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[John K]

@John K

It made me think of Thomas the Rhymer or True Thomas who fell asleep under the Hawthorn tree and woke up in “Elfland”.

http://myths.e2bn.org/mythsandlegends/origins530-thomas-the-rhymer-and-the-queen-of-elfland.html

That's a brilliant example !!

There's a lot of fantasy based on the same ideas as well - the Narnia stories for instance, and Lovecraft's horror tales.

 

[Sandie33]

This gentleman makes some strong points regarding the unconscious emotional drives that either motivate or deter us in life. What are some of your thoughts?

 

[John K]

I was thinking the very same thoughts about the Fae!
Gnomes, Elfs, etc.
I actually find the idea of someone slipping into another alternative reality to be feasible...especially with my own views leaning toward the brain as receiver of consciousness and not producer.
It can fit in with so many other ideas that it seems like as correct a conclusion as any other!
That and such stories seem to have been around since recorded humankind.

I think that some dream situations might give what feels like an experience of parallel worlds as well. I don't often remember any of my dreams at the moment, but I recalled the tail end of two a couple of nights ago. Nothing strange about that, except that after the second one I had a weird false memory that had nothing whatsoever to do with either of these dreams. It was of a world in which I carried on working long after I actually retired and was still in my old job. I'd been putting off retiring for years, but hadn't because I'd actually started to enjoy work once I could walk out on a decent pension anytime I wanted. There was nothing fantastical in the memory, it was as ordinary as the real world. This must have been based on a forgotten dream series because it felt like a habitual memory if you see what I mean, but I have no recollection of the actual dreams, it was like a memory of something real - for a while after I woke up it made my waking world feel a bit unreal.
Who knows, perhaps talking about alternative realities here triggered this - or maybe I really have carried on working in another universe and I'm just dreaming this one into existence lol .....

 

[jn56uytrx]

I had a weird false memory

This must have been based on a forgotten dream series because it felt like a habitual memory

it was like a memory of something real

This steps away a bit from the parallel world angle (maybe), but I had this sort of false memory experience a couple weeks ago.

I was talking with a client who was describing a swimming experience and I was nodding away because I knew and could feel what she was talking about and it was only after several moments that I realized I wasn't relating to swimming. I was relating to the feeling of flying in my dreams. I've had that before where, fully awake, I am thinking about my experience of flying, and it takes me a bit to remember that doesn't actually happen.

 

[John K]

This steps away a bit from the parallel world angle (maybe), but I had this sort of false memory experience a couple weeks ago.

I was talking with a client who was describing a swimming experience and I was nodding away because I knew and could feel what she was talking about and it was only after several moments that I realized I wasn't relating to swimming. I was relating to the feeling of flying in my dreams. I've had that before where, fully awake, I am thinking about my experience of flying, and it takes me a bit to remember that doesn't actually happen.

That's fascinating because I've had quite a few flying dreams too and it seems quite normal - just like you say, surprising that it isn't really possible, as you wake up, or recall the dream later. For me, there's often some effort involved in dream flying, as though it's only just possible in a few of them - I've come to realise that my closest waking experience in feels terms is the process of letting go in meditation.

 

[jn56uytrx]

For me, there's often some effort involved in dream flying, as though it's only just possible in a few of them - I've come to realise that my closest waking experience in feels terms is the process of letting go in meditation.

I know flying dreams are one of the most common. I've had them regularly since I was a kid. For me, there is no effort to it. It's like a breath. It's almost more like floating dreams for me. Just a mode of travel where I think myself up. I float a bit above everything else and a bit faster. I can feel it now.

Meditation feels SO much harder to me.

