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Analysts surmise that Iran could choose to annihilate Israel and put Netanyahu on trial. Israel is reportedly getting weaker now and countries involved are reportedly more willing to go to the negotiation table via the UN. There are still a lot of weird gaps in that possibility, however, like I actually wonder that personalities like Netanyahu and Trump would agree to whatever compromise that is being concocted.
That said, because these are real time events, no prediction could fit absolutely even for INFJs and their intuitions. The volatility of the danger however is clear and present. The next few days down to the weekend are reportedly crucial.
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the entire population of Israel would make a wonderful addition to the US.(i am not kidding)
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The rules of engagement also state where engagement is considered to be acceptable.
You might say that I take it a little personal because my grandfather was out there on a navy ship that was bombed. His back was broken and his entire life was spent in a handicapped state. So, it directly impacted my life.
I don’t believe that nuclear weapons are ok for anyone. I’ve looked at why the action was chosen and it all pains me to even think about it.
As it relates to this thread there is a serious concern about Iran having access to nuclear capabilities. Israel is obviously the primary concern because Iran has been aiding the Hoothies in Yemen and there are attacks on cargo ships attempting to enter the Red Sea. I also think (not for certain) Iran has also been indirectly involved through the attacks in Gaza.
Personally, I wish the US would stop being the world police and instead focus solely on our country but I know I’m in the minority and simple logic suggest that a disengagement would be perceived as weakness and likely result in aggressive and persistent attacks.
So, this takes me back to the reason Israel was installed as a government. Without understanding the reason why, then we cant understand if military engagement in that region is considered acceptable by a government.
One thing is for certain, a destabilized Middle East effects the entire world.
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You may find this book interesting.
At that time neither Hawaii nor Puerto Rico and the Philippines were clear cut US territories. Both Hawaiians and Filipinos were pushing back against American presence in their lands and both lost to the US. The American People weren't particularly interested in either Puerto Rico or the Philippines, which were sold to the US by Spain along during the resolution of the Spanish American War. There were too many revolutionaries, allegedly and they didn't care for it, but they liked Hawaii.
The damages that Pearl Harbor endured were minimal compared to the damages in Manila. Yet, the attack on Pearl Harbor was allegedly a carefully concocted imaging by F.D. Roosevelt to justify American participation in WWII. Japan wasn't attacking to attack the U.S., it was laying claim on Asia-Pacific territories. The U.S. wanted to participate because it needed to expand its empire and sustain the growth of its economy. WWII fueled U.S. economic growth thereafter. Philippines and Puerto Rico continued to be de facto territories through unannounced puppet governments while Hawaii was voted into a U.S. state.
You may find this book interesting.
At that time neither Hawaii nor Puerto Rico and the Philippines were clear cut US territories. Both Hawaiians and Filipinos were pushing back against American presence in their lands and both lost to the US. The American People weren't particularly interested in either Puerto Rico or the Philippines, which were sold to the US by Spain along during the resolution of the Spanish American War. There were too many revolutionaries, allegedly and they didn't care for it, but they liked Hawaii.
The damages that Pearl Harbor endured were minimal compared to the damages in Manila. Yet, the attack on Pearl Harbor was allegedly a carefully concocted imaging by F.D. Roosevelt to justify American participation in WWII. Japan wasn't attacking to attack the U.S., it was laying claim on Asia-Pacific territories. The U.S. wanted to participate because it needed to expand its empire and sustain the growth of its economy. WWII fueled U.S. economic growth thereafter. Philippines and Puerto Rico continued to be de facto territories through unannounced puppet governments while Hawaii was voted into a U.S. state.
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Self confessed Zionists seem to be common these days.
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Thank you for sharing the information. I did do some research and I’ve looked at several books of similar content. I finally had to put it away and just let it all go.
When I was working on my undergraduate work I took Japanese and went to several of the functions with expatriates, teachers, and students where culture and activities were involved. I personally love the Japanese culture and the idea of nuclear bombs on that country is inconceivable.
The truth is that the people of a country often pay the price of stupid decisions made by politicians who think they can play God. The greater the power seems to increase the level of delusion.
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That might be so, but the oil markets always spike when there's an actual (threat of) war. Check the price of oil in the weeks and months after Russia invaded Ukraine.
The "nothing ever happens" razor was sharp again. We can now say that US bombing of Iran was tremendous success. No boots on the ground, limited casualties, Iran weakened and forced to submission.
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The new world order is going to be interesting because China as the rising hegemony is actually pushing for multipolarity. It's pushing for Euros, US dollar, and Renminbi as reserve currencies. I personally find this diversification hopeful. It distributes economic powers. In my mind it is more leaning toward regional balance than hegemony.
With that new order, US remains a leading force though not the sole force, if US should take the challenge. I imagine it's a good opportunity for the US to shift toward degrowth and sustainability as what Europe has been working for.
