Zimmerman Trial

I think that some people aren't imbued with the "flight" response over the "fight" response, especially if the color of your skin already makes them feel like a target. I can see your point but it still smacks of victim blaming. The confrontation was pointless and nobody had to die, but Treyvon Martin didn't cause what happened, Zimmerman did.

That's right it was pointless. And Trevon should have ran to his Dads house. Or just sat there with Zimmerman. If you got nothing to hide stay put. Tell him where your Dad lives. Trey did not need to even engage this man. And if Zimmerman held him there that is false arrest right there. Unlawful detainment at least. He would have owned Zim's ass. Violence is never an option if you can escape. Too much risk in it for harm to your self. Not to mention that people carry weapons. And you never know who is packing what. It's best to avoid confrontations. Than create a situation that may unfortunately not turn out how you think it will. Better to avoid all that. Than to risk your own life and limb in a confrontation.

I am sorry but the young man in question does not sound like a kid who was afraid. It seems to me that he picked a fight with an armed guy. And got shot for it. Right or wrong that is what really happened here. All he had to do was stay cool and own Zimmerman's ass. He could have done it. But for some reason he hit Zim. And that was the end of his day, sadly....

I am saying Manslaughter. No guns for life. Zim can't be grown up enough to have one. I think his gun ego got the best of him. And Trey surprised him with a ass kicking. And got shot in response to the ass kicking. Zim is toast and he knows it. Some one is going to glory kill him. Someone from a gang. Just wait and see. Weird shit always happens after these kinds of things.
 
That's right it was pointless. And Trevon should have ran to his Dads house. Or just sat there with Zimmerman. If you got nothing to hide stay put. Tell him where your Dad lives. Trey did not need to even engage this man. And if Zimmerman held him there that is false arrest right there. Unlawful detainment at least. He would have owned Zim's ass. Violence is never an option if you can escape. Too much risk in it for harm to your self. Not to mention that people carry weapons. And you never know who is packing what. It's best to avoid confrontations. Than create a situation that may unfortunately not turn out how you think it will. Better to avoid all that. Than to risk your own life and limb in a confrontation.

I am sorry but the young man in question does not sound like a kid who was afraid. It seems to me that he picked a fight with an armed guy. And got shot for it. Right or wrong that is what really happened here. All he had to do was stay cool and own Zimmerman's ass. He could have done it. But for some reason he hit Zim. And that was the end of his day, sadly....

I am saying Manslaughter. No guns for life. Zim can't be grown up enough to have one. I think his gun ego got the best of him. And Trey surprised him with a ass kicking. And got shot in response to the ass kicking. Zim is toast and he knows it. Some one is going to glory kill him. Someone from a gang. Just wait and see. Weird shit always happens after these kinds of things.

911 told him not to follow, he did. Zim's part in this was pro-action , Trey was reaction. It really is that clear; without A, you wouldn't have had B.
 
911 told him not to follow, he did. Zim's part in this was pro-action , Trey was reaction. It really is that clear; without A, you wouldn't have had B.

Don't disagree with you. Zim had zero authority to even question Trey. And Trey could have ran away. If Zim shot him in the back running away that is murder. If Zim was holding him that is unlawful detainment and grounds for a law suit. Not even the Police can just question you for walking down a street. But they do it all the time. Comes with the badge. The authority trip. I believe that Zim was suffering from some of that too. I also think that Zim should know all the people in his neighborhood watch group. So something like this would not happen. You can't know who to watch if you don't know who lives in your neighborhood first. Zim is screwed for life. They will civil sue him next just like OJ. And they will find him guilty of causing his death. I am telling you some gang banger is gonna get him. It's just a matter of time.
 
Racism theater: How the media, Obama and the racism industry are tearing America apart for their own selfish gain


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Saturday, July 20, 2013
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger
Editor of NaturalNews.com

America is a nation in great need of healing. It is a nation subsisting on a food supply poisoned with GMOs, pesticides and herbicides, suffering under an epidemic of chronic disease and nearly bankrupted by the gutting of the U.S. economy by parasitic Washington bureaucrats.

Thanks to politicians like Obama, America has been driven to the brink of financial disaster, and thanks to former presidents like Bush, the "land of the free" has been turned into a dystopian surveillance police state (which Obama then multiplied and expanded). At numbers never before seen in U.S. history, everyday Americans are unemployed, living on government food aid (over 100 million Americans!), and seeing the "American dream" slip away from them more and more rapidly as the reality of the bleak future fully sets in.

America is a nation in desperate need of healing: nutritional healing, medical healing, economic healing and racial healing.

So what does Obama do? He fans the flames of racial hatred and joins with the "racism industry" to spread hatred and mistrust for his own political gain.

Obama assaults the psyche of America

He is beyond shameless... he is destructive to the very psyche of America. Just as the nation needs to come together for the common causes that unite us all -- GMOs, deadly vaccines, fluoride in the water, the Fed's grand money theft, etc. -- Obama keeps us divided along racial lines with trumped-up fear mongering and muckraking that's intentionally designed to keep America divided.