 

[Ifur]

Depends on who or what you follow or believe.
If we go into the Gnostic teachings of Jesus and the “Bible” we have some very different ideas and concepts about almost everything that is familiar to modern “Christianity”.
The ideas of Eden for example is an entirely different story but with similar characters like Jesus, being there, but playing a much different role.
And of course the trinity can be linked to many other religions and sects that came before early Christianity.
https://www.ucg.org/bible-study-too...arian-gods-influenced-adoption-of-the-trinity

Also people tend to forget or conveniently forget that “God” having knowledge, power, and creation over all things - also is the true ruler over any such silly concepts of “Hell” still used to keep followers in check.
God created it, has total knowledge and power over it...and yet, Lucifer/Satan (another creation of God) supposedly has dominion?
That Adam and Eve somehow surprised God with their disobedience is silly when said religions make God omniscient and omnipotent.
Of course...a parable is not reality/history...another easily forgotten “Christian" trait.
Though if it were not...the Gnostic version makes far more sense.

This I can answer better, as I am not Gothic or Gnostic, I am literally of Norse ancestry and direct descendent of many important figures like Erik the Red and Erik Bloodaxe.

The trinity involes the father, the son and the holy ghost. In latin this may be equivalent and is evidently so as there is little evidence of preference depending on language.

In norse, the term for the latin "deus" is "us" in gothic, this may have been "gods". In either case, the warfaring Norse had the æsir as the educational background in the language.

There are two things of especial fundamental importance, psycholgy and cosmology, combined with language this forms metaphysics.

The Gothic may have been the forest dwelling lunatics that preferred "one supreme psychology".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athanasian_Creed

Around the time of the Gothic and the Norse viking age, somone was wrong and died.

Or maybe not, because "einherjar" sort of means "one ruler" and how one is made to watch the banality.

Does it meam "the fanatic ideas of the masses", probably, I fold -- bless them to the never ending battlefields of no resolution -- the hall of choices, valhalla, let them fight their choices to the death.

Yeah, my kind of humour -- the level of detail in psychology that this concept has been explained is impressive.

Odin is the body, or the "apple" on the top of the spine, the cerbellum, human body, mand and woman, Odin and Frigg.

The throne is the snses, where the inner eye and visions of the futre is hiegher brain functions, corpus callosum and frontal pole. The throne is the senses, implying you are introverted. So visual motor and eyes, being both body and mind, and "those fucking bastards" and their ideas, one is made to watch them fight due to personality differences. That is, those with an idea and an axe to grind, those who do not like to see where this is going, and those that are made to watch. Einherjar in valhalla with all of their enemeies. Thus, senses are in the middle of the mind, your throne, eyes in the back, inner eye with future visions in the front, dreams behind the senses because it also deals with the reverse effect of body and visual motor. Someone would have had to explain this specifically what was wrong with what they were doing and acting like. Well the core of it that stuck around for centuries at least in the context of the philosophy and religion.

I'm both crying and laughing at the same time, but it is ture, this is what that whole mess means.

Lots of jokes on the side of religion today, and the Norse and their history.
So who is Thor? Well, he does things, and get food for example, unless he is a dick and tries to throw Odin of his throne, that is, the body and it's senses in order to understand the differnce, because that is when the senses starts looking the wrong way for the body and hell breaks loose.
So fundamentally speaking, there is a conflict between Odin as the body, and Thor as consciousness, lest he decide to ride the wrong way, depending on your perspective, you prefer one over the other. And one is almost guaranteed that one of them will try to best something or the other.

It's one of those things, so decided to write more on it.
Yes, so, perhaps Thor is your consciousness, perhps Odin is your body, or Frigg anf Sif. This however does not mean that for example Slaypnir, the senses or the horse, cannot be confused about whos whom and make a mess of things. Something is always the ghost, irregardless of how much you like that part of things from mutual agreement. From one perspective or another, there is no agreement here, nothings that works where everything is possible. This may be the ghost in western religion, and largely does not allow for visual thinkers and "forward" thinkers at the same time, barring going the wrong way.

Unfortunately, a book could have bee written, and i offer you this, and not more.

 

[Ifur]

All else being the same, avoided this thread a bit for not being porud og drinking and writing.
And this is another one of those days, not proud, but today it is not in the way of blackout pissed.
Has also been more than a week, but this is a bit of a sad state of affairs, needing to do this.

Depressant, "sant" means true in some languages, so if you need burrowed feelings to surface, drink rant and rave about it.
Or as the greek would say, if it is seen as a bad idea the day after, forget it ever happened.

