Has the field of psychology failed men?

[Roses In The Vineyard]

One of the problems with disaffected young men is that they can easily embrace violence. That’s manageable in stable societies, but in unstable ones it’s not so. It seems to me that the break point comes when a significant proportion of people decide that death is no worse than their lot in life and are prepared to take the risk of it in order to try and better their lot. All it takes then is for some demagogue to focus it and give it spurious legitimacy politically and morally and you have major war, backed not just by the young men, but by a large proportion of the whole society.

I don’t see any truly wise global political leaders at the moment who can collectively lead the world away from such a possibility- I hope to god they emerge if circumstances do deteriorate socially and economically.

Unfortunately violence is a natural response to what young men are facing when traditional culture is almost entirely stripped out coupled to not being allowed to really participate in the human experience socially and economically while being left the bill to a party they've never attended so to speak. Another is the death of the traditional family unit and monogamous relationships leaving very little else for stability etc. This year might prove that we are already at this tipping point where social upheaval becomes reality sadly.

 

[Roses In The Vineyard]

"Frontier Technology Issues: Harnessing the economic dividends from demographic change" July 2023 article, link: https://www.un.org/development/desa...e-economic-dividends-from-demographic-change/

Men, mental health and ending the ‘man up’ mentality

Basically, social roles and economic trends are changing and getting more daunting and more complex, not less. Humans, especially young human males, are having the hardest time right now keeping up, adapting, and making sense of a world devoid of central meta-narratives to fit into. And meta-narratives aren't "over with", rather, there are too many meta-narratives coming and going to follow... idk just my thoughts based on what I'm able to gather from UN and other "official" data sources.

Simply put we're being deprived the resources and the opportunities that previous generations taken for granted resulting in an overall lower standard to living.

 

[Roses In The Vineyard]

 

[ThomasJ79]

We were all doomed, male and female since the emergence of sexual reproduction in the evolutionary tree.

 

[may]

Imagine if we stopped dividing the world into men and women and just addressed the psychological health of unique individuals as a whole. I think the binary is holding us back.

 

[Wyote]

Men and women face some uniquely different psychological difficulties so I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that.
Some of them are socially orchestrated, yes. But not all of them.
Men and women are biologically different and face different hormonal issues as well which drive psychological problems in different directions.

 

[aeon]

We must acknowledge the differences, but always keep in mind we have far more in common with each other.

That said, I want to echo what @Wyote said, because of the top-down influence of hormones on those shared aspects.

Of course, that’s all apart from the cultural fuckery.

Cheers,
Ian

 

[aeon]

If you ever want to know the power of said hormones, talk to a trans man on androgens. Their stories are eye-opening.

Cheers,
Ian

 

[Roses In The Vineyard]

Imagine if we stopped dividing the world into men and women and just addressed the psychological health of unique individuals as a whole. I think the binary is holding us back.

I agree but society is on the fast track of becoming a mouse utopia and many just don't care between the older generations that got theirs one one side and on the other ideologues that are happy to see men suffer.

 

[Wyote]

I agree

I agree inasmuch as there should be individualized care, but you can't ignore differences between sexes and just lump humans as all the same

 

[Asa]

If you ever want to know the power of said hormones, talk to a trans man on androgens. Their stories are eye-opening.

I'm not sure if you were around when this happened, but after I had sepsis, my hormones flatlined. I was on a low dose of testosterone for a little while (which all humans need), and my doctor took me off it after I explained my experiences taking it. I was on a low dose and I couldn't handle it. The only thing I liked about it was the confidence I felt for no reason whatsoever, but I constantly had to check myself to make sure I was actually doing a good job instead of feeling the effects of the T. (My productivity skyrocketed because I thought I was the bomb at everything.) I was much more irritable and lost my temper more easily.

 

[Wyote]

the confidence I felt for no reason whatsoever

No no, it's a social construct

 

[aeon]

I'm not sure if you were around when this happened, but after I had sepsis, my hormones flatlined.

I’m glad you didn’t.

*hugs* I had no idea you had sepsis.

Based on my own experience with it, I would not recommend it for anyone.

Aside from a dissolved femoral head, contracture, minor nerve damage, and a degree of dysautonomia, I came through it with no after effects. /s

Well Wishes,
Ian