President Donald Trump

[Misty]

Yes, I must admit, the ENTP in me balked at that sentence too. Sorry Misty. You're religious *and* you have a personal relationship with your God.

Now EH, you on the other hand, she apologized for treating you with less respect than she thought you deserved. Take the apology

LOLOL... I just explained it, my fine Lady Jolanda... and jinx!!

 

[Misty]

Yes my eyes suck. They see the truth and often the truth is not pretty.
Kind of like nature, beautiful but deadly.

Meh, no one sees between the Maybelline quite like an INFJ... Those soul seeing eyes, remember? WE see the ugly like no other, and yet, we also see the good too. The glass is half full Eh, remember this.

 

[Eventhorizon]

I know it makes no sense to you. That's the whole point. Being "religious" and having faith and a personal relationship with God are two wholly different beasts. Yes they can and do go hand in hand, but are not exclusive. Often times "religious" people, I find, are doing things for show. Aka: They espouse God in public, in the church and in their works, yet never talk to him when alone. Never lean on him for advice and direction. Never give over power of important areas of their day to day lives to Him.. Do not seek forgiveness. Do not pray. Do not put their trust, hope, and faith in Him. Get the idea? Aka, the pharisee and the tax collector. Google it.

I'm sorry I don't. I think it's fair to label you as religious. You dont... and we are yet again at a disagreement..

 

[Eventhorizon]

Meh, no one sees between the Maybelline quite like an INFJ... Those soul seeing eyes, remember? WE see the ugly like no other, and yet, we also see the good too. The glass is half full Eh, remember this.

A half full glass is also half empty. A glass of something not used...useless and if you do use it you have an empty glass.

 

[Lady Jolanda]

Who cares. The question is, where is the tap?

 

[Misty]

Zzzzzz... done.

 

[Milktoast Bandit]

I'm sorry I don't. I think it's fair to label you as religious. You dont... and we are yet again at a disagreement..

There is a difference between religion-ism and spirituality. One can be religious and not spiritual just as one can be spiritual and not religious. One is following a set of rules and serves the purpose of fitting in among other things. It is more external. The other is about healing, growth and living to your fullest potential as a human being and is an internal process.

 

[Milktoast Bandit]

Yep. I am actually Christian, so by rule I am "supposed" to be on team Trump.

There are far more reason why a "Christian" should not have voted for Trump than for him.

 

[Misty]

There are far more reason why a "Christian" should not have voted for Trump than for him.

Agreed

 

[Misty]

There is a difference between religion-ism and spirituality. One can be religious and not spiritual just as one can be spiritual and not religious. One is following a set of rules and serves the purpose of fitting in among other things. It is more external. The other is about healing, growth and living to your fullest potential as a human being and is an internal process.

Yes... this.

 

[Skarekrow]

You've never been in a guys locker room. I don't think. Regardless of what anyone else has told you that type of talk is the norm especially for younger guys.

Speak for yourself perv

 

[Eventhorizon]

There is a difference between religion-ism and spirituality. One can be religious and not spiritual just as one can be spiritual and not religious. One is following a set of rules and serves the purpose of fitting in among other things. It is more external. The other is about healing, growth and living to your fullest potential as a human being and is an internal process.

Yes but that is not what we are talking about here. Here we are talking about a god whose idea was constructed by humans. This is religious, not spiritual.

 

[acd]

I know it makes no sense to you. That's the whole point. Being "religious" and having faith and a personal relationship with God are two wholly different beasts. Yes they can and do go hand in hand, but are not exclusive. Often times "religious" people, I find, are doing things for show. Aka: They espouse God in public, in the church and in their works, yet never talk to him when alone. Never lean on him for advice and direction. Never give over power of important areas of their day to day lives to Him.. Do not seek forgiveness. Do not pray. Do not put their trust, hope, and faith in Him. Get the idea? Aka, the pharisee and the tax collector. Google it.

I get what you are saying. Pharisees are religious, the disciples were spiritual. Be like a disciple. The Pharisees wanted to kill Jesus. They didn't know him.

 

[Skarekrow]

As for your constant posting of Trump’s stock-market gains...it’s all BS.
He is lying when he says they are the greatest ever.
Lying.
And you keep reposting the lies.
Because like the others on this thread have pointed out, you don’t listen to reason or facts if it doesn’t fit in your box.
So instead of having an open mind you double down on remaining ignorant and then insult those who call you out on it.
Uber Derp EH.