If America were a patient, Obama and the racism industry would be a deadly cancer spreading across the body, destroying healthy tissue and causing pain and suffering. Instead of encouraging Americans to call for peace, unity and understanding, Obama takes to the airwaves and claims racism remains so bad in America that Trayvon Martin could have been him, implying that even the President could have been shot by an angry Latino who the brain-damaged media continues to somehow call "white."

The myth of systematic oppression of blacks in America

The very premise that black people are systematically oppressed in modern-day America is a myth. America is a nation where the President is black, the Attorney General is black, most of the highest-paid athletes and sports figures are black, the highest-paid entertainers are black, and black people hold key positions as mayors, governors, senators and members of Congress. If anything, the racial composition of our nation and its political, entertainment and business leaders is absolute proof that the era of black oppression is ancient history in America. I'm not saying there aren't isolated cases of one-on-one racism that still go on, but the idea that there is systematic oppression of blacks is absurd.

Remember: It was white people who ultimately put Obama in office, their votes proving that white people wanted a black person to hold the highest office of the land. For that very person to now fan the flames of racial division and hatred is catalyzing damaging ripple effects far beyond what most people are even considering right now. Obama has set back racial tolerance three decades or more in America, actually fomenting new distrust where none existed. All across America, white people who used to be completely non-racist are now seeing the black community go completely and irrationally insane over a wholly contrived issue that has been viciously manipulated and shaped from the very beginning to spread hatred.

MSNBC, the propaganda division of the White House, continues to go out of its way spewing racism and hatred, just as directed by Obama who then joins in with his own racial division and hatred. The plan, of course, is to foment so much contrived hatred that America collapses into a massive race war that distracts everybody from the monumental failures of bad government.

Racism industry is the enemy of economic abundance

Detroit, a city largely run by Obama-supporting African-Americans, has collapsed into bankruptcy. The same kind of failed thinking that brought Detroit to its knees is now being unleashed by people like Al Sharpton -- the Don King of race-baiting hatred -- who is behind a new call for an economic boycott of Florida.

This idea, just like most of the racism industry's ideas, make absolutely no sense. What do all the people of Florida -- many of whom are black -- have to do with Trayvon Martin or George Zimmerman? Is the hatred now so intense that black America will boycott an entire state of many black-run businesses simply because they happen to be in the same geographic region where something went down that they don't like?

The irrationality has reached the point of insanity. The mere application of logic is now called "racist."

And why are blacks now lining up against "stand your ground" self defense laws when it is their own people who need those laws the most? The vast majority of murders in the USA are black-on-black crime, and when those murders are stopped, it's often the case that a responsible black man with a legal gun intervenes to STOP violence and save an innocent life. Standing your ground is the essence of family security and personal liberty, yet Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and black America now seem to have been hornswaggled into believing that the right of self defense should be stripped from everyone, including themselves.

I've never understood why black riots often result in people burning down their own neighborhoods and smashing out the windows of their own black-run businesses. But that's actually indicative of what we're also seeing with the desired economic boycott of Florida and the "racism industry" idea that self defense laws are somehow racist. The racism industry is, above all, an industry of black self destruction.

Self defense is now a "selective" right depending on your skin color

There would be absolutely zero issue in all this if an armed black man shot a crazed white junkie in self-defense, or if a black man shot a young black punk in self defense. Charges never would have even been filed. No, this contrived outrage is not about the right to self defense: it's about the selective targeting of races.

And that's where the insanity gets even worse: These racism industry black leaders are essentially saying that it's WRONG for an Hispanic to have self defense but it's right for a black man to have self defense.

No Latino, Hispanic or white person is allowed to exercise any form of self defense at all in America today -- but only if attacked by someone of dark skin color. When a white person is being grounded-and-pounded into the concrete by a gangster, the only politically correct response is to surrender and beg for more. Taking any action whatsoever -- including throwing a punch in return -- gets you immediately labeled a racist.

Racism theater

That's the insanity that Obama and the racism industry have created in America. It's a kind of mental sickness that has turned America into a self-destructing mental patient. And the real point of it all, of course, is to create massive contrived riots and "racism theater" that distract people from all the failures of big government: failed health care, failed economic policies, failed crony capitalism, failed international relations, failed wars in the Middle East, failed government-run education system, failed currencies, and even a failed system of justice where the worst criminals of all are the people running the government.

The spectacle of it all is mind-blowing. Because if you're like me, you aren't one bit racist and you've never called anyone a n----r or a c-----r. You've treated all people equally not by trying to do so, but because it always seemed natural to be open-minded about everyone, regardless of their physical appearance. And now people like you and I are suddenly being labeled "racists" because we legally own guns, or because we believe in the sacred right of self-defense, or because we disagree with Obamacare or some other failed White House policy.

Now, we are all racists, it seems, not because we judged somebody by their skin color -- which we didn't -- but because we don't agree with the politics of the black leaders. Now, "black" has become a dogma, not a race. It is a set of beliefs that you have to embrace, or you'll be called a racist. And those beliefs are wholly irrational, including things like the belief that a socialist-style government based on entitlement handouts to the entire population is the answer to economic prosperity. Somehow, black America went from completely distrusting government in the 1960's to completely worshipping government today. And if you want to see where that leads, just look at Detroit, which is a microcosm of where America is headed soon.