Writing this here, as it may be diffiult to know if im drink and forum without cross referencing and checking.

I know I ranted and wrote a lot of dumb shit somewhere on this forum over the last week.

But the dumb part was not that @Skarekrow should be able to get a counceling position by calling them on their oats of office..

Bartender! check please, this thread makes me say wise things drunk way too often, and I am plastered. (sobre level is, ok so.... yeah, take these classes and we do an oral exam.. --- oral exam here, in that sense is the fun after, you dont get a pass by those oral exams -- I may however chase away any fucker in any subject from any bar!).
Edit: ineresting ramble, but learing from it, unusual things are more likely written and spoken drunk. Now, the above could have been written better, but blow job are also an oral exam, and quite frankly, most women may get a Ph.D this ways. Perhaps even Angela Merkel, as a Ph.D in hot gases, barely qualifying for chemistry, and not at an interesting level for physics, it might be a degree in what is known as a pussy queef -- the professional level of finishing an oral exam.

This now means that I can ask any professor in physics, philosophy, psychology and moral-sciences to resign or I subpoena and make it so. Yes, but it is the principle of the matter, and that I am now a dick, nobody has paid me, and I need a minimum to live. If welfare requires a professor of forensic psychiatry to leave or jail, this is perfectly fine with me, how many do you need?

(deleted a twitter firendly comment, as it is, set it all on fire, for what I care. But If I am involved, I may be able to navigate the shit out of the proposition and decide on the predication -- the hgihest of joke levels were not altered, dont fuzz.)

 

[Pin]

Bye!

 

[Skarekrow]

I think that some dream situations might give what feels like an experience of parallel worlds as well. I don't often remember any of my dreams at the moment, but I recalled the tail end of two a couple of nights ago. Nothing strange about that, except that after the second one I had a weird false memory that had nothing whatsoever to do with either of these dreams. It was of a world in which I carried on working long after I actually retired and was still in my old job. I'd been putting off retiring for years, but hadn't because I'd actually started to enjoy work once I could walk out on a decent pension anytime I wanted. There was nothing fantastical in the memory, it was as ordinary as the real world. This must have been based on a forgotten dream series because it felt like a habitual memory if you see what I mean, but I have no recollection of the actual dreams, it was like a memory of something real - for a while after I woke up it made my waking world feel a bit unreal.
Who knows, perhaps talking about alternative realities here triggered this - or maybe I really have carried on working in another universe and I'm just dreaming this one into existence lol .....

This steps away a bit from the parallel world angle (maybe), but I had this sort of false memory experience a couple weeks ago.

I was talking with a client who was describing a swimming experience and I was nodding away because I knew and could feel what she was talking about and it was only after several moments that I realized I wasn't relating to swimming. I was relating to the feeling of flying in my dreams. I've had that before where, fully awake, I am thinking about my experience of flying, and it takes me a bit to remember that doesn't actually happen.

That's fascinating because I've had quite a few flying dreams too and it seems quite normal - just like you say, surprising that it isn't really possible, as you wake up, or recall the dream later. For me, there's often some effort involved in dream flying, as though it's only just possible in a few of them - I've come to realise that my closest waking experience in feels terms is the process of letting go in meditation.

I know flying dreams are one of the most common. I've had them regularly since I was a kid. For me, there is no effort to it. It's like a breath. It's almost more like floating dreams for me. Just a mode of travel where I think myself up. I float a bit above everything else and a bit faster. I can feel it now.

Meditation feels SO much harder to me.

Wow!
I can also relate to all that you two are talking about.
The whole bit about remembering how to fly is especially interesting....I’ve had some lucid dreams where it always had the feeling of - well duh, you just go like this and you’re flying....lol.
It’s such a clear feeling of how to do it, it almost seems possible if I just jumped up and did it in our waking reality.
Right before I land on my face.
haha
That is why the induced OOBEs were not hard to navigate astrally - it was similar in the feeling, only this is like floating around this reality with slightly altered perception...you can see 360 degrees in all directions and then you have almost like a second person view of yourself as well all rolled up into one view...it’s kind of intense at first...and then to realize that you are seeing without your eyes (usually breaks my concentration) it’s pretty fantastical.
It’s a shame it’s not more easily accessible...wherever it is.
You get into the right type of trance and you get all those seemingly physical vibrations and other phenomena like paralysis - that’s where some folks get stuck...to self-induce that takes some forethought about what you will experience otherwise it’s too shocking to the brain to find oneself paralyzed as such.
But that is when you can “separate”...people get stuck on trying to physically move when you have to learn to “think” your way around.
It’s all very odd.

