Corona / Wuhan virus

MoonFlier said:
opinion, and I'm far from an expert on this: drop all manufacturing in china. There are other places that would love our business as well as us being able to manufacture on our own, with cleaner and safer factories than they ever had.
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Not possible. Other countries are too vulnerable at this point. This should be a lesson to diversify economic sources as much as possible.
 
MoonFlier said:
My opinion, and I'm far from an expert on this: drop all manufacturing in china. There are other places that would love our business as well as us being able to manufacture on our own, with cleaner and safer factories than they ever had.
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mintoots said:
Not possible. Other countries are too vulnerable at this point. This should be a lesson to diversify economic sources as much as possible.
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@mintoots is correct.

Its also the economic factors.

If I build a house worth $10,000, after labour, taxes and whatnot I have $5,000 left to buy materials.

If China is selling the materials for $3,000 and other countries for $4,500 my profit could change from $1,500 per house to $500 if I can't use Chinese materials.

Further more if it costs $5,500 to buy from anywhere other than China, I go bankrupt because my businesses cannot afford to spent that much for materials.

A lot of businesses operate on razor thin margins and when those margins get reduce to zero, businesses collapse.

You could just not operate on razor thin margins, but where does the money come from?

The reason its so cheap in China is, amongst other things, the lax health and safety laws. To compete with China you need to drop health and safety to their level. Do we really want to throw away protections for workers that have taken decades to build up?

The other problem is that once those businesses collapse, no NEW businesses can aford to thake their place, so you lose entire industries that way.

China has been the engine of the world for a reason. The only way to stop that is for China's health and saftey laws to improve and that would hamper business so why would anyone do that?
 
Another corona cruise US navy edition.. https://www.zerohedge.com/health/un...-us-carrier-diverts-guam-covid-19-cases-spike

I greatly dislike that Trump along with all the usual wall street types are prioritizing the economy over human life and the outbreak is yet to reach its peak as far as the first wave is concerned. The next three to six weeks are going to be very difficult for what most are able to handle with deaths well into the thousands just like Italy and Spain so the rush to normal is suicide.
 
The issue needs to be taken down to the root, once we are all safe...

Those wet markets have got to be closed, forever. Preparedness in our medical systems prioritized..

First SARS, now Covid. Wake up China, wake up Mongolia.

Fell asleep and woke to a flood of news. I already suffer from diagnosed anxiety, but also have endured many fires and have forged great faith. Yet seeing such suffering and the fear that has tried to grip me since I was a little girl - now gripping the whole world makes me weep. :(

Let us all pray for peace. For as the bible calls it.. 'the peace that surpasses all understanding'. I know not everyone here believes as I do and I mean no judgement or offense in sharing verse that helps me through life's tribulations.. but if my sentiment & the quotes help even one through this struggle then the rest who are uninterested - please simply ignore..❤

It's a common theme throughout scripture.. to walk by faith and not by physical sight. To trust is so hard, believe me.. I know. But if we try to support each other, support the heroes in the hospitals- even with our prayers, helping however we can, and have a speck of faith.. we will get through this. Let us also be here for one another on the forum. We are all going through this together.. psychologically and emotionally.

Proverbs 3:5-6
5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart,
and do not lean on your own understanding.
6 In all your ways acknowledge him,
and he will make straight your paths.

Corinthians 5:7
7 For we walk by faith, not by sight.

*Hugs* to every person here.❤
 
Misty said:
The issue needs to be taken down to the root, once we are all safe...

Those wet markets have got to be closed, forever. Preparedness in our medical systems prioritized..

First SARS, now Covid. Wake up China, wake up Mongolia.

Fell asleep and woke to a flood of news. I already suffer from diagnosed anxiety, but also have endured many fires and have forged great faith. Yet seeing such suffering and the fear that has tried to grip me since I was a little girl - now gripping the whole world makes me weep. :(

Let us all pray for peace. For as the bible calls it.. 'the peace that surpasses all understanding'. I know not everyone here believes as I do and I mean no judgement or offense in sharing verse that helps me through life's tribulations.. but if my sentiment & the quotes help even one through this struggle then the rest who are uninterested - please simply ignore..❤

It's a common theme throughout scripture.. to walk by faith and not by physical sight. To trust is so hard, believe me.. I know. But if we try to support each other, support the heroes in the hospitals- even with our prayers, helping however we can, and have a speck of faith.. we will get through this. Let us also be here for one another on the forum. We are all going through this together.. psychologically and emotionally.

Proverbs 3:5-6
5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart,
and do not lean on your own understanding.
6 In all your ways acknowledge him,
and he will make straight your paths.

Corinthians 5:7
7 For we walk by faith, not by sight.

*Hugs* to every person here.❤
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❤
 
Misty said:
The issue needs to be taken down to the root, once we are all safe...

Those wet markets have got to be closed, forever. Preparedness in our medical systems prioritized..

First SARS, now Covid. Wake up China, wake up Mongolia.

Fell asleep and woke to a flood of news. I already suffer from diagnosed anxiety, but also have endured many fires and have forged great faith. Yet seeing such suffering and the fear that has tried to grip me since I was a little girl - now gripping the whole world makes me weep. :(

Let us all pray for peace. For as the bible calls it.. 'the peace that surpasses all understanding'. I know not everyone here believes as I do and I mean no judgement or offense in sharing verse that helps me through life's tribulations.. but if my sentiment & the quotes help even one through this struggle then the rest who are uninterested - please simply ignore..❤

It's a common theme throughout scripture.. to walk by faith and not by physical sight. To trust is so hard, believe me.. I know. But if we try to support each other, support the heroes in the hospitals- even with our prayers, helping however we can, and have a speck of faith.. we will get through this. Let us also be here for one another on the forum. We are all going through this together.. psychologically and emotionally.

Proverbs 3:5-6
5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart,
and do not lean on your own understanding.
6 In all your ways acknowledge him,
and he will make straight your paths.

Corinthians 5:7
7 For we walk by faith, not by sight.

*Hugs* to every person here.❤
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yes to all. . love this. .
 
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1 God is our refuge and strength,
an ever-present help in trouble.
2 Therefore we will not fear, though the earth give way
and the mountains fall into the heart of the sea,
3 though its waters roar and foam
and the mountains quake with their surging.c]">[c]

4 There is a river whose streams make glad the city of God,
the holy place where the Most High dwells.
5 God is within her, she will not fall;
God will help her at break of day.
6 Nations are in uproar, kingdoms fall;
he lifts his voice, the earth melts.

7 The Lord Almighty is with us;
the God of Jacob is our fortress.

8 Come and see what the Lord has done,
the desolations he has brought on the earth.
9 He makes wars cease
to the ends of the earth.
He breaks the bow and shatters the spear;
he burns the shieldsd]">[d] with fire.
10 He says, “Be still, and know that I am God;
I will be exalted among the nations,
I will be exalted in the earth.”

11 The Lord Almighty is with us;
the God of Jacob is our fortress.

this holds me up. . be still, know that I am God
 
Maikl Jexocuha said:
I'm freaking out - afraid of sanity going out the window depending how long this is going on for.

Don't fuck with, China

This is bio-chemical warfare like we've never seen before. Not one single apology from China about the virus getting out of control and infecting the world. Not one apology.
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I always defended China but I am really pissed off with them too.

Huge blow for their "soft power".

I don't believe it's a chemical weapon - but can we please stop it with the wet markets already!?
 
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