America needs racial healing and unity, not division

I have been called a racist for calling for racial unity in America. The "racism theater" is now so insanely stupid that if you aren't publicly calling for the murder of George Zimmerman, then you are labeled an outright racist.

In other words, you must now call for violence against "White Hispanics" in order to be politically correct according to the new standard of black dogma.

These are the kinds of insanities that have been witnessed, historically, right before nations fell into collapse. And I believe America is on the verge of self destruction, and that it is being accelerated toward that by Obama himself.

If there's any marching that really needs to be done in America today, it should be a march against media manipulation of racial hatred. Or perhaps and march against the President abusing his office to destroy America.

Instead, black America is marching today across 100 cities, calling for... something. They want "justice" which, in their definition, means the murder of Zimmerman, his family and all his supporters. You are witnessing the complete downfall of law and real justice in America, replaced by mob rule.

Why you will never see another black President in America

The backlash against all this will be enormous. Obama has done enormous damage to the idea that a black President can bring unity and healing to America. When white people initially put Obama in office in 2008, they were thinking, "Let's put a black man in the White House and demonstrate how tolerant and color blind we really are as a nation."

But now, many of those same white people are being called racists by the people closest to the President. Now, Obama is fanning the flamed of racial division and hatred, betraying the very reason why so many white people voted him into office.

The memory of this nightmare of a presidency will last for at least a generation, maybe longer. Almost no white or Hispanic person living today will ever vote for a black president again because they are seeing how their good intentions have been twisted and betrayed. Instead of racial unity, we got racial division and hatred spewed by the President himself.

Black people are 12% of the U.S. population. The other 88% are mostly Latinos and Whites, both of which have been viciously smeared and vilified throughout the TMGZ trial. Those 88% are not going to voting for a black president ever again.

And thanks to Obama, race-based paranoia is now at an all-time high in America. Distrust between those of different races has reached a frightening peak, and there are race-based beatings and shootings happening all across the country right now because of all this. (It's mostly young black kids beating up whites and Hispanics.)

Even as more wise black cultural leaders like Bill Cosby are calling for peace and calm, it's people like Al Sharpton -- whose very power depends on continued racial hatred -- who are whipping up division and paranoia. For their own political power, they will drive America to the brink of a race war, and nothing bad that happens is ever their fault. It's always the fault of "cracker ass whiteys" who are the devil, they say.

Well, if I'm the devil, then Rachel Jeantel is Ralph Waldo Emerson.

The media that didn't cover the March Against Monsanto is now headlining the racism industry's contrived marches

And now the real truth finally comes out: The same media which outright refused to cover the March Against Monsanto -- encompassing 450+ cities around the world -- is going to spend the weekend headlining the far smaller marches that have been contrived by the racism industry.

Once again, this completely proves that the media is itself a contrived affair that's spoon-feeding you racism and hatred while making sure you never see anything that really matters (like GMOs, fluoride, vaccine deaths, chemtrails, etc.).

Just as America is in desperate need of truth and healing, the mainstream media is censoring truth and broadcasting racism lies and hatred -- all part of the agenda of "racism theater."

If we need to be marching against anything in America, it's a march against the media, an industry of such vicious mind control and false propaganda that it may very well bring this nation to its knees. (All while advertising erection pills and diet soda.)

It's already obvious to me that the fall of America is now inevitable. We have crossed the point of no return. The real issue now is whether we have a chance of rebuilding after the collapse.

I'm currently reading a new book called America 3.0 which attempts to answer that question. It argues the future is bright and that America can transition into a system of smaller government and more freedom, where power is revoked from central authority and re-distributed locally. I'm not yet sure if I agree with the book, as I've only started reading it. But it is at least interesting that such ideas are being seriously discussed.

No matter what happens, I will help rebuild America after the collapse. I love America. I love my country. And I will not be suckered into the contrived hatred that Obama and the media are spewing with all their inflammatory hate and evil.

When this is all over, we must make a concerted effort to make sure the history books tell the true story of how a black president led America into a deep racial divide ON PURPOSE, betraying the trust that was placed in him by non-racist white people who wanted to see America undergo some racial healing, not "racism theater."


 
My neighborhood had a string of break-ins that lasted months and my home was broken into twice, one I happened to stop because I walked in on them. THe house across the street, one door down, and two further down the street all in the same month with more homes as time went on. When something like that happens as a string and you feel like your area is targeted, you go into a hyper-vigilant mode...even I followed some suspicious people in my neighborhood the weeks following the break-ins which I realize now was stupid but it was a strange reaction I had to defend my home. What qualified as suspicious to me at the time is suspect to people picking apart (large vans, older vehicles, etc) Of course if 911 told me not to follow someone, I wouldn't follow but it's not an authority thing. It's a normal reaction to want to defend and protect your living space, one I experienced myself.
 
My neighborhood had a string of break-ins that lasted months and my home was broken into twice, one I happened to stop because I walked in on them. THe house across the street, one door down, and two further down the street all in the same month with more homes as time went on. When something like that happens as a string and you feel like your area is targeted, you go into a hyper-vigilant mode...even I followed some suspicious people in my neighborhood the weeks following the break-ins which I realize now was stupid but it was a strange reaction I had to defend my home. What qualified as suspicious to me at the time is suspect to people picking apart (large vans, older vehicles, etc) Of course if 911 told me not to follow someone, I wouldn't follow but it's not an authority thing. It's a normal reaction to want to defend and protect your living space, one I experienced myself.