Have either of you had falling dreams or death dreams where you hit the ground or die in some way?
I have had several death dreams....but every falling dream I have ever had I have hit the ground and laid there dead, lol.
Weird.

Much love!

 

[Skarekrow]

This I can answer better, as I am not Gothic or Gnostic, I am literally of Norse ancestry and direct descendent of many important figures like Erik the Red and Erik Bloodaxe.

The trinity involes the father, the son and the holy ghost. In latin this may be equivalent and is evidently so as there is little evidence of preference depending on language.

In norse, the term for the latin "deus" is "us" in gothic, this may have been "gods". In either case, the warfaring Norse had the æsir as the educational background in the language.

There are two things of especial fundamental importance, psycholgy and cosmology, combined with language this forms metaphysics.

The Gothic may have been the forest dwelling lunatics that preferred "one supreme psychology".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athanasian_Creed

Around the time of the Gothic and the Norse viking age, somone was wrong and died.

Or maybe not, because "einherjar" sort of means "one ruler" and how one is made to watch the banality.

Does it meam "the fanatic ideas of the masses", probably, I fold -- bless them to the never ending battlefields of no resolution -- the hall of choices, valhalla, let them fight their choices to the death.

Yeah, my kind of humour -- the level of detail in psychology that this concept has been explained is impressive.

Odin is the body, or the "apple" on the top of the spine, the cerbellum, human body, mand and woman, Odin and Frigg.

The throne is the snses, where the inner eye and visions of the futre is hiegher brain functions, corpus callosum and frontal pole. The throne is the senses, implying you are introverted. So visual motor and eyes, being both body and mind, and "those fucking bastards" and their ideas, one is made to watch them fight due to personality differences. That is, those with an idea and an axe to grind, those who do not like to see where this is going, and those that are made to watch. Einherjar in valhalla with all of their enemeies. Thus, senses are in the middle of the mind, your throne, eyes in the back, inner eye with future visions in the front, dreams behind the senses because it also deals with the reverse effect of body and visual motor. Someone would have had to explain this specifically what was wrong with what they were doing and acting like. Well the core of it that stuck around for centuries at least in the context of the philosophy and religion.

I'm both crying and laughing at the same time, but it is ture, this is what that whole mess means.

Lots of jokes on the side of religion today, and the Norse and their history.
So who is Thor? Well, he does things, and get food for example, unless he is a dick and tries to throw Odin of his throne, that is, the body and it's senses in order to understand the differnce, because that is when the senses starts looking the wrong way for the body and hell breaks loose.
So fundamentally speaking, there is a conflict between Odin as the body, and Thor as consciousness, lest he decide to ride the wrong way, depending on your perspective, you prefer one over the other. And one is almost guaranteed that one of them will try to best something or the other.

It's one of those things, so decided to write more on it.
Yes, so, perhaps Thor is your consciousness, perhps Odin is your body, or Frigg anf Sif. This however does not mean that for example Slaypnir, the senses or the horse, cannot be confused about whos whom and make a mess of things. Something is always the ghost, irregardless of how much you like that part of things from mutual agreement. From one perspective or another, there is no agreement here, nothings that works where everything is possible. This may be the ghost in western religion, and largely does not allow for visual thinkers and "forward" thinkers at the same time, barring going the wrong way.

Unfortunately, a book could have bee written, and i offer you this, and not more.

Very interesting as another trinity story.

All else being the same, avoided this thread a bit for not being porud og drinking and writing.
And this is another one of those days, not proud, but today it is not in the way of blackout pissed.
Has also been more than a week, but this is a bit of a sad state of affairs, needing to do this.

