I don't recall any delusions or hallucinations in my life, unless I wanted to prank somebody.
Call it what you want, this statement was made to be insulting…and if not, if you were trying to be clever and funny, you failed and just look like a jerk.
It implies that every spiritual moment a person has is a delusion or a hallucination.
Science is not a belief system. It is a method of obtaining substantial theory through the observation and meticulous study of the natural and physical world. To compare such a method to hallucinations which people often consider to be a part of 'Spirituality' is a giant leap toward the support and encouragement of ignorance.
Congratulations on being the first person to give my post a thumb down, by the way.
This is a very insulting blanket statement.
This is a highly insulting and demeaning statement to make to those of us who even though may or may not consider ourselves “religious” certainly would identify with the idea of “spirituality”.
I realize you were resounding to someone else, but your response of grouping everyone together is ignorant.
I only implied once(? ^), and it was a post pretty much left alone and didn't bother anyone, as I expected. That's my own opinion, and I was not implying that people can't have spiritual moments, as they are personal to the individual.
"show your age" - what are you implying here? I wasn't picking anyone apart, until somebody decided to quote my own post and claim an opposing view (as well as thumb my post down). I was, as you might say, defending my post as I think everyone is allowed to when somebody disagrees with them openly. If you have any problems with my opinion, then provide your counter-argument without adding such sanctimonious (considering you accused me of 'picking people apart') implications.
The 'prove to me you're conscious' argument is a very old method of arguing against the scientific theories of how the human brain works. It also doesn't really relate directly to the ideas behind spirituality. I am no Neurologist, or Psychologist so I cannot give you the specifics, perhaps you should ask Sigmund Freud....if he were alive.
Science is a method, and not an ideology. It does not claim to know the answer to things without providing sufficient evidence, so I am not quite sure what you are trying to say by asking me about consciousness. I never claimed to know about spirituality, I gave my personal observation of the issue based on logic, and that there isn't any evidence to prove the existence of spirits/ghosts/supernatural powers.
If my age bothers you that much, try not to look at my personal information and concentrate on the thread.
Show you age means just what it means.
Don’t be insulting just to be insulting to a huge swath of people on this forum and then get all butt-hurt when someone says something.
No, you are not a Neurologist or Psychologist…and yet you make blanket statements backed by a few quotes by Sigmund Freud who had an oral fixation on his cigars and wanted to fuck his Mom…when he wasn’t high on Coke that is.
I can tell you that I have studied this subject far more in depth that you have yet to touch, I have assisted in more brain surgeries than I can count…does that make me somehow better or smarter than you - no, this is not a challenge to your intelligence JJJJJJA….this is calling out the very pigeon-hole that you think you are calling other’s out of.
How can you say that there is no spiritual life? Have you studied it?
Better yet…have you experienced it?
Because that it the reason many people end up believing in such things…they have real, actual experiences…many times backed up with witnesses.
Mass hysteria and hallucinations do not explain it all Sir.