Yeah 911 is being used by the government as an excuse for all sorts of crap that is basically stripping away the rights and freedoms of ordinary citizens NOT 'terrorists'

Its a horrible thing having your home broken into. It leaves you with all sorts of emotions.

I totally recognise peoples right to defend themselves and their families but at the same time i also see that increased levels of theft are often a social problem caused by an unequal society that leaves many of its people out of the consumer dream and in poverty

Its easy to get angry at the drug addicts that do these desperate acts but I think if people want to tackle the social problems at their root then they really need to direct their attention to the biggest theives of all: the 8 families that are behind the federal reserve bank, the 4 big banks and the 4 big oil companies:

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These are the people behind the poverty, the inequality, the unemployment, the economic hardship, the government spying programs such as Prism and all the wars we are always dragged into over oil

These are the guys who pay for the politicians political campaigns
 
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I understand. I have had my stuff broken into before and stolen. It makes you mad. Just a few weeks ago my car window was broken and they got a bunch of stuff. Locks and windows only keep honest people honest. And the Cops? Well they just don't care....
 
http://theinternetpost.net/2013/07/19/the-federal-reserve-cartel-the-eight-families-2/

The Four Horsemen of Banking (Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup and Wells Fargo) own the Four Horsemen of Oil (Exxon Mobil, Royal Dutch/Shell, BP and Chevron Texaco); in tandem with Deutsche Bank, BNP, Barclays and other European old money behemoths. But their monopoly over the global economy does not end at the edge of the oil patch.
According to company 10K filings to the SEC, the Four Horsemen of Banking are among the top ten stock holders of virtually every Fortune 500 corporation.[1]
So who then are the stockholders in these money center banks?
This information is guarded much more closely. My queries to bank regulatory agencies regarding stock ownership in the top 25 US bank holding companies were given Freedom of Information Act status, before being denied on “national security” grounds. This is rather ironic, since many of the bank’s stockholders reside in Europe.
One important repository for the wealth of the global oligarchy that owns these bank holding companies is US Trust Corporation – founded in 1853 and now owned by Bank of America. A recent US Trust Corporate Director and Honorary Trustee was Walter Rothschild. Other directors included Daniel Davison of JP Morgan Chase, Richard Tucker of Exxon Mobil, Daniel Roberts of Citigroup and Marshall Schwartz of Morgan Stanley. [2]
J. W. McCallister, an oil industry insider with House of Saud connections, wrote in The Grim Reaper that information he acquired from Saudi bankers cited 80% ownership of the New York Federal Reserve Bank- by far the most powerful Fed branch- by just eight families, four of which reside in the US. They are the Goldman Sachs, Rockefellers, Lehmans and Kuhn Loebs of New York; the Rothschilds of Paris and London; the Warburgs of Hamburg; the Lazards of Paris; and the Israel Moses Seifs of Rome.
CPA Thomas D. Schauf corroborates McCallister’s claims, adding that ten banks control all twelve Federal Reserve Bank branches. He names N.M. Rothschild of London, Rothschild Bank of Berlin, Warburg Bank of Hamburg, Warburg Bank of Amsterdam, Lehman Brothers of New York, Lazard Brothers of Paris, Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York, Israel Moses Seif Bank of Italy, Goldman Sachs of New York and JP Morgan Chase Bank of New York. Schauf lists William Rockefeller, Paul Warburg, Jacob Schiff and James Stillman as individuals who own large shares of the Fed. [3] The Schiffs are insiders at Kuhn Loeb. The Stillmans are Citigroup insiders, who married into the Rockefeller clan at the turn of the century.
Eustace Mullins came to the same conclusions in his book The Secrets of the Federal Reserve, in which he displays charts connecting the Fed and its member banks to the families of Rothschild, Warburg, Rockefeller and the others. [4]
The control that these banking families exert over the global economy cannot be overstated and is quite intentionally shrouded in secrecy. Their corporate media arm is quick to discredit any information exposing this private central banking cartel as “conspiracy theory”. Yet the facts remain.