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So the US hit Iran and destroyed a mountain of nuclear development. Then the US mediates a cease fire between Iran and Israel. Immediately after the cease fire begins we have the following:
My intuition says that Israel sent air strikes because nobody would start attacking immediately after having a giant bomb destroy a mountain. Then Iran began shooting because they were being attacked.
This makes me believe that the tail is wagging the dog with the tail being Israel (via Europe) and the dog being the United States.
It all begs the question, where does Israel gain this kind of power - seems obvious to me? Immediately after the bombing, Trump meets with NATO, and everyone seems to love Daddy Trump.
I’ve been waiting to see if this connection between Europe and Trump would emerge and here we are, just over six months into the new administration, and everyone is working together like a well oiled clock.
The real power is in Europe and Trump is demonstrating his allegiance.
Trump appears to have finally been accepted into the club, which is exactly what he wanted when he originally ran for president in his first term. Let’s see how chummy he gets with NATO and the UN now…
What I expect to see next:
- Russia will be humiliated and Ukraine will have its land returned.
- Then (perhaps simultaneously) China will bend the knee and pay heavily for reneging on its agreement with the UK as it pertains to Hong Kong (already in progress). I suspect Xi will loose control of the country and a new regime to be implemented. By controlling Iran their will be control over China because China needs Iranian oil / energy. Without its manufacturing sector operating at peak and not enough oil to fight a war. China will cave to US demands. Tariffs will be lowered and cheap labor will make everyone fat, dumb, and happy.
Another indicator is Bill Maher is now in full support of Trump and MAGA. So, I had to check The Tonight Show and saw that Jimmy Fallon was making fun of Democrat senators. My eyes almost popped out of my head.
I wouldn’t expect the deportations to stop but if the media flips then we won’t continue to hear about any of it.
If the media flips then everyone will also start to get what they want including California and New York.
Something tells me we are on track for a strong three and a half years of Uniparty.
I get the feeling that Elon saw the flip coming and knew there was nothing left to do. As a citizen I share his frustration but I’ve learned not to trust politicians and that the status quo always seems to find its way back to the Uniparty. I’m not surprised.
Anyone who is Democrat centric can take a breath and exhale. I expect the Trump King to start being nice to you.
My intuition says that Israel sent air strikes because nobody would start attacking immediately after having a giant bomb destroy a mountain. Then Iran began shooting because they were being attacked.
This makes me believe that the tail is wagging the dog with the tail being Israel (via Europe) and the dog being the United States.
It all begs the question, where does Israel gain this kind of power - seems obvious to me? Immediately after the bombing, Trump meets with NATO, and everyone seems to love Daddy Trump.
I’ve been waiting to see if this connection between Europe and Trump would emerge and here we are, just over six months into the new administration, and everyone is working together like a well oiled clock.
The real power is in Europe and Trump is demonstrating his allegiance.
Trump appears to have finally been accepted into the club, which is exactly what he wanted when he originally ran for president in his first term. Let’s see how chummy he gets with NATO and the UN now…
What I expect to see next:
- Russia will be humiliated and Ukraine will have its land returned.
- Then (perhaps simultaneously) China will bend the knee and pay heavily for reneging on its agreement with the UK as it pertains to Hong Kong (already in progress). I suspect Xi will loose control of the country and a new regime to be implemented. By controlling Iran their will be control over China because China needs Iranian oil / energy. Without its manufacturing sector operating at peak and not enough oil to fight a war. China will cave to US demands. Tariffs will be lowered and cheap labor will make everyone fat, dumb, and happy.
Another indicator is Bill Maher is now in full support of Trump and MAGA. So, I had to check The Tonight Show and saw that Jimmy Fallon was making fun of Democrat senators. My eyes almost popped out of my head.
I wouldn’t expect the deportations to stop but if the media flips then we won’t continue to hear about any of it.
If the media flips then everyone will also start to get what they want including California and New York.
Something tells me we are on track for a strong three and a half years of Uniparty.
I get the feeling that Elon saw the flip coming and knew there was nothing left to do. As a citizen I share his frustration but I’ve learned not to trust politicians and that the status quo always seems to find its way back to the Uniparty. I’m not surprised.
Anyone who is Democrat centric can take a breath and exhale. I expect the Trump King to start being nice to you.
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Me too. I think it’s been in place much longer than 45 years and I certainly wasn’t aware of it until the late 90s and early 2000s. I just don’t talk about it much because most people can’t (or are unwilling) to even consider it. I do think people are starting to look closer over the last 15 years so that makes me hopeful.
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Indeed. I said 45 because the Iran hostage crisis of ~1979 was the beginning of my awareness of the politics and writings which led to the creation of Israel, the petrodollar, the US subsidy of Israel, and so on.
Prior to that, I was primarily interested in my Apple ][ and electronics kit, reading Tolkien and C.S. Lewis, the stereo, medical biology, and Dungeons and Dragons.
I mean, I was vaguely aware of politics before that, but it hadn’t yet caught me as something worthy of interest or study.
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Exceptionally politically minded and engaged 3-5 year olds you both were
I am being a bit funny here but I was more engaged myself as a six year old than my peers