Trump Said the Dow Hit the Most Record Highs Under Him.
Then This Economist Schooled Trump
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"Ultimately, Clinton had far and away the best stock market results of the four most recent two-term presidents, followed by Obama, then Reagan, and, trailing far behind with negative gains, George W. Bush, whose presidency ended at the beginning of the Great Recession.”
http://fortune.com/2017/12/19/justin-wolfers-donald-trump-stock-market-returns/?iid=sr-link7

 

[Reason]

Look I am clearly stating I understand and that this is exactly what I do. For some reason you can't accept this and are finding ways to say the same thing the same way and expecting a different response.

What you are really saying is that I am not changing my mind therefore I have not heard the argument or "new" information which is ridiculous.

Well it's just damned convenient that all of the information you like is real, and anything you don't immediately have an answer to is "false". I've been in a real political discussion with someone of an opposite viewpoint, if both conversation partners are honest and fair then by the end everyone walks away with at least some intellectual falsehoods debunked and at least some opinions changed, however slightly.

With you nothing changes, at all, on any front. You explain why something is wrong, and sometimes the other person moves their position and then they explain to you why you're wrong and their evidence doesn't count because it's all fake according to you. So of course there is an inherent frustration emanating from the people who are talking to you, because you're not fairly participating.

 

[Eventhorizon]

As for your constant posting of Trump’s stock-market gains...it’s all BS.
He is lying when he says they are the greatest ever.
Lying.
And you keep reposting the lies.
Because like the others on this thread have pointed out, you don’t listen to reason or facts if it doesn’t fit in your box.
So instead of having an open mind you double down on remaining ignorant and then insult those who call you out on it.
Uber Derp EH.

"Ultimately, Clinton had far and away the best stock market results of the four most recent two-term presidents, followed by Obama, then Reagan, and, trailing far behind with negative gains, George W. Bush, whose presidency ended at the beginning of the Great Recession.”
http://fortune.com/2017/12/19/justin-wolfers-donald-trump-stock-market-returns/?iid=sr-link7

I have not posted a single lie. Look at the DOW.
I'm going to call you Derp from now on.

 

[Pin]

Yes but that is not what we are talking about here. Here we are talking about a god whose idea was constructed by humans. This is religious, not spiritual.

I've been looking through this thread and you hardly answer to any of the legitimate criticisms of President Trump.

Often times, you either ignore what people say or barely answer to their criticism and follow it up with more pro-Trump rhetoric.

Now, I'm not calling you a troll but I would like you to answer to this behavior.

Are you trolling us or not?

Do you genuinely support Donald Trump's actions on the campaign trail and as President of the United States?

If so, why do you genuinely support Donald Trump's actions on the campaign trail and as President of the United States in the face of all of the damning reasons not to?

 

[Eventhorizon]

Well it's just damned convenient that all of the information you like is real, and anything you don't immediately have an answer to is "false". I've been in a real political discussion with someone of an opposite viewpoint, if both conversation partners are honest and fair then by the end everyone walks away with at least some intellectual falsehoods debunked and at least some opinions changed, however slightly.

With you nothing changes, at all, on any front. You explain why something is wrong, and sometimes the other person moves their position and then they explain to you why you're wrong and their evidence doesn't count because it's all fake according to you. So of course there is an inherent frustration emanating from the people who are talking to you, because you're not fairly participating.

That's just not true. I dont label anything I don't like as false. Where do you get that idea?

 

[Skarekrow]

I have not posted a single lie. Look at the DOW.
I'm going to call you Derp from now on.

Read the report and the facts brainiac.
Now you sound really lame.
Call me what you want Capt. Derp.
Lies

 

[Eventhorizon]

I've been looking through this thread and you hardly answer to any of the legitimate criticisms of President Trump.

Often times, you either ignore what people say or barely answer to their criticism and follow it up with more anti-Trump rhetoric.

Now, I'm not calling you a troll but I would like you to answer to this behavior.

Are you trolling us or not?

Do you genuinely support Donald Trump's actions on the campaign trail and as President of the United States?

If so, why do you genuinely support Donald Trump's actions on the campaign trail and as President of the United States?

No I am not trolling.
I supported.some not all of his actions on the campaign trail all the while asking why we only had two crap choices for President. Oh we had three sorry but Hillary put an end to Sanders real quick didn't she?
I supported Trump because he recognized the value in putting America first.