The House of Morgan
The Federal Reserve Bank was born in 1913, the same year US banking scion J. Pierpont Morgan died and the Rockefeller Foundation was formed. The House of Morgan presided over American finance from the corner of Wall Street and Broad, acting as quasi-US central bank since 1838, when George Peabody founded it in London.
Peabody was a business associate of the Rothschilds. In 1952 Fed researcher Eustace Mullins put forth the supposition that the Morgans were nothing more than Rothschild agents. Mullins wrote that the Rothschilds, “…preferred to operate anonymously in the US behind the facade of J.P. Morgan & Company”. [5]
Author Gabriel Kolko stated, “Morgan’s activities in 1895-1896 in selling US gold bonds in Europe were based on an alliance with the House of Rothschild.” [6]
The Morgan financial octopus wrapped its tentacles quickly around the globe. Morgan Grenfell operated in London. Morgan et Ce ruled Paris. The Rothschild’s Lambert cousins set up Drexel & Company in Philadelphia.
The House of Morgan catered to the Astors, DuPonts, Guggenheims, Vanderbilts and Rockefellers. It financed the launch of AT&T, General Motors, General Electric and DuPont. Like the London-based Rothschild and Barings banks, Morgan became part of the power structure in many countries.
By 1890 the House of Morgan was lending to Egypt’s central bank, financing Russian railroads, floating Brazilian provincial government bonds and funding Argentine public works projects. A recession in 1893 enhanced Morgan’s power. That year Morgan saved the US government from a bank panic, forming a syndicate to prop up government reserves with a shipment of $62 million worth of Rothschild gold. [7]
Morgan was the driving force behind Western expansion in the US, financing and controlling West-bound railroads through voting trusts. In 1879 Cornelius Vanderbilt’s Morgan-financed New York Central Railroad gave preferential shipping rates to John D. Rockefeller’s budding Standard Oil monopoly, cementing the Rockefeller/Morgan relationship.
The House of Morgan now fell under Rothschild and Rockefeller family control. A New York Herald headline read, “Railroad Kings Form Gigantic Trust”. J. Pierpont Morgan, who once stated, “Competition is a sin”, now opined gleefully, “Think of it. All competing railroad traffic west of St. Louis placed in the control of about thirty men.”[8]
Morgan and Edward Harriman’s banker Kuhn Loeb held a monopoly over the railroads, while banking dynasties Lehman, Goldman Sachs and Lazard joined the Rockefellers in controlling the US industrial base. [9]
In 1903 Banker’s Trust was set up by the Eight Families. Benjamin Strong of Banker’s Trust was the first Governor of the New York Federal Reserve Bank. The 1913 creation of the Fed fused the power of the Eight Families to the military and diplomatic might of the US government. If their overseas loans went unpaid, the oligarchs could now deploy US Marines to collect the debts. Morgan, Chase and Citibank formed an international lending syndicate.
The House of Morgan was cozy with the British House of Windsor and the Italian House of Savoy. The Kuhn Loebs, Warburgs, Lehmans, Lazards, Israel Moses Seifs and Goldman Sachs also had close ties to European royalty. By 1895 Morgan controlled the flow of gold in and out of the US. The first American wave of mergers was in its infancy and was being promoted by the bankers. In 1897 there were sixty-nine industrial mergers. By 1899 there were twelve-hundred. In 1904 John Moody – founder of Moody’s Investor Services – said it was impossible to talk of Rockefeller and Morgan interests as separate. [10]
Public distrust of the combine spread. Many considered them traitors working for European old money. Rockefeller’s Standard Oil, Andrew Carnegie’s US Steel and Edward Harriman’s railroads were all financed by banker Jacob Schiff at Kuhn Loeb, who worked closely with the European Rothschilds.
Several Western states banned the bankers. Populist preacher William Jennings Bryan was thrice the Democratic nominee for President from 1896 -1908. The central theme of his anti-imperialist campaign was that America was falling into a trap of “financial servitude to British capital”. Teddy Roosevelt defeated Bryan in 1908, but was forced by this spreading populist wildfire to enact the Sherman Anti-Trust Act. He then went after the Standard Oil Trust.
In 1912 the Pujo hearings were held, addressing concentration of power on Wall Street. That same year Mrs. Edward Harriman sold her substantial shares in New York’s Guaranty Trust Bank to J.P. Morgan, creating Morgan Guaranty Trust. Judge Louis Brandeis convinced President Woodrow Wilson to call for an end to interlocking board directorates. In 1914 the Clayton Anti-Trust Act was passed.
Jack Morgan – J. Pierpont’s son and successor – responded by calling on Morgan clients Remington and Winchester to increase arms production. He argued that the US needed to enter WWI. Goaded by the Carnegie Foundation and other oligarchy fronts, Wilson accommodated. As Charles Tansill wrote in America Goes to War, “Even before the clash of arms, the French firm of Rothschild Freres cabled to Morgan & Company in New York suggesting the flotation of a loan of $100 million, a substantial part of which was to be left in the US to pay for French purchases of American goods.”
The House of Morgan financed half the US war effort, while receiving commissions for lining up contractors like GE, Du Pont, US Steel, Kennecott and ASARCO. All were Morgan clients. Morgan also financed the British Boer War in South Africa and the Franco-Prussian War. The 1919 Paris Peace Conference was presided over by Morgan, which led both German and Allied reconstruction efforts. [11]
In the 1930’s populism resurfaced in America after Goldman Sachs, Lehman Bank and others profited from the Crash of 1929. [12] House Banking Committee Chairman Louis McFadden (D-NY) said of the Great Depression, “It was no accident. It was a carefully contrived occurrence…The international bankers sought to bring about a condition of despair here so they might emerge as rulers of us all”.
Sen. Gerald Nye (D-ND) chaired a munitions investigation in 1936. Nye concluded that the House of Morgan had plunged the US into WWI to protect loans and create a booming arms industry. Nye later produced a document titled The Next War, which cynically referred to “the old goddess of democracy trick”, through which Japan could be used to lure the US into WWII.
In 1937 Interior Secretary Harold Ickes warned of the influence of “America’s 60 Families”. Historian Ferdinand Lundberg later penned a book of the exact same title. Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas decried, “Morgan influence…the most pernicious one in industry and finance today.”
Jack Morgan responded by nudging the US towards WWII. Morgan had close relations with the Iwasaki and Dan families – Japan’s two wealthiest clans – who have owned Mitsubishi and Mitsui, respectively, since the companies emerged from 17th Century shogunates. When Japan invaded Manchuria, slaughtering Chinese peasants at Nanking, Morgan downplayed the incident. Morgan also had close relations with Italian fascist Benito Mussolini, while German Nazi Dr. Hjalmer Schacht was a Morgan Bank liaison during WWII. After the war Morgan representatives met with Schacht at the Bank of International Settlements (BIS) in Basel, Switzerland. [13]


