy
So my opinion on voting in the US is that a lot of the political conflict you see portrayed in the corporate media is really to distract you from a bigger agenda: the technocracy which is advancing under successive democratic AND republican parties
So if you don't vote then what's left?
I think that the identity politics thing is also to further divide society so that society is 'balkanised' into competing factions who can't stand together against the technocracy and who will angrily vote for one or other of the parties depending on what they perceive the interests of their identity group to be
So i think what people need to do is make a vote for each other by rejecting identity politics and trying to build bridges over the divides. Also they need to really understand what the technocracy is and where it is coming from so that they can make informed decisions about what tech they engage with and how they engage with it