Depressant, "sant" means true in some languages, so if you need burrowed feelings to surface, drink rant and rave about it.
Or as the greek would say, if it is seen as a bad idea the day after, forget it ever happened.

Writing this here, as it may be diffiult to know if im drink and forum without cross referencing and checking.

I know I ranted and wrote a lot of dumb shit somewhere on this forum over the last week.

But the dumb part was not that @Skarekrow should be able to get a counceling position by calling them on their oats of office..

Bartender! check please, this thread makes me say wise things drunk way too often, and I am plastered. (sobre level is, ok so.... yeah, take these classes and we do an oral exam.. --- oral exam here, in that sense is the fun after, you dont get a pass by those oral exams -- I may however chase away any fucker in any subject from any bar!).
Edit: ineresting ramble, but learing from it, unusual things are more likely written and spoken drunk. Now, the above could have been written better, but blow job are also an oral exam, and quite frankly, most women may get a Ph.D this ways. Perhaps even Angela Merkel, as a Ph.D in hot gases, barely qualifying for chemistry, and not at an interesting level for physics, it might be a degree in what is known as a pussy queef -- the professional level of finishing an oral exam.

This now means that I can ask any professor in physics, philosophy, psychology and moral-sciences to resign or I subpoena and make it so. Yes, but it is the principle of the matter, and that I am now a dick, nobody has paid me, and I need a minimum to live. If welfare requires a professor of forensic psychiatry to leave or jail, this is perfectly fine with me, how many do you need?

(deleted a twitter firendly comment, as it is, set it all on fire, for what I care. But If I am involved, I may be able to navigate the shit out of the proposition and decide on the predication -- the hgihest of joke levels were not altered, dont fuzz.)

What in the hell are you going off about here?
Please @Ifur can we keep the drunken crude ramblings to a minimum or take them elsewhere?
Thank you Sir.

 

[Skarekrow]

Bye!

Where are we going?

 

[Skarekrow]

Been on a social-media hiatus/sabbatical...still having some lethargy issues but whatever.


I hope everyone is doing well and is wonderful?!
Will be around more in the near future for a bit.
Also am working on catching up to all the messages that I haven’t been able to answer just yet!

Much love all!

 

[jn56uytrx]

Have either of you had falling dreams or death dreams where you hit the ground or die in some way?
I have had several death dreams....but every falling dream I have ever had I have hit the ground and laid there dead, lol.
Weird.

I don't recall having had a death dream. I have very vague recollection of maybe having falling dreams, but none of hitting the ground.

Been on a social-media hiatus/sabbatical...still having some lethargy issues but whatever.

You are missed. Most important that you take care of yourself first, though. Always!!

Best to you.

 

[Skarekrow]

I don't recall having had a death dream. I have very vague recollection of maybe having falling dreams, but none of hitting the ground.



You are missed. Most important that you take care of yourself first, though. Always!!

Best to you.

Good to see you!
Yeah, there was one I had I remember in particular where I fell and hit the ground and was staring up at the sky and then all these people came over and were staring at my dead body....lol.
It was very odd...I felt the impact but not the pain (as I was dead).

I’ve missed everyone here very much as well and hope to talk with everyone more soon!
Thanks for the kind words!

 

[John K]

You are missed. Most important that you take care of yourself first, though. Always!!

This! Take care of yourself Skare! I've been thinking of you and hoping you are still winning through my friend

Have either of you had falling dreams or death dreams where you hit the ground or die in some way?
I have had several death dreams....but every falling dream I have ever had I have hit the ground and laid there dead, lol.
Weird.

There's only one I can recall, from when I was about 6 years old. The world was being invaded by aliens in flying saucers. I went outside in my dressing gown and pyjamas to look and there was one in the sky coming right at me. I ran like hell but it shot me with a ray gun and I was killed. There was an incredibly wonderful feeling of peace, resignation, of letting go as I died - it didn't hurt in the least. The dream ended there. It was one of those archetypal dreams that recorded itself indelibly in my memory though I'd not have been able to grasp it properly as a child.