The House of Rockefeller
BIS is the most powerful bank in the world, a global central bank for the Eight Families who control the private central banks of almost all Western and developing nations. The first President of BIS was Rockefeller banker Gates McGarrah- an official at Chase Manhattan and the Federal Reserve. McGarrah was the grandfather of former CIA director Richard Helms. The Rockefellers- like the Morgans- had close ties to London. David Icke writes in Children of the Matrix, that the Rockefellers and Morgans were just “gofers” for the European Rothschilds. [14]
BIS is owned by the Federal Reserve, Bank of England, Bank of Italy, Bank of Canada, Swiss National Bank, Nederlandsche Bank, Bundesbank and Bank of France.
Historian Carroll Quigley wrote in his epic book Tragedy and Hope that BIS was part of a plan, “to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole…to be controlled in a feudalistic fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert by secret agreements.”
The US government had a historical distrust of BIS, lobbying unsuccessfully for its demise at the 1944 post-WWII Bretton Woods Conference. Instead the Eight Families’ power was exacerbated, with the Bretton Woods creation of the IMF and the World Bank. The US Federal Reserve only took shares in BIS in September 1994. [15]
BIS holds at least 10% of monetary reserves for at least 80 of the world’s central banks, the IMF and other multilateral institutions. It serves as financial agent for international agreements, collects information on the global economy and serves as lender of last resort to prevent global financial collapse.
BIS promotes an agenda of monopoly capitalist fascism. It gave a bridge loan to Hungary in the 1990’s to ensure privatization of that country’s economy. It served as conduit for Eight Families funding of Adolf Hitler- led by the Warburg’s J. Henry Schroeder and Mendelsohn Bank of Amsterdam. Many researchers assert that BIS is at the nadir of global drug money laundering. [16]
It is no coincidence that BIS is headquartered in Switzerland, favorite hiding place for the wealth of the global aristocracy and headquarters for the P-2 Italian Freemason’s Alpina Lodge and Nazi International. Other institutions which the Eight Families control include the World Economic Forum, the International Monetary Conference and the World Trade Organization.
Bretton Woods was a boon to the Eight Families. The IMF and World Bank were central to this “new world order”. In 1944 the first World Bank bonds were floated by Morgan Stanley and First Boston. The French Lazard family became more involved in House of Morgan interests. Lazard Freres- France’s biggest investment bank- is owned by the Lazard and David-Weill families- old Genoese banking scions represented by Michelle Davive. A recent Chairman and CEO of Citigroup was Sanford Weill.
In 1968 Morgan Guaranty launched Euro-Clear, a Brussels-based bank clearing system for Eurodollar securities. It was the first such automated endeavor. Some took to calling Euro-Clear “The Beast”. Brussels serves as headquarters for the new European Central Bank and for NATO. In 1973 Morgan officials met secretly in Bermuda to illegally resurrect the old House of Morgan, twenty years before Glass Steagal Act was repealed. Morgan and the Rockefellers provided the financial backing for Merrill Lynch, boosting it into the Big 5 of US investment banking. Merrill is now part of Bank of America.
John D. Rockefeller used his oil wealth to acquire Equitable Trust, which had gobbled up several large banks and corporations by the 1920’s. The Great Depression helped consolidate Rockefeller’s power. His Chase Bank merged with Kuhn Loeb’s Manhattan Bank to form Chase Manhattan, cementing a long-time family relationship. The Kuhn-Loeb’s had financed – along with Rothschilds – Rockefeller’s quest to become king of the oil patch. National City Bank of Cleveland provided John D. with the money needed to embark upon his monopolization of the US oil industry. The bank was identified in Congressional hearings as being one of three Rothschild-owned banks in the US during the 1870’s, when Rockefeller first incorporated as Standard Oil of Ohio. [17]
One Rockefeller Standard Oil partner was Edward Harkness, whose family came to control Chemical Bank. Another was James Stillman, whose family controlled Manufacturers Hanover Trust. Both banks have merged under the JP Morgan Chase umbrella. Two of James Stillman’s daughters married two of William Rockefeller’s sons. The two families control a big chunk of Citigroup as well. [18]
In the insurance business, the Rockefellers control Metropolitan Life, Equitable Life, Prudential and New York Life. Rockefeller banks control 25% of all assets of the 50 largest US commercial banks and 30% of all assets of the 50 largest insurance companies. [19] Insurance companies- the first in the US was launched by Freemasons through their Woodman’s of America- play a key role in the Bermuda drug money shuffle.
Companies under Rockefeller control include Exxon Mobil, Chevron Texaco, BP Amoco, Marathon Oil, Freeport McMoran, Quaker Oats, ASARCO, United, Delta, Northwest, ITT, International Harvester, Xerox, Boeing, Westinghouse, Hewlett-Packard, Honeywell, International Paper, Pfizer, Motorola, Monsanto, Union Carbide and General Foods.
The Rockefeller Foundation has close financial ties to both Ford and Carnegie Foundations. Other family philanthropic endeavors include Rockefeller Brothers Fund, Rockefeller Institute for Medical Research, General Education Board, Rockefeller University and the University of Chicago- which churns out a steady stream of far right economists as apologists for international capital, including Milton Friedman.
The family owns 30 Rockefeller Plaza, where the national Christmas tree is lighted every year, and Rockefeller Center. David Rockefeller was instrumental in the construction of the World Trade Center towers. The main Rockefeller family home is a hulking complex in upstate New York known as Pocantico Hills. They also own a 32-room 5th Avenue duplex in Manhattan, a mansion in Washington, DC, Monte Sacro Ranch in Venezuela, coffee plantations in Ecuador, several farms in Brazil, an estate at Seal Harbor, Maine and resorts in the Caribbean, Hawaii and Puerto Rico. [20]
The Dulles and Rockefeller families are cousins. Allen Dulles created the CIA, assisted the Nazis, covered up the Kennedy hit from his Warren Commission perch and struck a deal with the Muslim Brotherhood to create mind-controlled assassins. [21]
Brother John Foster Dulles presided over the phony Goldman Sachs trusts before the 1929 stock market crash and helped his brother overthrow governments in Iran and Guatemala. Both were Skull & Bones, Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) insiders and 33rd Degree Masons. [22]
The Rockefellers were instrumental in forming the depopulation-oriented Club of Rome at their family estate in Bellagio, Italy. Their Pocantico Hills estate gave birth to the Trilateral Commission. The family is a major funder of the eugenics movement which spawned Hitler, human cloning and the current DNA obsession in US scientific circles.
John Rockefeller Jr. headed the Population Council until his death. [23] His namesake son is a Senator from West Virginia. Brother Winthrop Rockefeller was Lieutenant Governor of Arkansas and remains the most powerful man in that state. In an October 1975 interview with Playboy magazine, Vice-President Nelson Rockefeller- who was also Governor of New York- articulated his family’s patronizing worldview, “I am a great believer in planning- economic, social, political, military, total world planning.”
But of all the Rockefeller brothers, it is Trilateral Commission (TC) founder and Chase Manhattan Chairman David who has spearheaded the family’s fascist agenda on a global scale. He defended the Shah of Iran, the South African apartheid regime and the Chilean Pinochet junta. He was the biggest financier of the CFR, the TC and (during the Vietnam War) the Committee for an Effective and Durable Peace in Asia- a contract bonanza for those who made their living off the conflict.
Nixon asked him to be Secretary of Treasury, but Rockefeller declined the job, knowing his power was much greater at the helm of the Chase. Author Gary Allen writes in The Rockefeller File that in 1973, “David Rockefeller met with twenty-seven heads of state, including the rulers of Russia and Red China.”
Following the 1975 Nugan Hand Bank/CIA coup against Australian Prime Minister Gough Whitlam, his British Crown-appointed successor Malcolm Fraser sped to the US, where he met with President Gerald Ford after conferring with David Rockefeller. [24]
 
