INFJs Vs. ENTPs

...I think he just effectively defeated us.
 
If this is a physical fight, I call tag team with TDHT and alt ctrl del
 
INFJs vs. ENTPs huh. Well, it may seem like a fight from the outside when no one can tell if those sparks are a good thing, until the two groups just end up having all kinds of sex...

All joking aside, or, I guess some joking aside, I have wondered about the functionality of an all INFJ forum. So, I think there are probably always going to be enough particularly noisy INFJs for it to basically work, but even then, INFJs are mostly responders(which is not to say they won't often be a very large and necessary energy for many conversations in their own social settings). I think the trouble is, is that you do kind of need that "spark", and by "spark" I basically mean a sort of agreeable and intriguing conflict that makes interacting basically more rewarding, and also someone that is willing to sort of grab ahold of the INFJ, because I know that I fail epically as any semblance of an initiator. Can INFJ on INFJ light that expected NT on NF spark?

Can the grip that one INFJ uses to grab ahold of another INFJ be maintained with enough confidence amidst the overall reluctance to be the grabber and initiator on the part of both INFJs??? I don't know. Socionics(I don't recommend reading them) actually ranks same-type relations pretty high if the interests of the same types are divergent enough to maintain interest in eachother.
 
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Dragon said:
So you're saying we are boring an uncreative Hinsoog?
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No, it would appear that Hinsoog is assuming that everyone classified under the MBTI is an absolute and a carbon copy of the stereotype, with no room for type and characteristic overlap.

There are a number of variables and deviances to consider, and while classification is a neat way to categorize, there is no way that there are only 16 types of people in the world who can think and behave the same way.

Even looking at just the INFJ's here, we can see that, while we draw from a similar tendencies, we all have very unique approaches and thought patterns. Some of us are more abrasive, while others are rather approachable and kindly. Some of us are sarcastic; some of us try to be helpful and polite.

We're just a bouquet of variety.
 
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Dragon said:
So you're saying we are boring an uncreative Hinsoog?
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Oh no way! So you must be looking at how I wrote "spark". And what I mean by "spark" is actually a sort of functional conflict, one that doesn't necessarily tap into a more negative sort of stress, but is still a sort of flame that maybe look like disonance from certain perspectives that actually is sort of intriguing the interest of the other. I'm not saying that INFJs can't really create that, and maybe it shouldn't be necessary, but, I know that when I'm talking to my INTP friend, though we really relate strongly to eachother, the conversations always feel like there is some ground to be gained or covered, as though it is more exciting to explain things to eachother because of the slightly differing perspectives.

Don't get me wrong, I think that the way INFJs relate is terribly satisfying. In fact, even outside how engaging this forum is, I have my own evidence already with a member of this forum I've had very personal conversations with outside of the forum. But, can that flame provoke us to grab and then maintain the confidence of that grip even though both INFJs are reluctant to be initiators, and still desire more to be a responders? So, it seems INFJs love to be doted over, and love to be shown that they are really liked in some form that they can detect with confidence, and would they then be able to give that service to another INFJ in a way to hope to get it back?
 
Classic. Absolutely classic.
 

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Which would win in a fist fight? IF the INFJ doesn't win right off the bat, the ENTP would definitely win.
Which is a better leader? INFJs are better "leaders," ENTPs are better administrators/bosses/slave owners.
What problems are there with interactions between both? I think the biggest problem arises when a third party is introduced. The INFJ and ENTP can sync up pretty well when they want but outsiders have no idea what the fucks going on.
Other input/questions/rants/curses/monkey porn that you want to add in.
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Snowballing.
 
TheDaringHatTrick said:
No, it would appear that Hinsoog is assuming that everyone classified under the MBTI is an absolute and a carbon copy of the stereotype, with no room for type and characteristic overlap.

There are a number of variables and deviances to consider, and while classification is a neat way to categorize, there is no way that there are only 16 types of people in the world who can think and behave the same way.

Even looking at just the INFJ's here, we can see that, while we draw from a similar tendencies, we all have very unique approaches and thought patterns. Some of us are more abrasive, while others are rather approachable and kindly. Some of us are sarcastic; some of us try to be helpful and polite.
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I understand that the MBTI is very general at its core. I mean after all, any one of the functions, like Ne for example, is just sooo sooooo general. But that's the way people gravitate in relationships. I mean, David Keirsey, who wrote Please Understand Me and popular for his "intelligence types" writes about how he's seen evidence of just how FREQUENT SJ-SP mate pairings are. I'm getting pretty good at typewatching, and in my own personal evidence, the world is basically made out of SP-SJ pairs, and that's the data we have. There is an element of complimentary, but, there is also difference in perfect compatibility. Keisey admits that two healthy and well adjusted people of any type can have a successful relationship, but there are certainly strong trends with mounds of evidence of their success. NTs and NFs are supposed to be the other strong pair, but, it would seem that there is just less evidence of that in general.

So anyway, I understand that MBTI is general, but it is those general directions that make relationships more compatible. So that stress in the relationship is the sort of stress that is basically good, that conflict is in a way that does moer to intrigue and build attraction, and that problems are problems that the other type can stomach with ease.

So DaringHatTrick, I hope it is clear just how general I am being.
 
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....I still say that I'd kick ass
 
Ookami said:
Aww <3 Thank you :)
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You know it's all love between us, bro *peace*

Shai Gar said:
Oh yes, beat my arse with a silver diamond tipped cane. Beat it like Michael Jacksons heart doesn't.
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I thought SH had the silver diamond-tipped cane...all I have is this lame-ass whip and handcuffs
 
ZING :)

"You've been hit by, you've been struck by, your left ventricle"
 
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