The only other dream that comes close is this one that I quoted to you before - I think that falling into the dream underworld is a sort of metaphor for a death-like journey, but I didn't experience myself as dead in the dream
Nightspore

 

[Skarekrow]

This! Take care of yourself Skare! I've been thinking of you and hoping you are still winning through my friend




There's only one I can recall, from when I was about 6 years old. The world was being invaded by aliens in flying saucers. I went outside in my dressing gown and pyjamas to look and there was one in the sky coming right at me. I ran like hell but it shot me with a ray gun and I was killed. There was an incredibly wonderful feeling of peace, resignation, of letting go as I died - it didn't hurt in the least. The dream ended there. It was one of those archetypal dreams that recorded itself indelibly in my memory though I'd not have been able to grasp it properly as a child.

The only other dream that comes close is this one that I quoted to you before - I think that falling into the dream underworld is a sort of metaphor for a death-like journey, but I didn't experience myself as dead in the dream
Nightspore

Yes!!!
I remember that one....that was a good one!
(I got shot in the head in a dream once and could feel the impact like a sledge hammer going through my head....again no pain, but the impact was very real and I laid there for a moment dead before it ended)

Thanks John...I have been doing my best to take care!
Just had really been feeling like separating myself from social media (for the most part) and focusing more on finding the quiet and peace that we/I so easily neglect.
That and my sleep patterns are all over the place...haha...3-4 hours at night...2 hours here, 2 hours there...then meditating (without falling asleep lol) too.
I have to say though...lately, my pain levels have been just as bad as ever in the sense of intensity...but it doesn’t set off the secondary triggers that get built into the brain after something becomes a chronic condition....which is pretty cool.
I feel like I have been able to at least overcome some small bit of negative programming that had existed in my operating system with new code that allows me to look at the pain as purely sensation - at least the majority of the time.
There are still very challenging days and moments...but I no longer get lost in those moments like I once did and seem to understand the impermanence on more of an unconscious level that didn’t exist before all the meditation, education, contemplation, and work I’ve put in.
It’s been a continuous shifting of my “self” and my perceptions of things - quite possibly part of why I’m so freaking tired lol, though that’s probably the AS.
It’s kind of shitty to wake up in the middle of the night with a fever, totally drenched...but whatever...rather that than more pain!
On a positive note my appetite is doing much much better!
It’s been an uphill battle since my hospital stay a year ago and those two surgeries I had for pancreatitis and gallstones...my digestion definitely was NOT right for some time and neither was my appetite.
Finally though, it seems back to the way it’s supposed to be...a little over a year...I guess that isn’t unheard of....some folks have messed up digestion for the rest of their lives after GB surgery...so many variables.

Anyhow...you and everyone is far beyond caught up now.
Wish it was more interesting!
lol

Much love and hope to talk more soon!

 

[Skarekrow]

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[Skarekrow]

Now THIS is very curious!
As an INFJ and also having been a very HSP child - not to mention the strange phenomena that kept occurring around me as a child - I can relate to what might have been considered behavior problems.
Things like...throwing my math book in the trash in the 3rd grade and claiming to have lost it (lmao)...feelings of social inadequacy or of social ostracizing, real of perceived, etc.
There was definitely depression, anxiety, restlessness, worry, solitariness, difficulty making friends, truant behavior, as well as lying to parents and teachers.
There are studies showing links between introversion and those who are more intuitive also being more likely to have chronic pain of some sort later on in life.
According to these studies - I never stood a chance hahaha.
I was a good kid overall, but it was a struggle sometimes for me to exist in this world...I think you all on this particular forum probably can relate.
Enjoy!

Childhood Bad Behavior Linked to Adult Chronic Pain

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Researchers have found a significant link between childhood behavioral problems and chronic pain in adulthood.
Dr. Dong Pang of Aberdeen University, UK, and colleagues explain that chronic widespread pain affects about 12 percent of adults and can cause disability.

It has previously been linked to major events in childhood such as hospitalization after a road accident and separation from mothers.

The team used a group of 19,478 participants who were born in a single week in 1958, and followed them through childhood and adulthood.
Childhood behavior was recorded by parents and teachers at ages 7, 11, and 16, based on aspects such as restlessness, worrying, solitariness, ability to make friends, obedience, stealing, sucking thumbs and biting nails, lying, bullying, or displaying truant behavior.