Yeah 911 is being used by the government as an excuse for all sorts of crap that is basically stripping away the rights and freedoms of ordinary citizens NOT 'terrorists'

Its a horrible thing having your home broken into. It leaves you with all sorts of emotions.

I totally recognise peoples right to defend themselves and their families but at the same time i also see that increased levels of theft are often a social problem caused by an unequal society that leaves many of its people out of the consumer dream and in poverty

Its easy to get angry at the drug addicts that do these desperate acts but I think if people want to tackle the social problems at their root then they really need to direct their attention to the biggest theives of all the 8 families that are behind the federal reserve bank, the 4 big banks and the 4 big oil companies:

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These are the people behind the poverty, the inequality, the unemployment, the economic hardship, the government spying programs such as Prism and all the wars we are always dragged into over oil

Yep and most Americans will just sit back and do nothing about it. They have been duped since the civil war. The Southern States are under occupation the war never ended This situation in Detroit has me worried. Cause what if the whole Fed goes down then who will get the assets? We are assets. And so is our oil and National Forests and all the other things the Government is supposed to be holding in trust for us the tax payers. Money is fake. We have been bought and sold with fake money and most will never realize it until its too late.
 
I understand. I have had my stuff broken into before and stolen. It makes you mad. Just a few weeks ago my car window was broken and they got a bunch of stuff. Locks and windows only keep honest people honest. And the Cops? Well they just don't care....

There have been a number of newspaper articles about how UK police don't investigate a large number of crimes:

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2011/07/30/one-in-three-crimes-not-i_n_913993.html

The number of investigative detectives (the ones who actually do detective work!) in the UK police has dropped in recent years

We are seeing a scandal in the UK where financial institutions and insurers have been spying on the public and the police special task force known as 'SOCA' which was set up in recent years as our version of your FBI is refusing to release the names of the guilty companies

So despite the fact many journalists have been recently arrested for a phone hacking scandal the big corporations are being protected by the police in this latest scandal!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...estigators-8718049.html?origin=internalSearch

The police don't work for the people. The function of the police is to protect the fascist bankers. The police are freemasonic foot soldiers.

The black and white chequered floor of the masonic temples is right there on their hats along with a star with a crown on it symbolising the royal blood line that freemasonry is sworn to protect:

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Here is an interview with an ex policeman where he explains that the police are not permitted to investigate crimes in the City of London (banking district) without permission from the secretary of state who constantly blocks such investigations:

[video=youtube;_c7mVCtKP90]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c7mVCtKP90[/video]
 
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Yep and most Americans will just sit back and do nothing about it. They have been duped since the civil war. The Southern States are under occupation the war never ended This situation in Detroit has me worried. Cause what if the whole Fed goes down then who will get the assets? We are assets. And so is our oil and National Forests and all the other things the Government is supposed to be holding in trust for us the tax payers. Money is fake. We have been bought and sold with fake money and most will never realize it until its too late.

Totally!

It is looking like the banking cabal are actually trying to bring about a financial collapse so that they can centralise banking power even more

The banking crisis they created in cyprus where the banks just froze peoples accounts and then grabbed the money is looking like a practise run for the banks in Europe and the US

So whereas when a bank fails and the government allocates a certain amount of public funds to give to them to keep them afloat it is called a 'bank bailout' a 'bank bail in' is when they just freeze peoples accounts and then raid the depositors accounts directly

They can legally do this:

According to the Washington based Institute of International Finance (IIF) (right) which represents the consensus of the global financial establishment, “the Cyprus approach of hitting depositors and creditors when banks fail, would likely become a model for dealing with collapses elsewhere in Europe.” (Economic Times, March 27, 2013).

I wouldn't keep my money in any of their banks!
 
I am too poor to have any money in their banks. lol

Then you need not worry as you have nothing to lose :)

I read a buddhist book recently that said the poor worry about finding food to eat and shelter whilst the rich worry about losing their wealth and about being attacked by the poor....the point being that both sides have their problems

It was illustrating this point to encourage compassion through an understanding that all people are suffering for one reason or another

The solution as i see it would be to share things out better....but the rich aren't going to agree to that and there's the catch 22
 
Article saying that the London police don't investigate 45% of crimes reported by the public!!!!

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/07/16/314053/london-police-ignore-45-of-crimes/

What the hell are the police doing for all the money that we the taxpayers pay them? Wait i know the answer to that, they are laying speed traps for people commuting to work....cos clearly....its speeders who are ruining the economy not the banksters!

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[video=youtube;Jb_0GVecvFc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Jb_0GVecvFc[/video]
 
My neighborhood had a string of break-ins that lasted months and my home was broken into twice, one I happened to stop because I walked in on them. THe house across the street, one door down, and two further down the street all in the same month with more homes as time went on. When something like that happens as a string and you feel like your area is targeted, you go into a hyper-vigilant mode...even I followed some suspicious people in my neighborhood the weeks following the break-ins which I realize now was stupid but it was a strange reaction I had to defend my home. What qualified as suspicious to me at the time is suspect to people picking apart (large vans, older vehicles, etc) Of course if 911 told me not to follow someone, I wouldn't follow but it's not an authority thing. It's a normal reaction to want to defend and protect your living space, one I experienced myself.

As an israeli i can tell you that i am always aware of what goes on in the corner of my eye, as terror might happen any second anywhere here. However, it's important to not get paranoid and start following / demonizing every arab i see on the street. And i believe people with guns should think 10 times before following someone like that.
I think the killer should get a life sentence.
 
People talking about fear, mistrust, etc. need to watch this. One of the best scenes in one of the best movies of one of the best stories:

[video=youtube_share;wF3FX43F-7Y]http://youtu.be/wF3FX43F-7Y[/video]

If your reaction to violence is that of violence, how are you ever supposed to rise above it?
 
People talking about fear, mistrust, etc. need to watch this. One of the best scenes in one of the best movies of one of the best stories:

[video=youtube_share;wF3FX43F-7Y]http://youtu.be/wF3FX43F-7Y[/video]

If your reaction to violence is that of violence, how are you ever supposed to rise above it?


You can't. But if you don't meet violence with violence how will you continue to live?...
 
You can't. But if you don't meet violence with violence how will you continue to live?...

Of course you can meet violence with non violence. Violence is not the use of force. Force is power. Power is not violence. Violence is using power / force with hatred.

Edit: Once some guy jumped me tried to hit me in the face, i just moved his hands doing my tai chi thing for a good 30 seconds or so and the guy was just outraged and amazed at the same time. I didn't hit him, didn't even scratch him, just made his hands dance all over the place. He just left the room and never messed with me again.
 
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