Pain in adulthood was measured at 45 years.

Children whose teachers reported “severe persistent behavior problems” at all ages had more than double the risk of chronic widespread pain by the age of 45 compared with children without behavior problems at all ages.

A weaker link also existed for parent-reported behavior, possibly because teachers are more experienced and can be more objective, the researchers speculate.

In the journal Rheumatology, the authors conclude, “Maladjusted (social) behavior is associated with increased long-term chronic widespread pain beyond childhood and adolescence.”

Dr. Pang said, “Aspects of childhood behavior are strongly related to children reporting chronic widespread pain. However, until now, it was unknown whether maladjusted behavior in children was a long-term marker for chronic widespread pain in adulthood. Our study shows that it is.”

The association could not be explained by social class, says Dr. Pang, and was not thought to be due to the known link between psychological distress in adults and chronic widespread pain.

He says that the underlying biological mechanism is not known, but suggested it may be “a long-term neuroendocrine dysfunction beginning in early life,” involving the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis which controls reactions to stress.

This dysfunction, possibly triggered by early trauma, could underlie both the childhood behavior and the adult chronic widespread pain, he believes. “Further research at molecular and genetic levels is needed to clarify this theory,” he states.

Psychological distress was measured at the age of 42, and this also showed a link with childhood behavioral problems.
Long-term depression and anxiety, suicidal behavior, substance abuse and treatment for psychiatric illness were more common among those deemed to have early behavior problems.

Co-researcher Professor Gary Macfarlane added, “This study helps us to understand the factors in childhood that can lead someone to get on a trajectory of ill health, including chronic pain. The disruption to the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal (stress-response) axis is one biological marker of the effect of such experiences and this could help to identify persons at higher risk of chronic pain. Interventions would be lifestyle-focused and would include identification and treatment of behavioral and emotional factors, but would also address lifestyle factors such as increased physical activity."

“We plan to undertake some studies in children to understand what range of factors cause a disturbance to the stress-response axis; such work can then inform what intervention studies may be appropriate.”

The study of lifetime influences on chronic pain is still in its infancy, the team concludes.
Future studies are required to confirm potential links between early life events and pain across the life course.

Other recent studies confirm that the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis is associated with at least some aspects of childhood behavior.
Tests on a group of 1,768 10- to 12-yea-olds showed that girls with “externalizing” behavior problems (such as aggression, delinquency, and hyperactivity) had significantly higher cortisol levels, representing greater activity in the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis.

But this link was not seen in boys, or for “internalizing” behavior problems (such as anxiety and depression).

A further study suggests that abnormalities in the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis may indicate a vulnerability to chronic pain.
Current pain and psychosocial profiles were measured in a large group of adults.

Of these, 267 were deemed to be at future risk of pain based on their psychosocial profile, and their hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis function was tested.

Fifteen months later, 12 percent of the entire group had developed chronic widespread pain.
They were significantly more likely to have dysfunction of the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis, represented by morning and evening cortisol levels.

“Dysfunction of the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis helps to distinguish those who will and will not develop new-onset chronic widespread pain,” say the researchers.

References

Pang, D. et al. Influence of childhood behaviour on the reporting of chronic widespread pain in adulthood: results from the 1958 British Birth Cohort Study. Rheumatology, published online March 10, 2010.

Marsman, R. et al. HPA-axis activity and externalizing behavior problems in early adolescents from the general population: the role of comorbidity and gender The TRAILS study. Psychoneuroendocrinology, Vol. 33, July 2008, pp. 789-98.

McBeth, J. et al. Moderation of psychosocial risk factors through dysfunction of the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal stress axis in the onset of chronic widespread musculoskeletal pain: findings of a population-based prospective cohort study. Arthritis and Rheumatism, Vol. 56, January 2007, pp. 360-71.

 

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Pretty fantastical!
Enjoy!!

New Evidence for Life After Death​

Most of us are struggling to survive on earth and don’t have time to think about life after death.
As it happens, there is much information about this subject, and some progress in the field is notable.

Thanks to new technologies, what may lie behind the veil of bodily death is being gradually scoped out.

There are four types of experience fairly recently noted that seem to shed light on the great mystery: near-death experiences (NDEs), deathbed visions, terminal lucidity, and group near-death experiences.

For a review of the whole range of afterlife evidence, see:
Experiencing the Next World Now on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0743471059/?tag=infjs-20

The most widely known are NDEs, perhaps the most interesting.
In cases of near-death caused by cardiac arrest, blood is immediately cut off from the brain, and there ought not to be any consciousness, any experience at all, according to the mainstream view.

But not only do people still have experiences, they have the most vivid, super-real, and transformative experiences—which should be impossible, if mainstream science is right.

In death-bed visions, people about to die see apparitions of dead people; their mood is exalted.
They die convinced by their vision that there is a world beyond.

Terminal lucidity refers to people who suffer from Alzheimer’s, schizophrenia, or other brain disease, but who, days or hours before death, suddenly recover their mental faculties and recognize their loved ones just before passing away.

This phenomenon is a real challenge--how to explain it?
It looks as if the person, in leaving the sick brain, retrieves her mental faculties before passing into the next world.

The retrieved mental faculties may be the result of the mind breaking loose from its damaged brain.
I’m waiting to hear another explanation.

Finally, the fourth new phenomenon, and one that seems especially rare: in this case, individuals with the dying person somehow mentally join him or her in the preliminary journey to the next world.

Scott M. Taylor, Ed. D, President and Executive Director of the Monroe Institute, was kind enough to provide a written account of the near-death experience he shared with someone he loved.

Before I quote Scott’s description, there is the sad background for this remarkable experience.
Mary Fran and her boy Nolan were both killed in a car crash, Mary Fran instantly and Nolan several days later in a hospital, surrounded by two anxious families, along with Scott.

There came a moment when the boy died, causing the hearts of all to sink—except Scott.

At the moment of Nolan’s passing, Scott had an experience that is rarely reported, although Raymond Moody has written a book about the phenomenon called Glimpses of Eternity.

How many times in the history of the world have people been forced to watch those they loved die?
Countless, no doubt—but how often do you hear stories of anyone who claimed to join the dying person making the transition?

Not very often, to be sure.
But it’s being reported more frequently today.

Here is how Scott Taylor describes it: “As Nolan’s heartbeat patterns flattened and the monitor beside his bed sounded the constant, unwavering tone of organ failure, every member of his extended family wept…except for me.

“As he left his physical body for the last time, Mary Fran crossed the divide between the nonphysical world and the physical and scooped Nolan out of his body. Their reunion embrace was exquisite. Then, to my surprise, Mary Fran and Nolan turned and included me in their embrace. Together, the three of us went to the light."

“I know of no English words for the combination of joy, ecstasy, love, and requited longing that burned within me. It carried me to a dimension I never knew existed. In that moment, there was no pain of loss, only unity, rapture and reunion.”

Now, as it seems, the greater mental world we inhabit—not in physical space or time—is present to us and pervades physical reality.
We are, it seems, psychophysical amphibians, separate in space but united in mind and spirit.

The great oneness of mind is mostly hidden below the threshold of our everyday awareness.

The experience that Scott describes fits the amphibian image.
He describes his experience unfolding in the ‘next’ world even while at the same time being fully aware of himself with his co-mourners standing next to him in the hospital.

Scott was aware of the incongruity of his feeling expansive and ecstatic at the very moment that Nolan died, so he puts his face in his hands and tries to conceal the fact that he is bursting with joy.

As Scott writes in a remarkable passage: “I was fully conscious, fully present in the hospital room with the grieving gathering. Yet simultaneously I was lifted to a place beyond description. I experienced bi-location: two fully conscious vantage points, one on the window sill next to Willy, and a second, somewhere in another dimension embraced by Mary Fran and Nolan as she guided her son farther into the Light.”

The image that emerges tells us that by virtue of our minds we are connected with a greater mind and greater worlds.
But to know this we sometimes are forced to venture into the dangerous waters of love and death.